Anonymous wrote:But anyone saying the GDA going away and making ECNL the only game in town for the top players will be better for the most elite of our players is completely ignorant of how far behind we are in the Men’s game and how quickly we been caught and will be surpassed in the woman’s game.

This is a very important point. There's a reason GDA was established and it was to more tightly control the training program, format, scouting, etc. Those who bemoan that the rest of the world is catching up in the GNT younger age groups should be all in on GDA, not advocating its demise, considering the current GNTs are predominantly the result of 10 years of ECNL grooming.

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Anonymous wrote:Real development doesnt come via the league. The league is there to test the development and ability of players to compete at the next level.

Winner Winner! Not sure why this so hard for so many to comprehend.

God, you folks are stupid. DA and ECNL teams are not just leagues, they are programs. It includes teaching (team practice), homework (individual training), and tests (games). Now, I am not saying that these are solving world hunger, but I am saying that for someone to say it isn't developing better players is simply dumb.

Overall, ECNL and DA have the best coaches and best players. Are there some good coaches not in DA or ECNL, yes of course. Are there some good players not in DA or ECNL, yes of course. But to say it isn't developing players is crap.

As far as pros and international players, who cares? Very few to none will that ever be relevant to. The next level for most of the DA and ECNL players is college, not the pros or the NT. And yes it does test them for that, and yes it does expose them to college coaches better than other programs and yes it does develop them better than other programs.

+1. Great post.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Real development doesnt come via the league. The league is there to test the development and ability of players to compete at the next level.

Winner Winner! Not sure why this so hard for so many to comprehend.

God, you folks are stupid. DA and ECNL teams are not just leagues, they are programs. It includes teaching (team practice), homework (individual training), and tests (games). Now, I am not saying that these are solving world hunger, but I am saying that for someone to say it isn't developing better players is simply dumb.

Overall, ECNL and DA have the best coaches and best players. Are there some good coaches not in DA or ECNL, yes of course. Are there some good players not in DA or ECNL, yes of course. But to say it isn't developing players is crap.

As far as pros and international players, who cares? Very few to none will that ever be relevant to. The next level for most of the DA and ECNL players is college, not the pros or the NT. And yes it does test them for that, and yes it does expose them to college coaches better than other programs and yes it does develop them better than other programs.

"God, you folks are stupid"

I pray the good lord finds it in his heart to help you.

On another note

1. The DA and ECNL are leagues. Debate that with yourself until you are blue in the face. While your at it, ask the lord for forgiveness.

2. The leagues are made up of clubs. The clubs are the development centers. Understand?

3. The quality of the club is based on the quality of the learning enviorment, Understand?

4. The quality of coach and club doesnt magically upgrade or downgrade because of league affiliation. Understand?

5. The program taught is only as good as the execution and competency of the people executing, Understand?

Have mercy on your soul.

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Anonymous wrote:Real development doesnt come via the league. The league is there to test the development and ability of players to compete at the next level.

Winner Winner! Not sure why this so hard for so many to comprehend.

God, you folks are stupid. DA and ECNL teams are not just leagues, they are programs. It includes teaching (team practice), homework (individual training), and tests (games). Now, I am not saying that these are solving world hunger, but I am saying that for someone to say it isn't developing better players is simply dumb.

Overall, ECNL and DA have the best coaches and best players. Are there some good coaches not in DA or ECNL, yes of course. Are there some good players not in DA or ECNL, yes of course. But to say it isn't developing players is crap.

As far as pros and international players, who cares? Very few to none will that ever be relevant to. The next level for most of the DA and ECNL players is college, not the pros or the NT. And yes it does test them for that, and yes it does expose them to college coaches better than other programs and yes it does develop them better than other programs.

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Anonymous wrote:So I’m over emotional yet you go on a 30 point all caps rant?

My caps are not meant as yelling. It me being lazy while typing.

Another emotional response.

The new ECNL all in announcements are going to send you over the edge

So ECNL guy argues that ECNL is responsible for a high majority of WNT and college players on past decade this showing its dominance over DA. Well no poop Sherlock. GDA has only been around for less than two years. So is WAGS a better platform than both ECNL and GDA since WAGS is responsible for “developing” more World Cup champions and college players?

Your argument is flat out stupid. Soccer in this country including US Soccer is so far behind the rest of the world in developing elite players. The men’s side has been obvious for decades. The women’s side will be obvious in the near future as the rest of the world isn’t sleeping on the women’s game any more.

The GDA solves only one of many issues of soccer in this country - getting the training and game balance and scheduling right. ECNL has all the problems every other league has, including DA, but also gets the structure wrong (playing overloaded seasons with only 6 true months of attuning. Then our players go to college, which is a great end game for 99.9% of players but will never compete with the rest of the world as national teams that plays 10 months of the year during crucial development ages 17-23.

So the DA is the best we have for the most elite of our players not because of the patch or the name or anything else but only because it at least gets the amount of training vs games vs calendar right. It won’t matter for almost every single player that plays youth soccer but for the most elite we need MUCH better than ECNL and, yes, better than DA.

But anyone saying the GDA going away and making ECNL the only game in town for the top players will be better for the most elite of our players is completely ignorant of how far behind we are in the Men’s game and how quickly we been caught and will be surpassed in the woman’s game.

An Internet miracle.

Two people who came to an agreement through a forum.

My sincere best to your kid wherever she plays.

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Anonymous wrote:So I’m over emotional yet you go on a 30 point all caps rant?

My caps are not meant as yelling. It me being lazy while typing.

Another emotional response.

The new ECNL all in announcements are going to send you over the edge

My kid isn’t going to the national team. Nothing ECNL does will send me over the edge. That you even think it matters says that you are overly invested in the league.

Good luck to your kid, she’ll get a college spot because of her work not the patch that you wish to either defend or attack.

I couldn't agree with you more. See, we agree ! it's all BS.

The ECNL is just a league
The DA is just a league

Despite what people are saying, one is not better than the other for college placement. High school and college recruiting via the club can go hand and hand. It doesnt have to be one or the other. That has been my point all along.

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Anonymous wrote:So I’m over emotional yet you go on a 30 point all caps rant?

My caps are not meant as yelling. It me being lazy while typing.

Another emotional response.

The new ECNL all in announcements are going to send you over the edge

My kid isn’t going to the national team. Nothing ECNL does will send me over the edge. That you even think it matters says that you are overly invested in the league.

Good luck to your kid, she’ll get a college spot because of her work not the patch that you wish to either defend or attack.

Anonymous wrote:So I’m over emotional yet you go on a 30 point all caps rant?

My caps are not meant as yelling. It me being lazy while typing.

Another emotional response.

The new ECNL all in announcements are going to send you over the edge

So I’m over emotional yet you go on a 30 point all caps rant?

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Anonymous wrote:You wrote all that for nothing.

#1. 2 percent of all players in the US will play D1. That is elite. That is fact. That is not brainwashed

#2. The DA is not saving US Soccer. Neither is your kid

#3. Write USSF and let them know your plan. We operate in real life scenarios.

#4. Its USSF job to find the elite of the elite and properly develop them. That's not my responsibility.

So yes, D1 soccer is elite. However, national teams are for the elite of the elite. See the difference.

Kind of like football. D1 football is elite. However, the NFL is the elite of the elite.

Nobody said it was your responsibility to develop the elite of the elite. Your kid isn’t elite and neither is mine. But the tired excuse of having a system claim to be developing “elite” players is a farce. Our system is developing amateur players not elite. It is catering to both of our average daughters regardless of the patch on their arm. They are average.

And you are wrong, it isn’t USSF’s responsibility to develop the elite of the elite. It is their job to identify them. You really think that 2 weeks of National team camp a year is development? The clubs bare the responsibility for this development because they have the kids 95% of the time. But I’m sure that a BRYC, Loudoun, FCV can match the youth development of a European Pro academy during the same ages.

I am not wrong. You are a hyper emotional human who failed to realize that we are saying the same thing for the most part..

#1. IT SHOULD BE USSF JOB TO IDENTIFY AND DEVELOP FUTURE NATIONAL TEAM MEMBERS. STARTING AT A EARLY AGE.

#2. IT SHOULD BE DONE IN REAL ACADEMIES. NOT A LEAGUE CALLING ITSELF AN ACADEMY WHEN IT FACT ITS JUST A LEAGUE.

#3. USSF SHOULD PAY FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PLAYERS THAT WAY WE DONT LOSE OUT ON PLAYERS WHOSE PARENTS ARE NOT FINANCIAL IN A POSITIONT TO PAY TO PLAY.

#4. TWO WEEKS CAMPS ARE NOT ACADEMIES. WE AGREE.

#5. WE BOTH AGREE, I THINK, THAT THE CURRENT SITUATION LACKS VISION AND CREATIVITY.

USSF IS AWFUL.

Anonymous wrote:You wrote all that for nothing.

#1. 2 percent of all players in the US will play D1. That is elite. That is fact. That is not brainwashed

#2. The DA is not saving US Soccer. Neither is your kid

#3. Write USSF and let them know your plan. We operate in real life scenarios.

#4. Its USSF job to find the elite of the elite and properly develop them. That's not my responsibility.

So yes, D1 soccer is elite. However, national teams are for the elite of the elite. See the difference.

Kind of like football. D1 football is elite. However, the NFL is the elite of the elite.

Nobody said it was your responsibility to develop the elite of the elite. Your kid isn’t elite and neither is mine. But the tired excuse of having a system claim to be developing “elite” players is a farce. Our system is developing amateur players not elite. It is catering to both of our average daughters regardless of the patch on their arm. They are average.

And you are wrong, it isn’t USSF’s responsibility to develop the elite of the elite. It is their job to identify them. You really think that 2 weeks of National team camp a year is development? The clubs bare the responsibility for this development because they have the kids 95% of the time. But I’m sure that a BRYC, Loudoun, FCV can match the youth development of a European Pro academy during the same ages.

Anonymous wrote:Follow the money. That’s why we parents put college soccer over turning pro.

You are under the impression that players have a choice.

The odds of playing D1: 2 percent

The odds of going pro for women soccer:
0026%

Follow the money. That’s why we parents put college soccer over turning pro.

You wrote all that for nothing.

#1. 2 percent of all players in the US will play D1. That is elite. That is fact. That is not brainwashed

#2. The DA is not saving US Soccer. Neither is your kid

#3. Write USSF and let them know your plan. We operate in real life scenarios.

#4. Its USSF job to find the elite of the elite and properly develop them. That's not my responsibility.

So yes, D1 soccer is elite. However, national teams are for the elite of the elite. See the difference.

Kind of like football. D1 football is elite. However, the NFL is the elite of the elite.