Anonymous wrote:Bethenny looks so haggard. Her face looks terrible! OTOH Jules looks a little bit healthier! Yeah! And no part of me is shocked Dorinda does coke. Like zero. I think everyone got quite because they prob have all done a few lines at a party once or twice in their lifetime and no one wants to go down that road.

Totally agree with the bolded.... that's why for them to bring it up then shut it down.... it makes me think she must have a HABIT. It would explain her badly collapsed/deviated septum.

So on the reunion, Bethenny calls her boyfriends daughter who confirms her parents were separated for years before Bethenny and him began to date.

If the family confirms this who cares what internet trolls/crazy Aviva/Lie-ann make up about them?

I've never been divorced but I feel for people who are separated, have moved on and are dating... especially when both parties have moved on... it's not like Bethenny's ex hasn't been actively dating for a few years, as well. Legally- pretty much you are either married OR single... so if you are separated you are in no-mans-land... some very narrow minded people will always see you as a cheater, even when they are not involved in your relation and don't even know you.

That level of judging is creepy- like, sorry you've been cheated on, but this isn't what that is.

Bethenny looks so haggard. Her face looks terrible! OTOH Jules looks a little bit healthier! Yeah! And no part of me is shocked Dorinda does coke. Like zero. I think everyone got quite because they prob have all done a few lines at a party once or twice in their lifetime and no one wants to go down that road.

Why do I think Sonja is now the most grounded of all of them. She looks great. Seems to weigh in with rational input and didn't really have any scandals this season or outrageous behavior. I hope she meets someone nice and settles down.

Anonymous wrote:Wow. So I'm convinced by the reactions of the other housewives (and her own) that Dorinda is a coke head.

I always thought the primary attraction to John was that he doesn't judge her for substance abuse. He probably supplies it.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. So I'm convinced by the reactions of the other housewives (and her own) that Dorinda is a coke head.

Me too. I'm stunned.

I am convinced, as well. Not stunned, though.

Bethenny is repulsive, and Carol springing to her defense is pathetic. I don't love Luann but she's clearly the current target of Bethenny's self-hating scorn (you're off the hook, Sonja). I'm not sure I can watch this show anymore.

Anonymous wrote:Wow. So I'm convinced by the reactions of the other housewives (and her own) that Dorinda is a coke head.

Me too. I'm stunned.

Wow. So I'm convinced by the reactions of the other housewives (and her own) that Dorinda is a coke head.

Anonymous wrote:Jules looks healthier.

Yes, she does. She looked good when she was on WWHL a few weeks ago.

Jules looks healthier.

Anonymous wrote:Luann looked so pathetic explaining Tom falling into the "clutches" of another woman. So trite. But I think Luann knows exactly what she is doing. I actually have a lot of respect for her after her bravo special. She uses men to get ahead and seems to do this with her eyes wide open. She managed to get out of small town working class connecticut and created a really fabulous life.

+1.

Anonymous wrote:Luann looked so pathetic explaining Tom falling into the "clutches" of another woman. So trite. But I think Luann knows exactly what she is doing. I actually have a lot of respect for her after her bravo special. She uses men to get ahead and seems to do this with her eyes wide open. She managed to get out of small town working class connecticut and created a really fabulous life.

Tom is probably in on it as well. He's never been married right? This whole Tom drama probably solidified Luann as a housewife next season. She was just a friend last season. It could explain why she does not care about Tom's make out session.

Luann looked so pathetic explaining Tom falling into the "clutches" of another woman. So trite. But I think Luann knows exactly what she is doing. I actually have a lot of respect for her after her bravo special. She uses men to get ahead and seems to do this with her eyes wide open. She managed to get out of small town working class connecticut and created a really fabulous life.

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Anonymous wrote:Bethenney and her boyfriend's wife were friends in high school. She's run into her a couple times in the last 20-30 years.

Theres no way Bethany's boyfriend left his wife and instantly started dating Bethany. Bethany was screwing him while he was still with his wife and hid him from the viewers because he was married. Then he got separated and only then did she go public. All the ladies knew this but didn't spill the beans. Well it looks like from the previews of the reunion Luann will spill.

This is what I think too. If it's true Bethenny is a huge hypocrite.