Anonymous
Post 07/18/2015 15:24     Subject: HS Party with Alcohol... Death
Oops. Forgot the link to story referenced above:

http://www.wjla.com/articles/2015/07/md-teen-pleads-guilty-in-fatal-drunk-driving-crash-115662.html

Anonymous
Post 07/18/2015 15:23     Subject: HS Party with Alcohol... Death
Here is another article about the "Sherwood" accident, where the driver just pled guilty. Apparently the parents at the host part house were out of the country. The individual who lived there was having lots of loud parties late into the night. A neighbor didn't want to "call the cops" on the kids so sent an email to the homeowners association. But that night was the fatal accident.
Moral of story? Call the police on underage drinking parties.
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2015 13:09     Subject: HS Party with Alcohol... Death
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'd say 21:17 is clueless. This thread is just another perfect example how adults knew damn well these kids were drinking and driving. And did nothing to stop it.


And I'd say you're clueless if you think teens don't fool their parents all the time. Perhaps you were born an adult and somehow missed the teenage years....

FWIW, I have teens and no parent I know would willingly allow their kids to drink and drive, but kids are good at deception. There was one adult who allowed kids to have a party at his house and while not providing booze, looked the other way. Other parents knew this and were furious. They told their kids not to go there, but even some of the good kids sneaked over -- it's called peer pressure. Ultimately, the kid who t threw the party went away to a substance abuse program, but I'm sure the parties only moved to another house. Particularly by junior year, it seems, you need to watch your kids like a hawk. They think they're invincible and for every horrible fatal crash, their are tons of other kids who get away with driving drunk and continue to do it.

Once you know your kid has started drinking, why in the hell does a parent allow him driving privileges? This sounds more like parent self-deception, but it feels good, huh?

Or when you see that your kid is lying about where exactly he's going at night, why keeping giving him the privilege of going out at night? Because he's got you believing it's his right? Like the car?
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2015 11:49     Subject: HS Party with Alcohol... Death
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'd say 21:17 is clueless. This thread is just another perfect example how adults knew damn well these kids were drinking and driving. And did nothing to stop it.


And I'd say you're clueless if you think teens don't fool their parents all the time. Perhaps you were born an adult and somehow missed the teenage years....

FWIW, I have teens and no parent I know would willingly allow their kids to drink and drive, but kids are good at deception. There was one adult who allowed kids to have a party at his house and while not providing booze, looked the other way. Other parents knew this and were furious. They told their kids not to go there, but even some of the good kids sneaked over -- it's called peer pressure. Ultimately, the kid who t threw the party went away to a substance abuse program, but I'm sure the parties only moved to another house. Particularly by junior year, it seems, you need to watch your kids like a hawk. They think they're invincible and for every horrible fatal crash, their are tons of other kids who get away with driving drunk and continue to do it.

Once you know your kid has started drinking, why in the hell does a parent allow him driving privileges? This sounds more like parent self-deception, but it feels good, huh?
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2015 11:40     Subject: HS Party with Alcohol... Death
Anonymous wrote:I'd say 21:17 is clueless. This thread is just another perfect example how adults knew damn well these kids were drinking and driving. And did nothing to stop it.


And I'd say you're clueless if you think teens don't fool their parents all the time. Perhaps you were born an adult and somehow missed the teenage years....

FWIW, I have teens and no parent I know would willingly allow their kids to drink and drive, but kids are good at deception. There was one adult who allowed kids to have a party at his house and while not providing booze, looked the other way. Other parents knew this and were furious. They told their kids not to go there, but even some of the good kids sneaked over -- it's called peer pressure. Ultimately, the kid who t threw the party went away to a substance abuse program, but I'm sure the parties only moved to another house. Particularly by junior year, it seems, you need to watch your kids like a hawk. They think they're invincible and for every horrible fatal crash, their are tons of other kids who get away with driving drunk and continue to do it.
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2015 11:29     Subject: HS Party with Alcohol... Death
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Was the blood alcohol level of the drunk drunk driver reported, or is it being kept secret?



When and if the driver is indicted the BAC will be revealed at trial. There is no secret.

I thought news reports usually include this immediately, with alcohol related fatalities. Why withhold this until the trial?


Nothing is being withheld. Chill on the lynching okay?
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2015 10:54     Subject: HS Party with Alcohol... Death
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Was the blood alcohol level of the drunk drunk driver reported, or is it being kept secret?



When and if the driver is indicted the BAC will be revealed at trial. There is no secret.

I thought news reports usually include this immediately, with alcohol related fatalities. Why withhold this until the trial?
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2015 23:04     Subject: HS Party with Alcohol... Death
Anonymous wrote:Was the blood alcohol level of the drunk drunk driver reported, or is it being kept secret?



When and if the driver is indicted the BAC will be revealed at trial. There is no secret.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2015 22:56     Subject: HS Party with Alcohol... Death
Anonymous wrote:I'd say 21:17 is clueless. This thread is just another perfect example how adults knew damn well these kids were drinking and driving. And did nothing to stop it.

How do you know better?
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2015 22:56     Subject: HS Party with Alcohol... Death
So fine, the kids steal the alcohol, but then the parents decide to look the other way and not confront the teen when they notice a bottle of Jack is missing.

That is the same as providing it.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2015 22:16     Subject: HS Party with Alcohol... Death
I'd say 21:17 is clueless. This thread is just another perfect example how adults knew damn well these kids were drinking and driving. And did nothing to stop it.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2015 21:17     Subject: Re:HS Party with Alcohol... Death
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You all understand it would be very rare for parents to "host" parties and "serve" teens alcohol, right?

Kids have parties all the time in their homes. Their parents are usually out, but certainly not always.

I'd say the parents are almost alway out or unaware. But the point is they rarely "host" and serve the teens. Unless the mom proceeds to have sex with them -- like the weird off case of the local former NFL cheerleader mom. It's just not as common as pps are fretting about.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2015 20:24     Subject: HS Party with Alcohol... Death
Was the blood alcohol level of the drunk drunk driver reported, or is it being kept secret?
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2015 20:21     Subject: Re:HS Party with Alcohol... Death
Anonymous wrote:You all understand it would be very rare for parents to "host" parties and "serve" teens alcohol, right?

Kids have parties all the time in their homes. Their parents are usually out, but certainly not always.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2015 20:15     Subject: Re:HS Party with Alcohol... Death
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Please stop with the assumption that parents "provide" or serve kids alcohol. I do not know of that ever happening. News flash: Kids take alcohol from their own homes is common. Older sibs/friends buying for the teens is common. Also the kids have fake IDs.


News Flash: When parents fail to secure (lock-up) their liquor stash, they are thus allowing it to be available to underaged drinkers in their house. How is that not quietly(?) providing the alcohol to their kid and friends?

You lock up your beer? Bless your heart. But your neighbors, family and friends don't.

Locking up the liquor vs. Drinking and driving (maybe dead) kid?
Let's see......

Do you lock up your knives and scissors? What about your medicine and prescriptions? Cough syrup? Aerosol cans? These have all been used to place teens in great risk of harming themselves or others.