Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who exactly are these entitled people you keep talking about? And what is it they are entitled to? Are you talking about people entitled to welfare and Medicare and Social Security? What does that have to do with second graders?

I think it refers to the indigenous population; not the ones who got in on H-1b visas and brought their test-prep hell culture over here with them.

I doubt they are talking about the "indigenous" population, as that would be native Americans. They are talking about people of European heritage

Yes. Those of us whose parents or grandparents fought in WWII. Thouse of us whose tax dollars paid for the investment in education, research and development that the complainers are sucking off.

Anonymous wrote:Who exactly are these entitled people you keep talking about? And what is it they are entitled to? Are you talking about people entitled to welfare and Medicare and Social Security? What does that have to do with second graders?

I think it refers to the indigenous population; not the ones who got in on H-1b visas and brought their test-prep hell culture over here with them.

Who exactly are these entitled people you keep talking about? And what is it they are entitled to? Are you talking about people entitled to welfare and Medicare and Social Security? What does that have to do with second graders?

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Who exactly are these entitled people you keep talking about? And what is it they are entitled to? Are you talking about people entitled to welfare and Medicare and Social Security? What does that have to do with second graders?

Anonymous wrote:
This is such BS! AAP is so watered down it is for any kid whose parents appeal or raise a ruckus. Ninety percent of the kids in AAP (like yours I am sure) don't belong there.

"AAP is not a prize to either work for or be entitled to.

It is a program aimed at helping students whose needs cannot be met in the regular classroom. The kids who need the AAP classroom learn differently then kids who do well in the regular classroom. Life for kids who need AAP can be miserable in the regular classroom. If you have known a child who really needs AAP, you will understand how important the support available in AAP is to those kids. "

This is such BS! AAP is so watered down it is for any kid whose parents appeal or raise a ruckus. Ninety percent of the kids in AAP (like yours I am sure) don't belong there.

In every zip code in America the children of recent immigrants are outperforming children of the entitled culture. This has created an ever expanding performance and achievement gap in education as the entitled culture witnesses in every zip code these children taking their self anointed spots in every AAP, gifted program, IB, AP and Honors program in the land.

This is the root cause of this furor. And the entitled culture will go to any unethical length to disrupt this trend -- including voter fraud and suppression

I have to agree here.

This is the fundamental cause of the 45 page catharsis.

Excuses, rationalization, and cries about "prepping" and "cheating" are a red herring.

The dye is cast and the performance gap has exploded wide open.

There is no where for the entitled to hide.

Anonymous wrote:AAP is not a prize to either work for or be entitled to.

It is a program aimed at helping students whose needs cannot be met in the regular classroom. The kids who need the AAP classroom learn differently then kids who do well in the regular classroom. Life for kids who need AAP can be miserable in the regular classroom. If you have known a child who really needs AAP, you will understand how important the support available in AAP is to those kids.

Here we go again

AAP is not a prize to either work for or be entitled to.

It is a program aimed at helping students whose needs cannot be met in the regular classroom. The kids who need the AAP classroom learn differently then kids who do well in the regular classroom. Life for kids who need AAP can be miserable in the regular classroom. If you have known a child who really needs AAP, you will understand how important the support available in AAP is to those kids.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Didn't read the whole thread but there are naturally gifted kids that will do well on the test without prep. Then there are high achievers that will do well because they prepped like crazy. The AAP teachers know the difference when they teach the kids.

So?

+1. So what, once in, you are in. If the child does not do well, they can return to the big pool of general ed and be a big fish there. There is also a last place finisher in the Harvard Law and Hopkins Medical Schools.

Anonymous wrote:
And so the thread that will not die returns to life...!

I can't complain though about all those damn Cogat prepping / scammers and this thread as a result, since it did produce the comment below as well as some funny postings about a beached whale.

In every zip code in America the children of recent immigrants are outperforming children of the entitled culture. This has created an ever expanding performance and achievement gap in education as the entitled culture witnesses in every zip code these children taking their self anointed spots in every AAP, gifted program, IB, AP and Honors program in the land.

This is the root cause of this furor. And the entitled culture will go to any unethical length to disrupt this trend -- including voter fraud and suppression

I don't know. I am happy to be part of the entitled culture. After all, my parents were denied admission to college based on religion, and not ability. I was not. I am entitled. I did not work for my degree. For my doctorate. For my annual raises and bonuses. I am entitled to that. I am entitled to 50 K in taxes. For that, my hard working child is entitled to be in AAP in spite of the fact that she did not prep for the AAP tests. She is entitled.

What about those children who were red shirted? Some have been 8 years old since or almost since the beginning of the school year and the FAT Cogat test this year did not age-norm therefore allowing them an advantage on the exam. Their score would have been lower if they were age normed and therefore some do not really belong in the pool.

And so the thread that will not die returns to life...!

I can't complain though about all those damn Cogat prepping / scammers and this thread as a result, since it did produce the comment below as well as some funny postings about a beached whale.

In every zip code in America the children of recent immigrants are outperforming children of the entitled culture. This has created an ever expanding performance and achievement gap in education as the entitled culture witnesses in every zip code these children taking their self anointed spots in every AAP, gifted program, IB, AP and Honors program in the land.

This is the root cause of this furor. And the entitled culture will go to any unethical length to disrupt this trend -- including voter fraud and suppression