Embarrassing…

Wow!

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Anonymous wrote:Taylor is revered for her pettiness and vengefulness. It’s part of how fans relate to her.

Yeah, I never get the criticism here. Any show, any book, any movie, any music we listen to it’s all about people figuring their crap out.

“ I’ve been in therapy for years and I’m finally figuring out how to own my own stuff and not rely on other people to meet needs I am responsible for meeting on my own” is great in real life but we want to see that journey not just hear about the destination.

This is not a People magazine cover story. It’s an album.

If people want to like her for her pettiness and vengefulness, I get that. I’m glad some of her fans are owning up to that because they used to berate/insult anyone who called her that. I guess they are maturing? I DO have a problem with someone who is consistently punching down and using vengeance as a platform being called a “good role model” for young girls. I can only see that being a plus if you want to perpetuate mean girl culture.

Anything Taylor does would be seen as punching down. She’s helped many of these young artists and they turn around and crap on her but somehow Taylor’s the one who’s not the girls girl.

Comments like these is why people think some of you are in a cult of personality.Whi the hell are these young artists she's supposedly helped ??? I swear some of you aren't capable of embarrassment .

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Anonymous wrote:I really like the song Wish List. I’m surprised she wrote it for Travis. It sounds just like “And if my wishes came true, it would’ve been you” and “I like shiny things, but I’d marry you with paper rings.” Those deep desires don’t transfer to every man a woman dates. My bet is it’s at least partly inspired by Matty Healy, still. The lyric about asking the world to leave them the f&ck alone, “and they do, wow” makes no sense for Travis. No one is bothering and canceling them the way they did when she went public with Matty.
Wish List is the continuation of But Daddy I Love Him: the heat dies down and she gets back together with him. Her parents and the fans lets them be and she is having his baby.

Elizabeth Taylor has shades of the anxious attachment that was all over Lover. Cornelia Street: “and baby I’m so terrified of if you ever walk away/ I’d never walk Cornelia Street again.” Elizabeth Taylor: “And if you ever leave me high and dry / I’d cry my eyes violet Elizabeth Taylor.” Mind you, Elizabeth Taylor is one of about 4 songs I like on this album but nevertheless, she is ENDLESSLY retreading the same themes she’s been writing about for the last 8 years. There’s no forward progression.

The topics are so boring and not of the moment when people are being snatched off the street. Zach Bryan's song about the fading red, white, and blue is more of the moment. Hope he wins an award for that.

The songs mostly have zero to do with being a showgirl...

TS comes off as narcissistic.

Way too many references to brands, like Gucci. Does she get paid to mention them?

She seems borderline to me. Running from one man to the next man and then to the next man. Never can be alone. Her friendships end. Her squad was a bunch of people who said they did not know each other that well.

The veil has lifted for me.

In Miss Americana, she said she would become more political. But, nope. She is more MAGA than anything and hanging with MAGA friends.

Zach Bryan beats women left and right. His team tried to pay off his ex-girlfriend $12 million so she would sign an NDA.

Your misogyny is showing and it’s truly gross.

Anonymous wrote:I don't know that anyone has been saying "poor Charli" in this. More that we are tired of seeing women tearing each other down in general, and that Taylor's song tears Charli down (literally compares her to a yappy dog) whereas Charli's song did not.

Whatever has happened behind closed doors is none of my business and I'd like to stay that way -- I think it is tacky to drag your personal beefs out in public and try to get people to pick sides because I don't know either of these women.

The whole point is that prior to Actually Romantic, no one was talking about TAYLOR V. CHARLI and now it's a hot topic, and that is Taylor's doing and therefore I resent it because ugh, no one needs this.

I don't care what the say/do about each other out of the public eye. Whatever.

I think it's BS that male artists can say whatever they want (ahem...Kendrick Lamar) and are celebrated for a diss track that hits, but women are preached at to stop "tearing each other down". Tired of women artists being held to a much higher standard. Just so tired of it.

Oh please. I can’t believe anyone actually thinks Actually Romantic is a response to Sympathy is a Knife.

It’s a response to the fact that Taylor thought she and Charli were friends, or friendly at least, and then she finds out from mutuals that Charli was shit talking her behind her back in their wider friendship circle and that she was instrumental in discouraging Matty Healy from dating her/getting back together with her summer of ‘23.

FYI, Charli is married to Matty’s close friend and bandmade and she is the one who introduced him to his current fiancé like 2 minutes after he dumped Taylor. So Charli would have had plenty of opportunity to be a bug in Matty’s ear about Taylor.

That’s what Taylor is really mad about. It’s not about being called “boring Barbie” or whatever. It’s the fact that she “high fives her ex after he ghosted her.”

And I do think it’s pretty shitty that Charli would push Gabbriette on him because Taylor makes HER feel small and insecure.

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Anonymous wrote:The idea that a White woman cannot clap back at a hayer who is non-White is absurd. And Charlie XCX is White herself.

"Clapping back" is a childish thing to do. That's the whole point. I feel the same way about any "response" from Charli at this point. Grow the eff up. These women are in their 30s.

If the have personal issues due to behavior in their private lives, they should solve those things privately, not try and get the public to vote. Gross.

If the whole thing was for attention and streaming numbers, it's even worse.

I have no respect for anyone involved in this.

Have you ever given a thought to song lyrics before in your life or just now when it’s Taylor doing something you just found out about? Why now?

Anonymous wrote:I don't know that anyone has been saying "poor Charli" in this. More that we are tired of seeing women tearing each other down in general, and that Taylor's song tears Charli down (literally compares her to a yappy dog) whereas Charli's song did not.

Whatever has happened behind closed doors is none of my business and I'd like to stay that way -- I think it is tacky to drag your personal beefs out in public and try to get people to pick sides because I don't know either of these women.

The whole point is that prior to Actually Romantic, no one was talking about TAYLOR V. CHARLI and now it's a hot topic, and that is Taylor's doing and therefore I resent it because ugh, no one needs this.

I don't care what the say/do about each other out of the public eye. Whatever.

The music business is full of people feuding through lyrics, and also beyond lyrics on social media, at shows... Not sure why she's expected to rise above when she is doing a fraction of the beef others are doing. It's also not serious or deep.

Anonymous wrote:The idea that a White woman cannot clap back at a hayer who is non-White is absurd. And Charlie XCX is White herself.

"Clapping back" is a childish thing to do. That's the whole point. I feel the same way about any "response" from Charli at this point. Grow the eff up. These women are in their 30s.

If the have personal issues due to behavior in their private lives, they should solve those things privately, not try and get the public to vote. Gross.

If the whole thing was for attention and streaming numbers, it's even worse.

I have no respect for anyone involved in this.

I don't know that anyone has been saying "poor Charli" in this. More that we are tired of seeing women tearing each other down in general, and that Taylor's song tears Charli down (literally compares her to a yappy dog) whereas Charli's song did not.

Whatever has happened behind closed doors is none of my business and I'd like to stay that way -- I think it is tacky to drag your personal beefs out in public and try to get people to pick sides because I don't know either of these women.

The whole point is that prior to Actually Romantic, no one was talking about TAYLOR V. CHARLI and now it's a hot topic, and that is Taylor's doing and therefore I resent it because ugh, no one needs this.

I don't care what the say/do about each other out of the public eye. Whatever.

The idea that a White woman cannot clap back at a hayer who is non-White is absurd. And Charlie XCX is White herself.

Anonymous wrote:Charli is a white Brit. Her dad is white, her mom is light skinned Indian decent.

She is not black or brown. Give it a rest with the race angle.

Actually, Charlie’s mother is a dark skinned Indian woman that would probably be mistaken for a black person in the States.

Charli is a white Brit. Her dad is white, her mom is light skinned Indian decent.

She is not black or brown. Give it a rest with the race angle.

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Anonymous wrote:"Opalite" is about Travis's ex girlfriend he dated for five years? It's so gross to be a billionaire with this sort of platform attacking a random middle class Black woman who dated your fiancé.

Because she’s insecure even though she shouldn’t be. Travis would never leave her money and fame for some middle class rando.

She has at least two disses for black women.

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Ex gf of Travis

It's gross. And, with the ex gf, Taylor is punching down on a woman who does not have a big platform or all the money that TS has. It's not a good look. It's actually like something Trump would do.

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Oh, my bad. Taylor is attacking brown women of Indian descent and black women. Glad we have that clarified.

Charli has attacked first, and often. She doesn't not give a F, why should you

Agree. All the violins for Charli are very tiny right now. Let me just say I cannot WAIT for Taylor's ragey, perimenopause writing. Bring them down, Tay.

Imagine hating Taylor so much that you defend a woman you've never seen, let alone listened to.

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Anonymous wrote:"Opalite" is about Travis's ex girlfriend he dated for five years? It's so gross to be a billionaire with this sort of platform attacking a random middle class Black woman who dated your fiancé.

Because she’s insecure even though she shouldn’t be. Travis would never leave her money and fame for some middle class rando.

She has at least two disses for black women.

Charli XCX
Ex gf of Travis

It's gross. And, with the ex gf, Taylor is punching down on a woman who does not have a big platform or all the money that TS has. It's not a good look. It's actually like something Trump would do.

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Oh, my bad. Taylor is attacking brown women of Indian descent and black women. Glad we have that clarified.

Charli has attacked first, and often. She doesn't not give a F, why should you

Yea, and just for funsies, Charlie just last night liked a post from a racists account. The post is making fun of Taylor stealing all of Travis's wiggerness. The post is a bit suspect, the account is straight racist - very anti-black pop culture. Sooo, let's not feel too sorry for Charli.

Yeah I'm not buying all this poor Charli crap. She's problematic and has been for a while.

Well, and I mean also, she's the opposite of Taylor. Definitely not the girl next door.