Anonymous
Post 04/03/2025 11:05     Subject: Trump tariffs: ruin U.S. economy until 2040

Anonymous wrote:To everyone reading this on their IPhone/IPad. It’s made in China 🇨🇳. Your next upgrade is going to be much more expensive after this. But I just, USA USA USA 💀


That's the thing - both Apple and Google are US companies and iOS and Android are code written by Americans in the US. We have a robust knowledge-based economy. Building the phones is part of it, writing the code is the other part, and that happens here, and we export/sell our IP all over the world.

They could write their own code or steal ours without paying. Why won't they, now?
Anonymous
Post 04/03/2025 11:04     Subject: Re:Trump tariffs: ruin U.S. economy until 2040

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If any day exposes the differences between urban elites and most of the country, this day does

Just had a great couple meetings with contractors working on my house in North Carolina far from the beltway bubble.

None of them are impacted by the tariffs. None of them were Hispanic. They lived in the area since childhood, an electrician, a plumber, a contractor and helpers.

All of them support stopping the overwhelming immigration that replace US workers with cheap labor and all of them support tariffs to bring back manufacturing to US.

Maybe we should be able to build our own anti-biotics without the globalists demanding their cut.

Good Day!


OMG just because you say you aren’t affected doesn’t make it true.

Wait till your plumber friend loses business because fixtures are 25% more, pvc pipes more. Those industries are bracing for losses. Look what happened to lumber in the pandemic.

But I suppose it’s all wasted breath to cultists.



+1
How can contractor friend not be worried about cost of lumber?


Either they're stupid, or imaginary.
Anonymous
Post 04/03/2025 11:02     Subject: Trump tariffs: ruin U.S. economy until 2040

To everyone reading this on their IPhone/IPad. It’s made in China 🇨🇳. Your next upgrade is going to be much more expensive after this. But I just, USA USA USA 💀
Anonymous
Post 04/03/2025 11:01     Subject: Trump tariffs: ruin U.S. economy until 2040

Anonymous wrote:is this good or bad?



This is good but it would better if they were fired. Firing people is what Trump and Republicans want to do.
Anonymous
Post 04/03/2025 10:59     Subject: Trump tariffs: ruin U.S. economy until 2040

is this good or bad?

Anonymous
Post 04/03/2025 10:58     Subject: Trump tariffs: ruin U.S. economy until 2040

(Dow Jones) - Jeep-parent Stellantis is temporarily halting production at its auto assembly factories in Mexico and Canada, a day after the Trump administration's new tariffs on vehicle imports went into effect.
Anonymous
Post 04/03/2025 10:57     Subject: Re:Trump tariffs: ruin U.S. economy until 2040

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Going:


Guess Dems were right all along. Yeah.

I posted a few days ago either here or in the 47 Economy thread - it BOGGLES my mind that Wall Street bigwigs were so all in for Trump this time without at all noting the giant risk that he would, you know, implement the policies he spent all of his rallies talking about. Tariffs were his only economic plan.


+1. I was shaking my head about the comment that lawyers/bankers are crying. Those folks voted for this mess!


Not all of them. Not even most of them. They were also the ones ringing the alarm bells that MAGAs ignored.


No, banker backed Trump. Lawyers with corporate practices backed Trump.


But this is dumb too. Sure, taxes may get cut a few points and regulations are dismantled.....but your sales crater by 20-50% and correspondingly your stock takes a punishing in the market.

How is this winning?
Anonymous
Post 04/03/2025 10:55     Subject: Re:Trump tariffs: ruin U.S. economy until 2040

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Started:


Going:


Guess Dems were right all along. Yeah.

I posted a few days ago either here or in the 47 Economy thread - it BOGGLES my mind that Wall Street bigwigs were so all in for Trump this time without at all noting the giant risk that he would, you know, implement the policies he spent all of his rallies talking about. Tariffs were his only economic plan.


+1. I was shaking my head about the comment that lawyers/bankers are crying. Those folks voted for this mess!


Not all of them. Not even most of them. They were also the ones ringing the alarm bells that MAGAs ignored.


No, banker backed Trump. Lawyers with corporate practices backed Trump.
Anonymous
Post 04/03/2025 10:52     Subject: Re:Trump tariffs: ruin U.S. economy until 2040

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If any day exposes the differences between urban elites and most of the country, this day does

Just had a great couple meetings with contractors working on my house in North Carolina far from the beltway bubble.

None of them are impacted by the tariffs. None of them were Hispanic. They lived in the area since childhood, an electrician, a plumber, a contractor and helpers.

All of them support stopping the overwhelming immigration that replace US workers with cheap labor and all of them support tariffs to bring back manufacturing to US.

Maybe we should be able to build our own anti-biotics without the globalists demanding their cut.

Good Day!


Well, we used to do that but with the cuts to the NIH and to research universities, we won't anymore. The medical research scientists will retool and learn plumbing and contracting instead of chemistry and biology. We used to have a knowledge-based economy but Trump doesn't want that and neither do your contractors. So we won't have that anymore.


The manufacturing left way before the cuts to NIH.

And believe me, NIH grants do NOT build anything.

But who can debate with someone that cant read

Even with all going on, Durban and Democrats, want to expand immigration. You cannot make this up how much Democrats hate US workers.


Wow, they actually do...the grants fund research into new drugs, which leads to more drug manufacturing and manufacturing plants, those are construction jobs and then lab jobs. But ok, explain how that is not building anything.


I am honestly shocked this person can use the internet given what an absolute moron they are. It’s like he stepped out of the 1800s.
Anonymous
Post 04/03/2025 10:47     Subject: Re:Trump tariffs: ruin U.S. economy until 2040

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If any day exposes the differences between urban elites and most of the country, this day does

Just had a great couple meetings with contractors working on my house in North Carolina far from the beltway bubble.

None of them are impacted by the tariffs. None of them were Hispanic. They lived in the area since childhood, an electrician, a plumber, a contractor and helpers.

All of them support stopping the overwhelming immigration that replace US workers with cheap labor and all of them support tariffs to bring back manufacturing to US.

Maybe we should be able to build our own anti-biotics without the globalists demanding their cut.

Good Day!


OMG just because you say you aren’t affected doesn’t make it true.

Wait till your plumber friend loses business because fixtures are 25% more, pvc pipes more. Those industries are bracing for losses. Look what happened to lumber in the pandemic.

But I suppose it’s all wasted breath to cultists.



+1
How can contractor friend not be worried about cost of lumber?
Anonymous
Post 04/03/2025 10:46     Subject: Re:Trump tariffs: ruin U.S. economy until 2040

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One thing that Trump is correct about is that Germany, China, Korea, France, Italy, Japan etc. have never demonstrated an iota of interest in having an even BOT with America. Tolerating that forever has had “knock-on effects” and resulted in the Rust Belt and the huge outperformance of coastal-state economies over the heartland.


Has it though? Yes, free trade has harmed some American workers but it has also enriched America in total. What has harmed American workers is wealth redistribution from workers to CEOs and to shareholders who want quarterly profits instead of long term investment and reinvestment.

Reforming our corporate structure would help Americans more than these destructive tariffs that will harm everyone, Americans and everyone else too.


Blame Walmart. Blame Amazon.


I do, in part. When Sam Walton was alive, he supported American businesses and Walmart and Sam's Club carried American-made products. When he died, his children lowered prices by buying imported products, and the downward spiral continued. But the reason they did that was because of corporate governance and rules and regulations from Congress, laws, and court cases. Greed was not only encouraged but also required. Corporate reform would bring back Sam Walton's policies rather than his children's policies, which would enrich Americans overall but would reduce the wealth of the CEOS, owners, and shareholders, who are also us.


The stupidity is astonishing.
Anonymous
Post 04/03/2025 10:40     Subject: Re:Trump tariffs: ruin U.S. economy until 2040

Anonymous wrote:If any day exposes the differences between urban elites and most of the country, this day does

Just had a great couple meetings with contractors working on my house in North Carolina far from the beltway bubble.

None of them are impacted by the tariffs. None of them were Hispanic. They lived in the area since childhood, an electrician, a plumber, a contractor and helpers.

All of them support stopping the overwhelming immigration that replace US workers with cheap labor and all of them support tariffs to bring back manufacturing to US.

Maybe we should be able to build our own anti-biotics without the globalists demanding their cut.

Good Day!


OMG just because you say you aren’t affected doesn’t make it true.

Wait till your plumber friend loses business because fixtures are 25% more, pvc pipes more. Those industries are bracing for losses. Look what happened to lumber in the pandemic.

But I suppose it’s all wasted breath to cultists.

Anonymous
Post 04/03/2025 10:38     Subject: Re:Trump tariffs: ruin U.S. economy until 2040

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If any day exposes the differences between urban elites and most of the country, this day does

Just had a great couple meetings with contractors working on my house in North Carolina far from the beltway bubble.

None of them are impacted by the tariffs. None of them were Hispanic. They lived in the area since childhood, an electrician, a plumber, a contractor and helpers.

All of them support stopping the overwhelming immigration that replace US workers with cheap labor and all of them support tariffs to bring back manufacturing to US.

Maybe we should be able to build our own anti-biotics without the globalists demanding their cut.

Good Day!


Tariffs are a tax on every day goods. So regardless of your awesome meeting with your contractors, THEIR costs are going up. their food costs, their labor costs, their materials costs etc are ALL going up. They may not feel it today, but they will in a week or a month.


Not if they buy local.

Look at companies doing good on stock market. Look at companies doing bad. The companies going down are the ones that exported US jobs and rely on other companies to build things. Hope they go in the toilet.

Maybe next time, hire a US worker.

Just a thought.


Ok, I just looked. The companies that are doing well include the telephone companies (Verizon and ATT) utilities and then foreign companies. Just about everything else is down.

Both O’Reilly Auto Parts and Autozone are up - like yay, everyone else is getting hit with this sh!t too?
Anonymous
Post 04/03/2025 10:35     Subject: Re:Trump tariffs: ruin U.S. economy until 2040

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If any day exposes the differences between urban elites and most of the country, this day does

Just had a great couple meetings with contractors working on my house in North Carolina far from the beltway bubble.

None of them are impacted by the tariffs. None of them were Hispanic. They lived in the area since childhood, an electrician, a plumber, a contractor and helpers.

All of them support stopping the overwhelming immigration that replace US workers with cheap labor and all of them support tariffs to bring back manufacturing to US.

Maybe we should be able to build our own anti-biotics without the globalists demanding their cut.

Good Day!


Tariffs are a tax on every day goods. So regardless of your awesome meeting with your contractors, THEIR costs are going up. their food costs, their labor costs, their materials costs etc are ALL going up. They may not feel it today, but they will in a week or a month.


Not if they buy local.

Look at companies doing good on stock market. Look at companies doing bad. The companies going down are the ones that exported US jobs and rely on other companies to build things. Hope they go in the toilet.

Maybe next time, hire a US worker.

Just a thought.


Next time they want to make decent chocolate chip cookies, guess where the vanilla comes from?

I challenge you to name a list of products that every day Americans can afford that are made domestically.

Hint: almost nothing at walmart or target is made domestically. Guess where MOST Americans shop?


There was some blogger a few years ago who tried to buy only American for a full year. Some things were so expensive - only $300 jeans made in the US. Others were simply impossible to find - it simply is not fully made anywhere in the country. I can't remember the name, but it was really interesting.


DP. For years, when we were DINKS, I tried to buy American (or European) for almost everything and succeeded 90-95% of the time. But I had to give it up when we had kids because it was simply unaffordable.
Anonymous
Post 04/03/2025 10:33     Subject: Re:Trump tariffs: ruin U.S. economy until 2040

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If any day exposes the differences between urban elites and most of the country, this day does

Just had a great couple meetings with contractors working on my house in North Carolina far from the beltway bubble.

None of them are impacted by the tariffs. None of them were Hispanic. They lived in the area since childhood, an electrician, a plumber, a contractor and helpers.

All of them support stopping the overwhelming immigration that replace US workers with cheap labor and all of them support tariffs to bring back manufacturing to US.

Maybe we should be able to build our own anti-biotics without the globalists demanding their cut.

Good Day!


Tariffs are a tax on every day goods. So regardless of your awesome meeting with your contractors, THEIR costs are going up. their food costs, their labor costs, their materials costs etc are ALL going up. They may not feel it today, but they will in a week or a month.


Not if they buy local.

Look at companies doing good on stock market. Look at companies doing bad. The companies going down are the ones that exported US jobs and rely on other companies to build things. Hope they go in the toilet.

Maybe next time, hire a US worker.

Just a thought.


Ok, I just looked. The companies that are doing well include the telephone companies (Verizon and ATT) utilities and then foreign companies. Just about everything else is down.