Anonymous
Post 09/14/2024 13:56     Subject: The DMV needs a YIMBY revolution

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Anonymous wrote:The Harvard Business Review takes an evidence-filled bat to nearly every single YIMBY talking point. Just a complete takedown:

https://hbr.org/2024/09/the-market-alone-cant-fix-the-u-s-housing-crisis


Did you miss the part of the article where they propose public housing projects and where restrictive covenants are criticized?

“But other restrictions are still commonly used and enforced, including ones that prevent the construction of multifamily housing, establish minimum lot sizes, and even restrict non-traditional households from living in a neighborhood. Often enforced by private homeowners’ associations, these covenants function as a form of private zoning, but enacted without public input.”


DP. If you really want to lower housing costs, you’ll internalize the entire article instead of selectively quoting it. There’s a lot in there that is contrary to YIMBY orthodoxy and other things that are contrary NIMBY orthodoxy. Both YIMBYs and NIMBYs have some good ideas, but the extremists who have dominated the discussion have delivered us the housing crisis.


I know a lot of YIMBYs, and none of them believe that zoning changes, alone, will fix the housing crisis, or that the market, alone, will fix the housing crisis. Maybe there are some YIMBYs who believe that, but I don't know any.


PP. You create a strawman by focusing on one YIMBY policy instead of the overarching theory. The YIMBYs’ major shortcoming is their belief that the market will drive prices down without government intervention. Their denial of how much illegal price fixing has pushed up costs is a symptom of this.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2024 13:07     Subject: The DMV needs a YIMBY revolution

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Harvard Business Review takes an evidence-filled bat to nearly every single YIMBY talking point. Just a complete takedown:

https://hbr.org/2024/09/the-market-alone-cant-fix-the-u-s-housing-crisis


Did you miss the part of the article where they propose public housing projects and where restrictive covenants are criticized?

“But other restrictions are still commonly used and enforced, including ones that prevent the construction of multifamily housing, establish minimum lot sizes, and even restrict non-traditional households from living in a neighborhood. Often enforced by private homeowners’ associations, these covenants function as a form of private zoning, but enacted without public input.”


DP. If you really want to lower housing costs, you’ll internalize the entire article instead of selectively quoting it. There’s a lot in there that is contrary to YIMBY orthodoxy and other things that are contrary NIMBY orthodoxy. Both YIMBYs and NIMBYs have some good ideas, but the extremists who have dominated the discussion have delivered us the housing crisis.


I know a lot of YIMBYs, and none of them believe that zoning changes, alone, will fix the housing crisis, or that the market, alone, will fix the housing crisis. Maybe there are some YIMBYs who believe that, but I don't know any.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2024 12:53     Subject: The DMV needs a YIMBY revolution

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Harvard Business Review takes an evidence-filled bat to nearly every single YIMBY talking point. Just a complete takedown:

https://hbr.org/2024/09/the-market-alone-cant-fix-the-u-s-housing-crisis


Did you miss the part of the article where they propose public housing projects and where restrictive covenants are criticized?

“But other restrictions are still commonly used and enforced, including ones that prevent the construction of multifamily housing, establish minimum lot sizes, and even restrict non-traditional households from living in a neighborhood. Often enforced by private homeowners’ associations, these covenants function as a form of private zoning, but enacted without public input.”


DP. If you really want to lower housing costs, you’ll internalize the entire article instead of selectively quoting it. There’s a lot in there that is contrary to YIMBY orthodoxy and other things that are contrary NIMBY orthodoxy. Both YIMBYs and NIMBYs have some good ideas, but the extremists who have dominated the discussion have delivered us the housing crisis.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2024 11:51     Subject: The DMV needs a YIMBY revolution

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Anonymous wrote:Ugh, the old house is down and the new missing middle plex is going up on our street. When I objected to the builder, he shrugged and said that we had elected the county board who approved the missing middle housing. It's going to be rental and he is planning to rent the apartments to multiple groups because it will maximize returns. It can be potentially 16 adults in the building with parking for three cars. I hope the other 13 use bikes or scooters because there is little street parking.


Did you look at the property records to see if your neighborhood has any covenants. You might have standing to sue them, stop construction, potentially get compensation for damages, if they are violating the covenants.


Lawyer up, file once they have signed their contracts with the subs and begun substantial work. You might eventually lose but you can make it hurt for a while.


Is there a fund we could use to pay for the lawyer? We were told if we lost a lawsuit, we would have to pay for the builder's lawyer too.


I would do a comprehensive title search for the past 100 years. There are covenants that were added this property title as early as 1929. This might prevent a developer from building a multifamily unit. Developers don't necessarily do a hundred year title search; they will try to get it built and pretend that they aren't violating the neighbors property.


We live in an Arlington neighborhood with a covenant that says only one dwelling unit can be built on a lot. Maybe there is a similar covenant?


Google told me there are covenants on this property added in 1929 where this plex unit is being built. It does not provide details on whether this covenant includes a limit on the number of units. A title search on your neighbors property would be beneficial.


"this plex unit" means what? If it's a duplex, it's two units. If it's a unit, it's a uniplex.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2024 09:34     Subject: The DMV needs a YIMBY revolution

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Harvard Business Review takes an evidence-filled bat to nearly every single YIMBY talking point. Just a complete takedown:

https://hbr.org/2024/09/the-market-alone-cant-fix-the-u-s-housing-crisis


Come on, who are you going to believe, the Harvard Business Review or some random blogs and Facebook posts written by awkward white millennials?

I’ll have you know that Greater Greater Washington is a highly respected blog format!


GGWash is a ridiculously inconsistent organization but slam them accurately. Dan Reed, their Regional Policy Director, is black. The white boomer co-opting of black angst at the white millennial do-gooder is pretty cringe, especially when deployed incorrectly.


Well, no, not incorrect, not Boomer, and for the love of all things, use of the word cringe is pretty embarrassing. Are you even old enough to enter into home ownership?

While we’re at it, GGW is a silly blog full of blogged opinion pieces, that’s it. What does Dan Reed’s race have anything to do with it? Yes, he’s the YIMBY’s “see, I totally have black friends,” that is true, that doesn’t have anything to do with YIMBY garbage opinions.


Imagine thinking a 26 year old can't engage in homeownership.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2024 09:32     Subject: The DMV needs a YIMBY revolution

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Harvard Business Review takes an evidence-filled bat to nearly every single YIMBY talking point. Just a complete takedown:

https://hbr.org/2024/09/the-market-alone-cant-fix-the-u-s-housing-crisis


Did you miss the part of the article where they propose public housing projects and where restrictive covenants are criticized?

“But other restrictions are still commonly used and enforced, including ones that prevent the construction of multifamily housing, establish minimum lot sizes, and even restrict non-traditional households from living in a neighborhood. Often enforced by private homeowners’ associations, these covenants function as a form of private zoning, but enacted without public input.”


Yes, yes they did.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2024 07:11     Subject: The DMV needs a YIMBY revolution

Anonymous wrote:The Harvard Business Review takes an evidence-filled bat to nearly every single YIMBY talking point. Just a complete takedown:

https://hbr.org/2024/09/the-market-alone-cant-fix-the-u-s-housing-crisis


Did you miss the part of the article where they propose public housing projects and where restrictive covenants are criticized?

“But other restrictions are still commonly used and enforced, including ones that prevent the construction of multifamily housing, establish minimum lot sizes, and even restrict non-traditional households from living in a neighborhood. Often enforced by private homeowners’ associations, these covenants function as a form of private zoning, but enacted without public input.”
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2024 06:40     Subject: The DMV needs a YIMBY revolution

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Harvard Business Review takes an evidence-filled bat to nearly every single YIMBY talking point. Just a complete takedown:

https://hbr.org/2024/09/the-market-alone-cant-fix-the-u-s-housing-crisis


Come on, who are you going to believe, the Harvard Business Review or some random blogs and Facebook posts written by awkward white millennials?

I’ll have you know that Greater Greater Washington is a highly respected blog format!


GGWash is a ridiculously inconsistent organization but slam them accurately. Dan Reed, their Regional Policy Director, is black. The white boomer co-opting of black angst at the white millennial do-gooder is pretty cringe, especially when deployed incorrectly.


Well, no, not incorrect, not Boomer, and for the love of all things, use of the word cringe is pretty embarrassing. Are you even old enough to enter into home ownership?

While we’re at it, GGW is a silly blog full of blogged opinion pieces, that’s it. What does Dan Reed’s race have anything to do with it? Yes, he’s the YIMBY’s “see, I totally have black friends,” that is true, that doesn’t have anything to do with YIMBY garbage opinions.


Also, in the situation, the irony of someone else accusing a party other than the YIMBYs of co-opting racial movements is delicious. This is Trump-level projection by a group of young affluent white people that think they know what’s best for everyone else.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2024 06:27     Subject: The DMV needs a YIMBY revolution

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Harvard Business Review takes an evidence-filled bat to nearly every single YIMBY talking point. Just a complete takedown:

https://hbr.org/2024/09/the-market-alone-cant-fix-the-u-s-housing-crisis


Come on, who are you going to believe, the Harvard Business Review or some random blogs and Facebook posts written by awkward white millennials?

I’ll have you know that Greater Greater Washington is a highly respected blog format!


GGWash is a ridiculously inconsistent organization but slam them accurately. Dan Reed, their Regional Policy Director, is black. The white boomer co-opting of black angst at the white millennial do-gooder is pretty cringe, especially when deployed incorrectly.


Well, no, not incorrect, not Boomer, and for the love of all things, use of the word cringe is pretty embarrassing. Are you even old enough to enter into home ownership?

While we’re at it, GGW is a silly blog full of blogged opinion pieces, that’s it. What does Dan Reed’s race have anything to do with it? Yes, he’s the YIMBY’s “see, I totally have black friends,” that is true, that doesn’t have anything to do with YIMBY garbage opinions.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2024 02:11     Subject: The DMV needs a YIMBY revolution

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Harvard Business Review takes an evidence-filled bat to nearly every single YIMBY talking point. Just a complete takedown:

https://hbr.org/2024/09/the-market-alone-cant-fix-the-u-s-housing-crisis


Come on, who are you going to believe, the Harvard Business Review or some random blogs and Facebook posts written by awkward white millennials?

I’ll have you know that Greater Greater Washington is a highly respected blog format!


GGWash is a ridiculously inconsistent organization but slam them accurately. Dan Reed, their Regional Policy Director, is black. The white boomer co-opting of black angst at the white millennial do-gooder is pretty cringe, especially when deployed incorrectly.
Anonymous
Post 09/13/2024 22:23     Subject: The DMV needs a YIMBY revolution

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Harvard Business Review takes an evidence-filled bat to nearly every single YIMBY talking point. Just a complete takedown:

https://hbr.org/2024/09/the-market-alone-cant-fix-the-u-s-housing-crisis


The YIMBYs have been nearly totally silent about the rent fixing scandal, especially local elected officials and planners. When any of them has talked about it, they’ve claimed that zoning changes would make collusion impossible in, but this article does a good job of explaining why that’s not the case. Housing policy much close to this article (including upzoning) would lead to a much healthier market than we have now. YIMBYs should be shouting this from the rooftops but instead they’re either ignoring it or pushing their usual lines on deregulation and tax cuts.



That’s because some prominent YIYBYs have some very deep ties to Trumpworld.

https://cpsmartgrowth.com/about/


You linked to a page with the Chair of the Ward 3 Democrats on it who does a ton of work electing Democrats.
Anonymous
Post 09/13/2024 20:06     Subject: The DMV needs a YIMBY revolution

Anonymous
Anonymous
Post 09/13/2024 16:59     Subject: The DMV needs a YIMBY revolution

Anonymous wrote:The Harvard Business Review takes an evidence-filled bat to nearly every single YIMBY talking point. Just a complete takedown:

https://hbr.org/2024/09/the-market-alone-cant-fix-the-u-s-housing-crisis


Come on, who are you going to believe, the Harvard Business Review or some random blogs and Facebook posts written by awkward white millennials?

I’ll have you know that Greater Greater Washington is a highly respected blog format!
Anonymous
Post 09/13/2024 15:57     Subject: The DMV needs a YIMBY revolution

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Harvard Business Review takes an evidence-filled bat to nearly every single YIMBY talking point. Just a complete takedown:

https://hbr.org/2024/09/the-market-alone-cant-fix-the-u-s-housing-crisis


The YIMBYs have been nearly totally silent about the rent fixing scandal, especially local elected officials and planners. When any of them has talked about it, they’ve claimed that zoning changes would make collusion impossible in, but this article does a good job of explaining why that’s not the case. Housing policy much close to this article (including upzoning) would lead to a much healthier market than we have now. YIMBYs should be shouting this from the rooftops but instead they’re either ignoring it or pushing their usual lines on deregulation and tax cuts.



That’s because some prominent YIYBYs have some very deep ties to Trumpworld.

https://cpsmartgrowth.com/about/