Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If that’s the case then why so much talk here about which ECNL/GA teams are better? As long as you are on any of the teams they will be playing at the same events.
Well, everybody wants to be on a winning team, right? It’s fun to win and a lot of parents obviously enjoy bragging about how “awesome” their kids team is. This message board definitely attracts those type of people.
To your point, which I agree with, if your DC is playing in the Jeff Cup showcase weekend, for example, and coaches from a school that they’re interested in and have communicated that interest to are going to be there, they’re going to be able to see your player regardless of whether their team is playing in the top bracket, the bottom bracket or somewhere in between. Yes, the brackets are often spread out among different fields so that may require some traveling, but the point is, if a college coach is interested in you, they’re not going to say “oh no, your team isn’t in a high enough bracket so I’m not going to bother watching you play.” That’s not simply my opinion but rather my experience.
You have some good points. I agree that most parents care about winning instead of their kid's development. However, how does the college recruiter know which kid is good on what team? At Jeff Cup, there are a lot of teams playing. Most likely, the D1 scout will be looking at the top 2 or 3 divisions to spot which player they like. that alone is like 15-20 games for the weekend. I doubt they will be sitting and watching RL games at a lower bracket.
Scouts usually aren't just watching games blindly.
Don't the ECNL players do that, too? What makes you think the the scout will prefer watching ECNL players vs RL players?
Players and Parents contact College Coaches and hype their kid + GPA. If the coach likes what they see and needs a player in that role they'll check them out at a game.
For YNT scouts usually the DOCs at clubs give them recommendations. Sometimes they check out the player sometimes they just take the DOCs word and see how they do in an ID Camp.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:FCV players are out in large numbers at ECNL practices this week…
And so it begins...
There was a whole group of FCV girls at Union last night and parents wearing FCV gear not even trying to hide it
Wow. Big shake up for ECNL clubs next season. I wish them luck!
Every ECNL club will take the FCV players, it will help them round out our RL teams
It’s parents like these who ruin it for all of the other ECNL parents and give them bad names.
Just so you know I think only one player has defected at this point. She ended up taking a spot on the roster for Bethesda 2010 ECNL and that is probably the best team in our area for that age group.
You think you are funny now until someone like MT ends up at your club and plays the same position as your child/teen.
I’m sorry parents like this ruin it for all of the respectful and intelligent ECNL parents, truly.
Parents of ECNL players on "good" teams that win rarely even concern themselves with other leagues.
Parents of ECNL players on teams that get blown out week after week like going online to pick on someone they perceive as lesser than their kids team. It's how they feel better about getting shelled week after week.
Funny thing is if they played the top GA teams from around the nation, they'd still get shelled.
The rankings app does a pretty good job of giving a rough determination of how good teams are independent of the league they play in.
Yeah I've found the rankings app to be surprisingly accurate for the most part. Top Drawer's monthly top 25 rankings by age group is good too. Not perfect, but pretty close and way more accurate than the predictions by anonymous people on a message board.
TDS is bit biased. They're not entireley independent, they are influenced by money slightly IMO.
The rankings app isn't completely perfect and a lot of people have issue with ranking kids sports teams but its probably the best metric out there considering it takes a lot more data into account than GotSport. I also like that it gives club rankings as a whole as well, but the data there should always be taken for what it is and nothing more. For example, FCV has a pretty decent track record of being a top 100 girls club and all their teams are pretty highly ranked in VA, but now with all the incoming changes, who knows where they will be in a few years.
So true. IMHO anything you have to pay for isn't an unbiased opinion.
Rankings App is free for national rankings. If you want to see the odds for specific games you have to pay.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:FCV players are out in large numbers at ECNL practices this week…
And so it begins...
There was a whole group of FCV girls at Union last night and parents wearing FCV gear not even trying to hide it
Wow. Big shake up for ECNL clubs next season. I wish them luck!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:FCV players are out in large numbers at ECNL practices this week…
And so it begins...
There was a whole group of FCV girls at Union last night and parents wearing FCV gear not even trying to hide it
Wow. Big shake up for ECNL clubs next season. I wish them luck!
Every ECNL club will take the FCV players, it will help them round out our RL teams
It’s parents like these who ruin it for all of the other ECNL parents and give them bad names.
Just so you know I think only one player has defected at this point. She ended up taking a spot on the roster for Bethesda 2010 ECNL and that is probably the best team in our area for that age group.
You think you are funny now until someone like MT ends up at your club and plays the same position as your child/teen.
I’m sorry parents like this ruin it for all of the respectful and intelligent ECNL parents, truly.
Parents of ECNL players on "good" teams that win rarely even concern themselves with other leagues.
Parents of ECNL players on teams that get blown out week after week like going online to pick on someone they perceive as lesser than their kids team. It's how they feel better about getting shelled week after week.
Funny thing is if they played the top GA teams from around the nation, they'd still get shelled.
The rankings app does a pretty good job of giving a rough determination of how good teams are independent of the league they play in.
Yeah I've found the rankings app to be surprisingly accurate for the most part. Top Drawer's monthly top 25 rankings by age group is good too. Not perfect, but pretty close and way more accurate than the predictions by anonymous people on a message board.
TDS is bit biased. They're not entireley independent, they are influenced by money slightly IMO.
The rankings app isn't completely perfect and a lot of people have issue with ranking kids sports teams but its probably the best metric out there considering it takes a lot more data into account than GotSport. I also like that it gives club rankings as a whole as well, but the data there should always be taken for what it is and nothing more. For example, FCV has a pretty decent track record of being a top 100 girls club and all their teams are pretty highly ranked in VA, but now with all the incoming changes, who knows where they will be in a few years.
So true. IMHO anything you have to pay for isn't an unbiased opinion.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:FCV players are out in large numbers at ECNL practices this week…
And so it begins...
There was a whole group of FCV girls at Union last night and parents wearing FCV gear not even trying to hide it
Wow. Big shake up for ECNL clubs next season. I wish them luck!
Every ECNL club will take the FCV players, it will help them round out our RL teams
It’s parents like these who ruin it for all of the other ECNL parents and give them bad names.
Just so you know I think only one player has defected at this point. She ended up taking a spot on the roster for Bethesda 2010 ECNL and that is probably the best team in our area for that age group.
You think you are funny now until someone like MT ends up at your club and plays the same position as your child/teen.
what ranking apps are you using?
I’m sorry parents like this ruin it for all of the respectful and intelligent ECNL parents, truly.
Parents of ECNL players on "good" teams that win rarely even concern themselves with other leagues.
Parents of ECNL players on teams that get blown out week after week like going online to pick on someone they perceive as lesser than their kids team. It's how they feel better about getting shelled week after week.
Funny thing is if they played the top GA teams from around the nation, they'd still get shelled.
The rankings app does a pretty good job of giving a rough determination of how good teams are independent of the league they play in.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I honestly can't see any of the girls "following" BP anywhere. My bet they start driving to McLean. They will happily trade VT for Georgetown.
This makes the most sense of the scenarios presented. Nobody wants to drive to Springfield or Woodbridge if McLean is in the backyard with strong teams and coaching staff.
Why specifically McLean? Ya'll forget that there's an ECNL club literally a stone's throw away? Some of the girls can and will go there and claim some of those roster spots in the fall.
Tell me you know nothing about college commitment history without telling me. McLean has a huge legacy of outstanding soccer scholarships to top tier schools. The other ECNL team does not. It's too new and too "beginner status". They don't win much.
Don't win much???
NVA 07s > Union 07s
NVA 08s >>> Union 08s
NVA 09s >>>>> Union 09s
Union 07s have some of the wealthiest families in all of DMV. If you think some of those players are getting scholarships instead of just a roster spot because mommy and daddy are making a "donations", you need to do some research. NVA's 07s are it's first strong group of of commits and just the beginning. NVA 08s and 09s will have better commits in both years coming. Those are two very weak year for Union. Sorry if truth hurts but you shouldn't act like such a pr1ck.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:FCV players are out in large numbers at ECNL practices this week…
And so it begins...
There was a whole group of FCV girls at Union last night and parents wearing FCV gear not even trying to hide it
Wow. Big shake up for ECNL clubs next season. I wish them luck!
Every ECNL club will take the FCV players, it will help them round out our RL teams
It’s parents like these who ruin it for all of the other ECNL parents and give them bad names.
Just so you know I think only one player has defected at this point. She ended up taking a spot on the roster for Bethesda 2010 ECNL and that is probably the best team in our area for that age group.
You think you are funny now until someone like MT ends up at your club and plays the same position as your child/teen.
I’m sorry parents like this ruin it for all of the respectful and intelligent ECNL parents, truly.
Parents of ECNL players on "good" teams that win rarely even concern themselves with other leagues.
Parents of ECNL players on teams that get blown out week after week like going online to pick on someone they perceive as lesser than their kids team. It's how they feel better about getting shelled week after week.
Funny thing is if they played the top GA teams from around the nation, they'd still get shelled.
The rankings app does a pretty good job of giving a rough determination of how good teams are independent of the league they play in.
Yeah I've found the rankings app to be surprisingly accurate for the most part. Top Drawer's monthly top 25 rankings by age group is good too. Not perfect, but pretty close and way more accurate than the predictions by anonymous people on a message board.
TDS is bit biased. They're not entireley independent, they are influenced by money slightly IMO.
The rankings app isn't completely perfect and a lot of people have issue with ranking kids sports teams but its probably the best metric out there considering it takes a lot more data into account than GotSport. I also like that it gives club rankings as a whole as well, but the data there should always be taken for what it is and nothing more. For example, FCV has a pretty decent track record of being a top 100 girls club and all their teams are pretty highly ranked in VA, but now with all the incoming changes, who knows where they will be in a few years.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:FCV players are out in large numbers at ECNL practices this week…
And so it begins...
There was a whole group of FCV girls at Union last night and parents wearing FCV gear not even trying to hide it
Wow. Big shake up for ECNL clubs next season. I wish them luck!
Every ECNL club will take the FCV players, it will help them round out our RL teams
It’s parents like these who ruin it for all of the other ECNL parents and give them bad names.
Just so you know I think only one player has defected at this point. She ended up taking a spot on the roster for Bethesda 2010 ECNL and that is probably the best team in our area for that age group.
You think you are funny now until someone like MT ends up at your club and plays the same position as your child/teen.
I’m sorry parents like this ruin it for all of the respectful and intelligent ECNL parents, truly.
Parents of ECNL players on "good" teams that win rarely even concern themselves with other leagues.
Parents of ECNL players on teams that get blown out week after week like going online to pick on someone they perceive as lesser than their kids team. It's how they feel better about getting shelled week after week.
Funny thing is if they played the top GA teams from around the nation, they'd still get shelled.
The rankings app does a pretty good job of giving a rough determination of how good teams are independent of the league they play in.
Yeah I've found the rankings app to be surprisingly accurate for the most part. Top Drawer's monthly top 25 rankings by age group is good too. Not perfect, but pretty close and way more accurate than the predictions by anonymous people on a message board.
Anonymous wrote:Yes but why did it sound like getting a 50% scholarship to william and mary is not a good thing?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:FCV players are out in large numbers at ECNL practices this week…
And so it begins...
There was a whole group of FCV girls at Union last night and parents wearing FCV gear not even trying to hide it
Wow. Big shake up for ECNL clubs next season. I wish them luck!
Every ECNL club will take the FCV players, it will help them round out our RL teams
It’s parents like these who ruin it for all of the other ECNL parents and give them bad names.
Just so you know I think only one player has defected at this point. She ended up taking a spot on the roster for Bethesda 2010 ECNL and that is probably the best team in our area for that age group.
You think you are funny now until someone like MT ends up at your club and plays the same position as your child/teen.
I’m sorry parents like this ruin it for all of the respectful and intelligent ECNL parents, truly.
Parents of ECNL players on "good" teams that win rarely even concern themselves with other leagues.
Parents of ECNL players on teams that get blown out week after week like going online to pick on someone they perceive as lesser than their kids team. It's how they feel better about getting shelled week after week.
Funny thing is if they played the top GA teams from around the nation, they'd still get shelled.
The rankings app does a pretty good job of giving a rough determination of how good teams are independent of the league they play in.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:FCV players are out in large numbers at ECNL practices this week…
And so it begins...
There was a whole group of FCV girls at Union last night and parents wearing FCV gear not even trying to hide it
Wow. Big shake up for ECNL clubs next season. I wish them luck!
Every ECNL club will take the FCV players, it will help them round out our RL teams
It’s parents like these who ruin it for all of the other ECNL parents and give them bad names.
Just so you know I think only one player has defected at this point. She ended up taking a spot on the roster for Bethesda 2010 ECNL and that is probably the best team in our area for that age group.
You think you are funny now until someone like MT ends up at your club and plays the same position as your child/teen.
I’m sorry parents like this ruin it for all of the respectful and intelligent ECNL parents, truly.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For FCV families that are looking to make a switch to an ECNL team, take a look at the Jeff Cup Accepted Teams and see how they see things
GA champions cup is the week before..that is why there aren’t many ga clubs going. Try again
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:FCV players are out in large numbers at ECNL practices this week…
And so it begins...
There was a whole group of FCV girls at Union last night and parents wearing FCV gear not even trying to hide it
Wow. Big shake up for ECNL clubs next season. I wish them luck!
Every ECNL club will take the FCV players, it will help them round out our RL teams
It’s parents like these who ruin it for all of the other ECNL parents and give them bad names.
Just so you know I think only one player has defected at this point. She ended up taking a spot on the roster for Bethesda 2010 ECNL and that is probably the best team in our area for that age group.
You think you are funny now until someone like MT ends up at your club and plays the same position as your child/teen.
I’m sorry parents like this ruin it for all of the respectful and intelligent ECNL parents, truly.
Anonymous wrote:For FCV families that are looking to make a switch to an ECNL team, take a look at the Jeff Cup Accepted Teams and see how they see things