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Anonymous wrote:And the “vote Biden or you’re a Trumper” folks need to realize that, should Biden lose in ‘24, no one is going to wring their hands about how they voted third party.

They’re going to say— we told you a year ago you were on the wrong path. We yelled it. We screamed it. We said it in polls. And you ignored us at your peril.

Here’s the one year warning: do better. Stop marginalizing people. Stop characterizing criticism and dissent as Trumpism.

Because no matter how many times you say “blue no matter who” you will have no one to blame but yourselves. Everyone sees this coming.

I think the polling data from the past few weeks is something the DNC won't ignore. The alarm bells are ringing. It will be interesting to see the messaging that comes out of the Biden campaign in the coming weeks. If there is any chance of Biden being convinced to back out of the race for a second term, it would be best if that decision and announcement is made much sooner than later. If Biden were replaced by a normal candidate, the RNC's hand could be forced into getting Trump off the ticket mode as they will quickly realize Trump would have zero chance against a normal Dem candidate.

I will not vote for a Democratic presidential candidate unless they present a transition team free of neocon members from the Biden and Obama admins.

But you will be happy to enable the rise of a Christian-fascist leader in the alternative. Bravo!

The lesser of two evils.

I suppose if you are a White Christian, then sure. For the rest of us, not so much.

Was it the mean tweets? Because the world was a safer, less violent and more prosperous place under Trump.

Hmm those riots at the capital were pretty peaceful as well as protests at Charlottesville with the tiki torches.

Those Tiki Torches in Charlottesville are almost quaint compared to some of the things I’ve heard people who are in MY party say about Jews like me in the last three weeks. I’m stepping back from thinking of myself as a moderate Democrat. I’ve seen what other people who also describe themselves as moderate Democrats are saying about me, and we are not the same people. I’m not even sure we’re the same species at this point. I’m no5 prone to dramatics like burning voter registration cards or anything, but I’m going to be changing the way I vote. I hope Ron DeSantis is the republican nominee next year, because if he is, I’m voting for him and will do my best to convince everyone I know to vote for him too. I might even vote for Trump, if the choice is between Trump and Biden, because the Democratic Party needs a housecleaning event and losing everything might be what’s necessary to achieve it. So be it.

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Anonymous wrote:And the “vote Biden or you’re a Trumper” folks need to realize that, should Biden lose in ‘24, no one is going to wring their hands about how they voted third party.

They’re going to say— we told you a year ago you were on the wrong path. We yelled it. We screamed it. We said it in polls. And you ignored us at your peril.

Here’s the one year warning: do better. Stop marginalizing people. Stop characterizing criticism and dissent as Trumpism.

Because no matter how many times you say “blue no matter who” you will have no one to blame but yourselves. Everyone sees this coming.

I think the polling data from the past few weeks is something the DNC won't ignore. The alarm bells are ringing. It will be interesting to see the messaging that comes out of the Biden campaign in the coming weeks. If there is any chance of Biden being convinced to back out of the race for a second term, it would be best if that decision and announcement is made much sooner than later. If Biden were replaced by a normal candidate, the RNC's hand could be forced into getting Trump off the ticket mode as they will quickly realize Trump would have zero chance against a normal Dem candidate.

I will not vote for a Democratic presidential candidate unless they present a transition team free of neocon members from the Biden and Obama admins.

But you will be happy to enable the rise of a Christian-fascist leader in the alternative. Bravo!

The lesser of two evils.

I suppose if you are a White Christian, then sure. For the rest of us, not so much.

Was it the mean tweets? Because the world was a safer, less violent and more prosperous place under Trump.

Hmm those riots at the capital were pretty peaceful as well as protests at Charlottesville with the tiki torches.

Magnitude much? And whose in the driver’s seat on these events?

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Anonymous wrote:To everyone who insists the very possibility of Trump’s return means all thoughtful people must support Biden! I don’t necessarily think Trump would do better, but I doubt he would be all that much worse. What would be a little better is the rhetoric of the blue no matter who crowd, they’d then at least hint at pushing back against the powerful. But with a Democrat in the White House, the blue-no-matter-who-crowd give the powerful have blank check, including doing Trump-like things including building a wall, detaining kids, and arming the Israeli right for an all-out MENA war!

The Democrats are Ho-hum in opposition, but an absolute horror show in power.

I have one criterion for a President: they must leave if/when they lose an election.

Everything after that is gravy.

If that’s all that matters to you, you deserve to loose. There are so many more awful things to be concerned about, you are just declaring you have almost no conscience.

Given, you know, all of recorded history, I'd say that peaceful transition of power is of the utmost importance.

Your disdain for it shows that you have almost no knowledge of history.

That you think you have any idea what I know of history shows you are delusional.

That your ‘peaceful transfer of power’ is the only thing you value, makes you an obvious simpleton. It’s a good thing to have, but you have to be intellectually moribund, even by the standards of our middlebrow establishment, to think that’s all that matters.

The problem is, the opposite of that is that you are ok with the loser of an election not vacating office, or worse, using armed militas to retain power. That is what you are supporting.

Psst: I’ve just been taking issue with the idea that it’s all that matters. That idea is ridiculous.

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I don't believe Trump would handle this situation better. I do believe there would be a high, if not certain, likelihood that we would not be in this position.

Oh really? How - with his awesomeness? Reminder: he threw fuel on the fire by moving the US embassy to Jerusalem, thereby removing the US as a good faith arbiter.

DP.

My cynical side says he would throw Ukraine to Russia, in exchange for Israel (iran and Russia fund Hamas).

Ukraine would never be invaded on Trump's watch. They would negotiate some kind of deal. Russia would keep the occupy territory (that they still have despite almost two years of war), but at least there would not be thousands of dead Ukrainians and millions of displayed Ukrainians.

You are so completely full of sh*t!!

Trump would hand over Ukraine on a silver platter to Putin.

Whom do you think is behind Hamas' invasion of Israel? Whom do you think benefits most from this new Hamas-Israel war? Whom do you think continues to fund Iran who in turn funds Hamas?

Putin is Trump's best friend.

And you are going to vote to destroy Ukraine and allow Palestinians to be slaughtered because you're "whine, whine" upset with Biden?

I don't care what you do if it doesn't affect me, but if Trump wins because whiny complainers like you can't face the reality that Trump is tied to Putin who wants to destroy the US, well, I beg you to reconsider.

If Trum would hand over Ukraine on a silver platter to Putin, why he didn't do that in 4 years of his presidency? Ukraine is already destroyed to ashes and it takes at least 20 years to rebuilt. And this destruction happened on Biden watch. And I am Ukrainian by the way.

Then there wouldn't be any more Ukraine. Then what? Poland? The Baltic states? Where would it stop? Ukraine is a soveriegn country with defined borders and recognized around the world as such. It isn't ok for one country to just come in an annex it or simply eradicate it.

You really don't understand Putin's strategy.

Uh, Putin has made his strategy quite clear. Perhaps you are not paying attention.

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I don't believe Trump would handle this situation better. I do believe there would be a high, if not certain, likelihood that we would not be in this position.

Oh really? How - with his awesomeness? Reminder: he threw fuel on the fire by moving the US embassy to Jerusalem, thereby removing the US as a good faith arbiter.

DP.

My cynical side says he would throw Ukraine to Russia, in exchange for Israel (iran and Russia fund Hamas).

Ukraine would never be invaded on Trump's watch. They would negotiate some kind of deal. Russia would keep the occupy territory (that they still have despite almost two years of war), but at least there would not be thousands of dead Ukrainians and millions of displayed Ukrainians.

You are so completely full of sh*t!!

Trump would hand over Ukraine on a silver platter to Putin.

Whom do you think is behind Hamas' invasion of Israel? Whom do you think benefits most from this new Hamas-Israel war? Whom do you think continues to fund Iran who in turn funds Hamas?

Putin is Trump's best friend.

And you are going to vote to destroy Ukraine and allow Palestinians to be slaughtered because you're "whine, whine" upset with Biden?

I don't care what you do if it doesn't affect me, but if Trump wins because whiny complainers like you can't face the reality that Trump is tied to Putin who wants to destroy the US, well, I beg you to reconsider.

If Trum would hand over Ukraine on a silver platter to Putin, why he didn't do that in 4 years of his presidency? Ukraine is already destroyed to ashes and it takes at least 20 years to rebuilt. And this destruction happened on Biden watch. And I am Ukrainian by the way.

Trump was giving Ukraine to Russia peacefully. No need to invade. He was working to end NATO, he removed Masha Yovanovitch, the honest pro-Ukrainian anti-corruption US Ambassador, sent Giuliani and Sondland and Perry there to negotiate deals to allow corrupt Americans and Russian oligarchs take control of Ukrainian oil and gas, and he completely accepted Putin’s idiotic position that any place where Russian is spoken rightly belongs to Russia. His Ukraine policies represented Russia’s interests more than they represented U.S. interests.

This is just CNN side of the story. There is much more to that. Calling Yovanovtch honest and anti-corruption is laughable. She was clueless how to deal with the Ukrainian level of corruption.

It isn't the "CNN side of the story" - it is the story based on facts - emails, testimony, video etc.

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Anonymous wrote:And the “vote Biden or you’re a Trumper” folks need to realize that, should Biden lose in ‘24, no one is going to wring their hands about how they voted third party.

They’re going to say— we told you a year ago you were on the wrong path. We yelled it. We screamed it. We said it in polls. And you ignored us at your peril.

Here’s the one year warning: do better. Stop marginalizing people. Stop characterizing criticism and dissent as Trumpism.

Because no matter how many times you say “blue no matter who” you will have no one to blame but yourselves. Everyone sees this coming.

I think the polling data from the past few weeks is something the DNC won't ignore. The alarm bells are ringing. It will be interesting to see the messaging that comes out of the Biden campaign in the coming weeks. If there is any chance of Biden being convinced to back out of the race for a second term, it would be best if that decision and announcement is made much sooner than later. If Biden were replaced by a normal candidate, the RNC's hand could be forced into getting Trump off the ticket mode as they will quickly realize Trump would have zero chance against a normal Dem candidate.

I will not vote for a Democratic presidential candidate unless they present a transition team free of neocon members from the Biden and Obama admins.

But you will be happy to enable the rise of a Christian-fascist leader in the alternative. Bravo!

The lesser of two evils.

I suppose if you are a White Christian, then sure. For the rest of us, not so much.

DP but I agree with PP. And I am not Christian and not white.

Then you should look forward to the Leopards Eating Faces Party.

Perhaps. I am just tired of the name calling party. It is time to try something new, did not work for us last time.

You’re literally going to ignore Donald Trump in favor of calling the Democrats “the name calling party”? Huh.

I’m a DP than your quoting but yes, I’m going to ignore Donald Trump right now. He’s not the person you’re yelling I need to vote for and— a year from now— he may or may not be on the ballot.

So instead of telling us about leopards eating faces, tell us how Joe Biden is going to earn our votes.

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Anonymous wrote:And the “vote Biden or you’re a Trumper” folks need to realize that, should Biden lose in ‘24, no one is going to wring their hands about how they voted third party.

They’re going to say— we told you a year ago you were on the wrong path. We yelled it. We screamed it. We said it in polls. And you ignored us at your peril.

Here’s the one year warning: do better. Stop marginalizing people. Stop characterizing criticism and dissent as Trumpism.

Because no matter how many times you say “blue no matter who” you will have no one to blame but yourselves. Everyone sees this coming.

I think the polling data from the past few weeks is something the DNC won't ignore. The alarm bells are ringing. It will be interesting to see the messaging that comes out of the Biden campaign in the coming weeks. If there is any chance of Biden being convinced to back out of the race for a second term, it would be best if that decision and announcement is made much sooner than later. If Biden were replaced by a normal candidate, the RNC's hand could be forced into getting Trump off the ticket mode as they will quickly realize Trump would have zero chance against a normal Dem candidate.

I will not vote for a Democratic presidential candidate unless they present a transition team free of neocon members from the Biden and Obama admins.

But you will be happy to enable the rise of a Christian-fascist leader in the alternative. Bravo!

The lesser of two evils.

I suppose if you are a White Christian, then sure. For the rest of us, not so much.

DP but I agree with PP. And I am not Christian and not white.

Then you should look forward to the Leopards Eating Faces Party.

Perhaps. I am just tired of the name calling party. It is time to try something new, did not work for us last time.

You’re literally going to ignore Donald Trump in favor of calling the Democrats “the name calling party”? Huh.

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Anonymous wrote:And the “vote Biden or you’re a Trumper” folks need to realize that, should Biden lose in ‘24, no one is going to wring their hands about how they voted third party.

They’re going to say— we told you a year ago you were on the wrong path. We yelled it. We screamed it. We said it in polls. And you ignored us at your peril.

Here’s the one year warning: do better. Stop marginalizing people. Stop characterizing criticism and dissent as Trumpism.

Because no matter how many times you say “blue no matter who” you will have no one to blame but yourselves. Everyone sees this coming.

I think the polling data from the past few weeks is something the DNC won't ignore. The alarm bells are ringing. It will be interesting to see the messaging that comes out of the Biden campaign in the coming weeks. If there is any chance of Biden being convinced to back out of the race for a second term, it would be best if that decision and announcement is made much sooner than later. If Biden were replaced by a normal candidate, the RNC's hand could be forced into getting Trump off the ticket mode as they will quickly realize Trump would have zero chance against a normal Dem candidate.

I will not vote for a Democratic presidential candidate unless they present a transition team free of neocon members from the Biden and Obama admins.

But you will be happy to enable the rise of a Christian-fascist leader in the alternative. Bravo!

The lesser of two evils.

I suppose if you are a White Christian, then sure. For the rest of us, not so much.

Was it the mean tweets? Because the world was a safer, less violent and more prosperous place under Trump.

Hmm those riots at the capital were pretty peaceful as well as protests at Charlottesville with the tiki torches.

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Anonymous wrote:And the “vote Biden or you’re a Trumper” folks need to realize that, should Biden lose in ‘24, no one is going to wring their hands about how they voted third party.

They’re going to say— we told you a year ago you were on the wrong path. We yelled it. We screamed it. We said it in polls. And you ignored us at your peril.

Here’s the one year warning: do better. Stop marginalizing people. Stop characterizing criticism and dissent as Trumpism.

Because no matter how many times you say “blue no matter who” you will have no one to blame but yourselves. Everyone sees this coming.

I think the polling data from the past few weeks is something the DNC won't ignore. The alarm bells are ringing. It will be interesting to see the messaging that comes out of the Biden campaign in the coming weeks. If there is any chance of Biden being convinced to back out of the race for a second term, it would be best if that decision and announcement is made much sooner than later. If Biden were replaced by a normal candidate, the RNC's hand could be forced into getting Trump off the ticket mode as they will quickly realize Trump would have zero chance against a normal Dem candidate.

I will not vote for a Democratic presidential candidate unless they present a transition team free of neocon members from the Biden and Obama admins.

But you will be happy to enable the rise of a Christian-fascist leader in the alternative. Bravo!

The lesser of two evils.

I suppose if you are a White Christian, then sure. For the rest of us, not so much.

DP but I agree with PP. And I am not Christian and not white.

Then you should look forward to the Leopards Eating Faces Party.

Perhaps. I am just tired of the name calling party. It is time to try something new, did not work for us last time.

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I don't believe Trump would handle this situation better. I do believe there would be a high, if not certain, likelihood that we would not be in this position.

Oh really? How - with his awesomeness? Reminder: he threw fuel on the fire by moving the US embassy to Jerusalem, thereby removing the US as a good faith arbiter.

DP.

My cynical side says he would throw Ukraine to Russia, in exchange for Israel (iran and Russia fund Hamas).

Ukraine would never be invaded on Trump's watch. They would negotiate some kind of deal. Russia would keep the occupy territory (that they still have despite almost two years of war), but at least there would not be thousands of dead Ukrainians and millions of displayed Ukrainians.

You are so completely full of sh*t!!

Trump would hand over Ukraine on a silver platter to Putin.

Whom do you think is behind Hamas' invasion of Israel? Whom do you think benefits most from this new Hamas-Israel war? Whom do you think continues to fund Iran who in turn funds Hamas?

Putin is Trump's best friend.

And you are going to vote to destroy Ukraine and allow Palestinians to be slaughtered because you're "whine, whine" upset with Biden?

I don't care what you do if it doesn't affect me, but if Trump wins because whiny complainers like you can't face the reality that Trump is tied to Putin who wants to destroy the US, well, I beg you to reconsider.

If Trum would hand over Ukraine on a silver platter to Putin, why he didn't do that in 4 years of his presidency? Ukraine is already destroyed to ashes and it takes at least 20 years to rebuilt. And this destruction happened on Biden watch. And I am Ukrainian by the way.

Then there wouldn't be any more Ukraine. Then what? Poland? The Baltic states? Where would it stop? Ukraine is a soveriegn country with defined borders and recognized around the world as such. It isn't ok for one country to just come in an annex it or simply eradicate it.

You really don't understand Putin's strategy.

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Anonymous wrote:To everyone who insists the very possibility of Trump’s return means all thoughtful people must support Biden! I don’t necessarily think Trump would do better, but I doubt he would be all that much worse. What would be a little better is the rhetoric of the blue no matter who crowd, they’d then at least hint at pushing back against the powerful. But with a Democrat in the White House, the blue-no-matter-who-crowd give the powerful have blank check, including doing Trump-like things including building a wall, detaining kids, and arming the Israeli right for an all-out MENA war!

The Democrats are Ho-hum in opposition, but an absolute horror show in power.

I have one criterion for a President: they must leave if/when they lose an election.

Everything after that is gravy.

If that’s all that matters to you, you deserve to loose. There are so many more awful things to be concerned about, you are just declaring you have almost no conscience.

Given, you know, all of recorded history, I'd say that peaceful transition of power is of the utmost importance.

Your disdain for it shows that you have almost no knowledge of history.

That you think you have any idea what I know of history shows you are delusional.

That your ‘peaceful transfer of power’ is the only thing you value, makes you an obvious simpleton. It’s a good thing to have, but you have to be intellectually moribund, even by the standards of our middlebrow establishment, to think that’s all that matters.

Your two hours with the thesaurus was well spent.

Your inability to ascertain the underlying point, however, remains problematic.

Cheers.

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I don't believe Trump would handle this situation better. I do believe there would be a high, if not certain, likelihood that we would not be in this position.

Oh really? How - with his awesomeness? Reminder: he threw fuel on the fire by moving the US embassy to Jerusalem, thereby removing the US as a good faith arbiter.

DP.

My cynical side says he would throw Ukraine to Russia, in exchange for Israel (iran and Russia fund Hamas).

Ukraine would never be invaded on Trump's watch. They would negotiate some kind of deal. Russia would keep the occupy territory (that they still have despite almost two years of war), but at least there would not be thousands of dead Ukrainians and millions of displayed Ukrainians.

You are so completely full of sh*t!!

Trump would hand over Ukraine on a silver platter to Putin.

Whom do you think is behind Hamas' invasion of Israel? Whom do you think benefits most from this new Hamas-Israel war? Whom do you think continues to fund Iran who in turn funds Hamas?

Putin is Trump's best friend.

And you are going to vote to destroy Ukraine and allow Palestinians to be slaughtered because you're "whine, whine" upset with Biden?

I don't care what you do if it doesn't affect me, but if Trump wins because whiny complainers like you can't face the reality that Trump is tied to Putin who wants to destroy the US, well, I beg you to reconsider.

If Trum would hand over Ukraine on a silver platter to Putin, why he didn't do that in 4 years of his presidency? Ukraine is already destroyed to ashes and it takes at least 20 years to rebuilt. And this destruction happened on Biden watch. And I am Ukrainian by the way.

Trump was giving Ukraine to Russia peacefully. No need to invade. He was working to end NATO, he removed Masha Yovanovitch, the honest pro-Ukrainian anti-corruption US Ambassador, sent Giuliani and Sondland and Perry there to negotiate deals to allow corrupt Americans and Russian oligarchs take control of Ukrainian oil and gas, and he completely accepted Putin’s idiotic position that any place where Russian is spoken rightly belongs to Russia. His Ukraine policies represented Russia’s interests more than they represented U.S. interests.

This is just CNN side of the story. There is much more to that. Calling Yovanovtch honest and anti-corruption is laughable. She was clueless how to deal with the Ukrainian level of corruption.

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Anonymous wrote:To everyone who insists the very possibility of Trump’s return means all thoughtful people must support Biden! I don’t necessarily think Trump would do better, but I doubt he would be all that much worse. What would be a little better is the rhetoric of the blue no matter who crowd, they’d then at least hint at pushing back against the powerful. But with a Democrat in the White House, the blue-no-matter-who-crowd give the powerful have blank check, including doing Trump-like things including building a wall, detaining kids, and arming the Israeli right for an all-out MENA war!

The Democrats are Ho-hum in opposition, but an absolute horror show in power.

I have one criterion for a President: they must leave if/when they lose an election.

Everything after that is gravy.

If that’s all that matters to you, you deserve to loose. There are so many more awful things to be concerned about, you are just declaring you have almost no conscience.

Given, you know, all of recorded history, I'd say that peaceful transition of power is of the utmost importance.

Your disdain for it shows that you have almost no knowledge of history.

That you think you have any idea what I know of history shows you are delusional.

That your ‘peaceful transfer of power’ is the only thing you value, makes you an obvious simpleton. It’s a good thing to have, but you have to be intellectually moribund, even by the standards of our middlebrow establishment, to think that’s all that matters.

The problem is, the opposite of that is that you are ok with the loser of an election not vacating office, or worse, using armed militas to retain power. That is what you are supporting.

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Anonymous wrote:What more support for women do you want, without a Senate willing to pass a Roe Bill?

I have laid it out earlier in the thread. All stuff he could do tomorrow.

The idea that Biden and admin, a group that have no red lines on brutality, are going to care about women, is laughable. You are useful but expandable. The border is opened to allow a more compliant replacement.

You might just be a Republican.

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I don't believe Trump would handle this situation better. I do believe there would be a high, if not certain, likelihood that we would not be in this position.

Oh really? How - with his awesomeness? Reminder: he threw fuel on the fire by moving the US embassy to Jerusalem, thereby removing the US as a good faith arbiter.

DP.

My cynical side says he would throw Ukraine to Russia, in exchange for Israel (iran and Russia fund Hamas).

Ukraine would never be invaded on Trump's watch. They would negotiate some kind of deal. Russia would keep the occupy territory (that they still have despite almost two years of war), but at least there would not be thousands of dead Ukrainians and millions of displayed Ukrainians.

You are so completely full of sh*t!!

Trump would hand over Ukraine on a silver platter to Putin.

Whom do you think is behind Hamas' invasion of Israel? Whom do you think benefits most from this new Hamas-Israel war? Whom do you think continues to fund Iran who in turn funds Hamas?

Putin is Trump's best friend.

And you are going to vote to destroy Ukraine and allow Palestinians to be slaughtered because you're "whine, whine" upset with Biden?

I don't care what you do if it doesn't affect me, but if Trump wins because whiny complainers like you can't face the reality that Trump is tied to Putin who wants to destroy the US, well, I beg you to reconsider.

If Trum would hand over Ukraine on a silver platter to Putin, why he didn't do that in 4 years of his presidency? Ukraine is already destroyed to ashes and it takes at least 20 years to rebuilt. And this destruction happened on Biden watch. And I am Ukrainian by the way.

Trump was giving Ukraine to Russia peacefully. No need to invade. He was working to end NATO, he removed Masha Yovanovitch, the honest pro-Ukrainian anti-corruption US Ambassador, sent Giuliani and Sondland and Perry there to negotiate deals to allow corrupt Americans and Russian oligarchs take control of Ukrainian oil and gas, and he completely accepted Putin’s idiotic position that any place where Russian is spoken rightly belongs to Russia. His Ukraine policies represented Russia’s interests more than they represented U.S. interests.