Anonymous
05/02/2023 17:09
Subject: Re:Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
They are using NATO models for estimating casualties. Obviously, it's impossible to have a 100 percent accurate count in a war of this scale where more than a 1000 soldiers on both sides are dying every day. Ukraine has admitted to presently having more than 7500 MIAs, presumably dead. God knows how many Russians are presently fertilizing Ukrainian land.
But I think Ukraine has a pretty good internal sense of what the true casualty count is. That being said, I would take their public statements with a grain of salt. I believe they're publicly stating that roughly 195,000 Russian soldiers have been killed. That's probably not quite true. 195,000 total Russian casualties - killed and injured - is probably more accurate. 1:2 KIA vs injured is probably a reasonable ratio since Russian battlefield medical is nonexistent and without air superiority they can't do air medevacs. Given that the Russians started with an invading force of 200,000 this has been an absolute catastrophe for them. Of course, it's been awful for Ukrainians too but they are fighting for their families and their homes and they will endure it until the last man standing. It's a grim war and it's only going to get worse in the months ahead.
I hate to break it to you but there is a chunk of Ukraine that doesn't care who rules it, as long as the shooting stops. Independence is a goal for many Ukrainians but not all.
You are very wrong about that. This war has changed everything, even among the Russian speakers in Ukraine. No one in Ukraine will accept Russian domination at this point. Too much has changed. Too much death. Too much destruction. Too many war crimes. There are many, many native Russian speaking Ukrainians fighting with the AFU. As for the circa-2014 separatist fighters from Donetsk and Luhansk, they're all dead now.
EVERYONE in Ukraine is a Russian speaker. What is this "Russian speakers" in Ukraine, as if there is any such thing as a non-Russian-speaking Ukrainian.
There's a difference between speaking Russian, and it being your native language. The majority of Ukrainians consider Ukrainian as their native language.
But, the Russian invasion burned away any delusions anyone might have had that they could live peacefully with Russia, even if they considered themselves ethnically Russian. The Russians invaders were happy to murder, rape and loot their way through Russian-speaking areas in eastern Ukraine.
This is correct. There are some oblasts in the east that were predominantly native Russian speakers but the remainder is predominantly Ukrainian speaking, and in places like Kharkiv, though native Russian speaking, they no longer have much of any sympathy or allegiance or sense of brotherhood to Russia, due to the war. Russian conduct since the invasion has brought them nothing but anger and resentment. Also remember that in in 1991, in EVERY oblast, including Crimea, Donetsk and Luhansk, overwhelmingly voted to split and become an independent and sovereign Ukraine, and did not want to be part of the Russian Federation.
The post wasn't about native Russian speakers or sympathy or allegiance to Russia. It mentioned Russian speakers, full stop. The fact of the matter is that an overwhelming majority of Ukrainians (meaning citizens of Ukraine, not ethnic Ukrainians) speak Russian and are therefore Russian speakers. That is an actual fact.
Anonymous
05/02/2023 16:53
Subject: Re:Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
They are using NATO models for estimating casualties. Obviously, it's impossible to have a 100 percent accurate count in a war of this scale where more than a 1000 soldiers on both sides are dying every day. Ukraine has admitted to presently having more than 7500 MIAs, presumably dead. God knows how many Russians are presently fertilizing Ukrainian land.
But I think Ukraine has a pretty good internal sense of what the true casualty count is. That being said, I would take their public statements with a grain of salt. I believe they're publicly stating that roughly 195,000 Russian soldiers have been killed. That's probably not quite true. 195,000 total Russian casualties - killed and injured - is probably more accurate. 1:2 KIA vs injured is probably a reasonable ratio since Russian battlefield medical is nonexistent and without air superiority they can't do air medevacs. Given that the Russians started with an invading force of 200,000 this has been an absolute catastrophe for them. Of course, it's been awful for Ukrainians too but they are fighting for their families and their homes and they will endure it until the last man standing. It's a grim war and it's only going to get worse in the months ahead.
I hate to break it to you but there is a chunk of Ukraine that doesn't care who rules it, as long as the shooting stops. Independence is a goal for many Ukrainians but not all.
You are very wrong about that. This war has changed everything, even among the Russian speakers in Ukraine. No one in Ukraine will accept Russian domination at this point. Too much has changed. Too much death. Too much destruction. Too many war crimes. There are many, many native Russian speaking Ukrainians fighting with the AFU. As for the circa-2014 separatist fighters from Donetsk and Luhansk, they're all dead now.
EVERYONE in Ukraine is a Russian speaker. What is this "Russian speakers" in Ukraine, as if there is any such thing as a non-Russian-speaking Ukrainian.
There's a difference between speaking Russian, and it being your native language. The majority of Ukrainians consider Ukrainian as their native language.
But, the Russian invasion burned away any delusions anyone might have had that they could live peacefully with Russia, even if they considered themselves ethnically Russian. The Russians invaders were happy to murder, rape and loot their way through Russian-speaking areas in eastern Ukraine.
This is correct. There are some oblasts in the east that were predominantly native Russian speakers but the remainder is predominantly Ukrainian speaking, and in places like Kharkiv, though native Russian speaking, they no longer have much of any sympathy or allegiance or sense of brotherhood to Russia, due to the war. Russian conduct since the invasion has brought them nothing but anger and resentment. Also remember that in in 1991, in EVERY oblast, including Crimea, Donetsk and Luhansk, overwhelmingly voted to split and become an independent and sovereign Ukraine, and did not want to be part of the Russian Federation.
Anonymous
05/02/2023 16:48
Subject: Re:Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
They are using NATO models for estimating casualties. Obviously, it's impossible to have a 100 percent accurate count in a war of this scale where more than a 1000 soldiers on both sides are dying every day. Ukraine has admitted to presently having more than 7500 MIAs, presumably dead. God knows how many Russians are presently fertilizing Ukrainian land.
But I think Ukraine has a pretty good internal sense of what the true casualty count is. That being said, I would take their public statements with a grain of salt. I believe they're publicly stating that roughly 195,000 Russian soldiers have been killed. That's probably not quite true. 195,000 total Russian casualties - killed and injured - is probably more accurate. 1:2 KIA vs injured is probably a reasonable ratio since Russian battlefield medical is nonexistent and without air superiority they can't do air medevacs. Given that the Russians started with an invading force of 200,000 this has been an absolute catastrophe for them. Of course, it's been awful for Ukrainians too but they are fighting for their families and their homes and they will endure it until the last man standing. It's a grim war and it's only going to get worse in the months ahead.
I hate to break it to you but there is a chunk of Ukraine that doesn't care who rules it, as long as the shooting stops. Independence is a goal for many Ukrainians but not all.
You are very wrong about that. This war has changed everything, even among the Russian speakers in Ukraine. No one in Ukraine will accept Russian domination at this point. Too much has changed. Too much death. Too much destruction. Too many war crimes. There are many, many native Russian speaking Ukrainians fighting with the AFU. As for the circa-2014 separatist fighters from Donetsk and Luhansk, they're all dead now.
EVERYONE in Ukraine is a Russian speaker. What is this "Russian speakers" in Ukraine, as if there is any such thing as a non-Russian-speaking Ukrainian.
There's a difference between speaking Russian, and it being your native language. The majority of Ukrainians consider Ukrainian as their native language.
But, the Russian invasion burned away any delusions anyone might have had that they could live peacefully with Russia, even if they considered themselves ethnically Russian. The Russians invaders were happy to murder, rape and loot their way through Russian-speaking areas in eastern Ukraine.
Is this your theory or is this actual research?
Please outline how your position changes based on either response. Be specific.
Anonymous
05/02/2023 16:46
Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ukraine is running out of resorts- including young men. Time for peace. Lives can be saved.
This has been a talking point that has started circulating from the vatnik social media sphere by Russian troll farms.
It signals a shift in the narrative in Russian propaganda from a few months ago, and certainly a huge shift from the beginning of the war. That means that Russia is increasingly feeling the strain of this unsuccessful war.
Sane Americans have been saying that for quite some time.
There is no reporting from that war. Only propaganda, from both sides.
The only reason this "negotiate to save Ukrainian lives" narrative is coming to the surface now, is because the Kremlin is starting to come to the realization that there's no real way for them to achieve their war goals.
Don't fall for the notion that it's some sort of good faith idea to end the war. The Russians just want to hurt support in the West for continuing aid to Ukraine.
They were negotiating a year ago in Istanbul and getting somewhere until Boris Johnson swooped in and slapped Zelensky's hand away.
Bullshit. They weren't getting anywhere and Johnson didn't derail anything. Zelensky didn't have anything like a mandate from his people for making territorial concessions to Russia and, in any case, Putin is and was utterly untrustworthy. Zelensky was aware that Russia wasn't negotiating in good faith and that Russia had been engaged in the execution and torture of civilians in Bucha, Irpin, Borodyanka and other northern towns.
Anonymous
05/02/2023 16:45
Subject: Re:Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
They are using NATO models for estimating casualties. Obviously, it's impossible to have a 100 percent accurate count in a war of this scale where more than a 1000 soldiers on both sides are dying every day. Ukraine has admitted to presently having more than 7500 MIAs, presumably dead. God knows how many Russians are presently fertilizing Ukrainian land.
But I think Ukraine has a pretty good internal sense of what the true casualty count is. That being said, I would take their public statements with a grain of salt. I believe they're publicly stating that roughly 195,000 Russian soldiers have been killed. That's probably not quite true. 195,000 total Russian casualties - killed and injured - is probably more accurate. 1:2 KIA vs injured is probably a reasonable ratio since Russian battlefield medical is nonexistent and without air superiority they can't do air medevacs. Given that the Russians started with an invading force of 200,000 this has been an absolute catastrophe for them. Of course, it's been awful for Ukrainians too but they are fighting for their families and their homes and they will endure it until the last man standing. It's a grim war and it's only going to get worse in the months ahead.
I hate to break it to you but there is a chunk of Ukraine that doesn't care who rules it, as long as the shooting stops. Independence is a goal for many Ukrainians but not all.
You are very wrong about that. This war has changed everything, even among the Russian speakers in Ukraine. No one in Ukraine will accept Russian domination at this point. Too much has changed. Too much death. Too much destruction. Too many war crimes. There are many, many native Russian speaking Ukrainians fighting with the AFU. As for the circa-2014 separatist fighters from Donetsk and Luhansk, they're all dead now.
EVERYONE in Ukraine is a Russian speaker. What is this "Russian speakers" in Ukraine, as if there is any such thing as a non-Russian-speaking Ukrainian.
There is a linguistic difference between Russian and Ukrainian. It's like the difference between Czech and Slovak or Serbian and Croatian. Distinct people with distinct languages but speakers of each can more or less understand each other. But people claiming that all Ukrainians are Russian speakers and by extension Russian are Kremlin propagandists and imperialists. Ukraine is Ukraine. It is not Little Russia.
Shut up with your genocidal misinformation.
Anonymous
05/02/2023 16:38
Subject: Re:Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
They are using NATO models for estimating casualties. Obviously, it's impossible to have a 100 percent accurate count in a war of this scale where more than a 1000 soldiers on both sides are dying every day. Ukraine has admitted to presently having more than 7500 MIAs, presumably dead. God knows how many Russians are presently fertilizing Ukrainian land.
But I think Ukraine has a pretty good internal sense of what the true casualty count is. That being said, I would take their public statements with a grain of salt. I believe they're publicly stating that roughly 195,000 Russian soldiers have been killed. That's probably not quite true. 195,000 total Russian casualties - killed and injured - is probably more accurate. 1:2 KIA vs injured is probably a reasonable ratio since Russian battlefield medical is nonexistent and without air superiority they can't do air medevacs. Given that the Russians started with an invading force of 200,000 this has been an absolute catastrophe for them. Of course, it's been awful for Ukrainians too but they are fighting for their families and their homes and they will endure it until the last man standing. It's a grim war and it's only going to get worse in the months ahead.
I hate to break it to you but there is a chunk of Ukraine that doesn't care who rules it, as long as the shooting stops. Independence is a goal for many Ukrainians but not all.
You are very wrong about that. This war has changed everything, even among the Russian speakers in Ukraine. No one in Ukraine will accept Russian domination at this point. Too much has changed. Too much death. Too much destruction. Too many war crimes. There are many, many native Russian speaking Ukrainians fighting with the AFU. As for the circa-2014 separatist fighters from Donetsk and Luhansk, they're all dead now.
EVERYONE in Ukraine is a Russian speaker. What is this "Russian speakers" in Ukraine, as if there is any such thing as a non-Russian-speaking Ukrainian.
Shut up with your genocidal misinformation.
Everything above is 100% accurate.
Anonymous
05/02/2023 16:37
Subject: Re:Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
They are using NATO models for estimating casualties. Obviously, it's impossible to have a 100 percent accurate count in a war of this scale where more than a 1000 soldiers on both sides are dying every day. Ukraine has admitted to presently having more than 7500 MIAs, presumably dead. God knows how many Russians are presently fertilizing Ukrainian land.
But I think Ukraine has a pretty good internal sense of what the true casualty count is. That being said, I would take their public statements with a grain of salt. I believe they're publicly stating that roughly 195,000 Russian soldiers have been killed. That's probably not quite true. 195,000 total Russian casualties - killed and injured - is probably more accurate. 1:2 KIA vs injured is probably a reasonable ratio since Russian battlefield medical is nonexistent and without air superiority they can't do air medevacs. Given that the Russians started with an invading force of 200,000 this has been an absolute catastrophe for them. Of course, it's been awful for Ukrainians too but they are fighting for their families and their homes and they will endure it until the last man standing. It's a grim war and it's only going to get worse in the months ahead.
I hate to break it to you but there is a chunk of Ukraine that doesn't care who rules it, as long as the shooting stops. Independence is a goal for many Ukrainians but not all.
You are very wrong about that. This war has changed everything, even among the Russian speakers in Ukraine. No one in Ukraine will accept Russian domination at this point. Too much has changed. Too much death. Too much destruction. Too many war crimes. There are many, many native Russian speaking Ukrainians fighting with the AFU. As for the circa-2014 separatist fighters from Donetsk and Luhansk, they're all dead now.
EVERYONE in Ukraine is a Russian speaker. What is this "Russian speakers" in Ukraine, as if there is any such thing as a non-Russian-speaking Ukrainian.
There's a difference between speaking Russian, and it being your native language. The majority of Ukrainians consider Ukrainian as their native language.
But, the Russian invasion burned away any delusions anyone might have had that they could live peacefully with Russia, even if they considered themselves ethnically Russian. The Russians invaders were happy to murder, rape and loot their way through Russian-speaking areas in eastern Ukraine.
You are so naïve if you think ethnic kinship means safe passage. I mean, wake up. Look at the history of the world even in the last fifty years.
Anonymous
05/02/2023 16:36
Subject: Re:Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
They are using NATO models for estimating casualties. Obviously, it's impossible to have a 100 percent accurate count in a war of this scale where more than a 1000 soldiers on both sides are dying every day. Ukraine has admitted to presently having more than 7500 MIAs, presumably dead. God knows how many Russians are presently fertilizing Ukrainian land.
But I think Ukraine has a pretty good internal sense of what the true casualty count is. That being said, I would take their public statements with a grain of salt. I believe they're publicly stating that roughly 195,000 Russian soldiers have been killed. That's probably not quite true. 195,000 total Russian casualties - killed and injured - is probably more accurate. 1:2 KIA vs injured is probably a reasonable ratio since Russian battlefield medical is nonexistent and without air superiority they can't do air medevacs. Given that the Russians started with an invading force of 200,000 this has been an absolute catastrophe for them. Of course, it's been awful for Ukrainians too but they are fighting for their families and their homes and they will endure it until the last man standing. It's a grim war and it's only going to get worse in the months ahead.
I hate to break it to you but there is a chunk of Ukraine that doesn't care who rules it, as long as the shooting stops. Independence is a goal for many Ukrainians but not all.
You are very wrong about that. This war has changed everything, even among the Russian speakers in Ukraine. No one in Ukraine will accept Russian domination at this point. Too much has changed. Too much death. Too much destruction. Too many war crimes. There are many, many native Russian speaking Ukrainians fighting with the AFU. As for the circa-2014 separatist fighters from Donetsk and Luhansk, they're all dead now.
EVERYONE in Ukraine is a Russian speaker. What is this "Russian speakers" in Ukraine, as if there is any such thing as a non-Russian-speaking Ukrainian.
There's a difference between speaking Russian, and it being your native language. The majority of Ukrainians consider Ukrainian as their native language.
But, the Russian invasion burned away any delusions anyone might have had that they could live peacefully with Russia, even if they considered themselves ethnically Russian. The Russians invaders were happy to murder, rape and loot their way through Russian-speaking areas in eastern Ukraine.
Is this your theory or is this actual research?
Anonymous
05/02/2023 16:35
Subject: Re:Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
They are using NATO models for estimating casualties. Obviously, it's impossible to have a 100 percent accurate count in a war of this scale where more than a 1000 soldiers on both sides are dying every day. Ukraine has admitted to presently having more than 7500 MIAs, presumably dead. God knows how many Russians are presently fertilizing Ukrainian land.
But I think Ukraine has a pretty good internal sense of what the true casualty count is. That being said, I would take their public statements with a grain of salt. I believe they're publicly stating that roughly 195,000 Russian soldiers have been killed. That's probably not quite true. 195,000 total Russian casualties - killed and injured - is probably more accurate. 1:2 KIA vs injured is probably a reasonable ratio since Russian battlefield medical is nonexistent and without air superiority they can't do air medevacs. Given that the Russians started with an invading force of 200,000 this has been an absolute catastrophe for them. Of course, it's been awful for Ukrainians too but they are fighting for their families and their homes and they will endure it until the last man standing. It's a grim war and it's only going to get worse in the months ahead.
I hate to break it to you but there is a chunk of Ukraine that doesn't care who rules it, as long as the shooting stops. Independence is a goal for many Ukrainians but not all.
You are very wrong about that. This war has changed everything, even among the Russian speakers in Ukraine. No one in Ukraine will accept Russian domination at this point. Too much has changed. Too much death. Too much destruction. Too many war crimes. There are many, many native Russian speaking Ukrainians fighting with the AFU. As for the circa-2014 separatist fighters from Donetsk and Luhansk, they're all dead now.
EVERYONE in Ukraine is a Russian speaker. What is this "Russian speakers" in Ukraine, as if there is any such thing as a non-Russian-speaking Ukrainian.
There's a difference between speaking Russian, and it being your native language. The majority of Ukrainians consider Ukrainian as their native language.
But, the Russian invasion burned away any delusions anyone might have had that they could live peacefully with Russia, even if they considered themselves ethnically Russian. The Russians invaders were happy to murder, rape and loot their way through Russian-speaking areas in eastern Ukraine.
Anonymous
05/02/2023 16:15
Subject: Re:Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
They are using NATO models for estimating casualties. Obviously, it's impossible to have a 100 percent accurate count in a war of this scale where more than a 1000 soldiers on both sides are dying every day. Ukraine has admitted to presently having more than 7500 MIAs, presumably dead. God knows how many Russians are presently fertilizing Ukrainian land.
But I think Ukraine has a pretty good internal sense of what the true casualty count is. That being said, I would take their public statements with a grain of salt. I believe they're publicly stating that roughly 195,000 Russian soldiers have been killed. That's probably not quite true. 195,000 total Russian casualties - killed and injured - is probably more accurate. 1:2 KIA vs injured is probably a reasonable ratio since Russian battlefield medical is nonexistent and without air superiority they can't do air medevacs. Given that the Russians started with an invading force of 200,000 this has been an absolute catastrophe for them. Of course, it's been awful for Ukrainians too but they are fighting for their families and their homes and they will endure it until the last man standing. It's a grim war and it's only going to get worse in the months ahead.
I hate to break it to you but there is a chunk of Ukraine that doesn't care who rules it, as long as the shooting stops. Independence is a goal for many Ukrainians but not all.
You are very wrong about that. This war has changed everything, even among the Russian speakers in Ukraine. No one in Ukraine will accept Russian domination at this point. Too much has changed. Too much death. Too much destruction. Too many war crimes. There are many, many native Russian speaking Ukrainians fighting with the AFU. As for the circa-2014 separatist fighters from Donetsk and Luhansk, they're all dead now.
EVERYONE in Ukraine is a Russian speaker. What is this "Russian speakers" in Ukraine, as if there is any such thing as a non-Russian-speaking Ukrainian.
Shut up with your genocidal misinformation.
Anonymous
05/02/2023 15:50
Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ukraine is running out of resorts- including young men. Time for peace. Lives can be saved.
This has been a talking point that has started circulating from the vatnik social media sphere by Russian troll farms.
It signals a shift in the narrative in Russian propaganda from a few months ago, and certainly a huge shift from the beginning of the war. That means that Russia is increasingly feeling the strain of this unsuccessful war.
Sane Americans have been saying that for quite some time.
There is no reporting from that war. Only propaganda, from both sides.
The only reason this "negotiate to save Ukrainian lives" narrative is coming to the surface now, is because the Kremlin is starting to come to the realization that there's no real way for them to achieve their war goals.
Don't fall for the notion that it's some sort of good faith idea to end the war. The Russians just want to hurt support in the West for continuing aid to Ukraine.
They were negotiating a year ago in Istanbul and getting somewhere until Boris Johnson swooped in and slapped Zelensky's hand away.
Anonymous
05/02/2023 15:49
Subject: Re:Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
They are using NATO models for estimating casualties. Obviously, it's impossible to have a 100 percent accurate count in a war of this scale where more than a 1000 soldiers on both sides are dying every day. Ukraine has admitted to presently having more than 7500 MIAs, presumably dead. God knows how many Russians are presently fertilizing Ukrainian land.
But I think Ukraine has a pretty good internal sense of what the true casualty count is. That being said, I would take their public statements with a grain of salt. I believe they're publicly stating that roughly 195,000 Russian soldiers have been killed. That's probably not quite true. 195,000 total Russian casualties - killed and injured - is probably more accurate. 1:2 KIA vs injured is probably a reasonable ratio since Russian battlefield medical is nonexistent and without air superiority they can't do air medevacs. Given that the Russians started with an invading force of 200,000 this has been an absolute catastrophe for them. Of course, it's been awful for Ukrainians too but they are fighting for their families and their homes and they will endure it until the last man standing. It's a grim war and it's only going to get worse in the months ahead.
I hate to break it to you but there is a chunk of Ukraine that doesn't care who rules it, as long as the shooting stops. Independence is a goal for many Ukrainians but not all.
You are very wrong about that. This war has changed everything, even among the Russian speakers in Ukraine. No one in Ukraine will accept Russian domination at this point. Too much has changed. Too much death. Too much destruction. Too many war crimes. There are many, many native Russian speaking Ukrainians fighting with the AFU. As for the circa-2014 separatist fighters from Donetsk and Luhansk, they're all dead now.
EVERYONE in Ukraine is a Russian speaker. What is this "Russian speakers" in Ukraine, as if there is any such thing as a non-Russian-speaking Ukrainian.
Anonymous
05/02/2023 15:35
Subject: Re:Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
They are using NATO models for estimating casualties. Obviously, it's impossible to have a 100 percent accurate count in a war of this scale where more than a 1000 soldiers on both sides are dying every day. Ukraine has admitted to presently having more than 7500 MIAs, presumably dead. God knows how many Russians are presently fertilizing Ukrainian land.
But I think Ukraine has a pretty good internal sense of what the true casualty count is. That being said, I would take their public statements with a grain of salt. I believe they're publicly stating that roughly 195,000 Russian soldiers have been killed. That's probably not quite true. 195,000 total Russian casualties - killed and injured - is probably more accurate. 1:2 KIA vs injured is probably a reasonable ratio since Russian battlefield medical is nonexistent and without air superiority they can't do air medevacs. Given that the Russians started with an invading force of 200,000 this has been an absolute catastrophe for them. Of course, it's been awful for Ukrainians too but they are fighting for their families and their homes and they will endure it until the last man standing. It's a grim war and it's only going to get worse in the months ahead.
I hate to break it to you but there is a chunk of Ukraine that doesn't care who rules it, as long as the shooting stops. Independence is a goal for many Ukrainians but not all.
You are very wrong about that. This war has changed everything, even among the Russian speakers in Ukraine. No one in Ukraine will accept Russian domination at this point. Too much has changed. Too much death. Too much destruction. Too many war crimes. There are many, many native Russian speaking Ukrainians fighting with the AFU. As for the circa-2014 separatist fighters from Donetsk and Luhansk, they're all dead now.
Anonymous
05/02/2023 14:41
Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ukraine is running out of resorts- including young men. Time for peace. Lives can be saved.
This has been a talking point that has started circulating from the vatnik social media sphere by Russian troll farms.
It signals a shift in the narrative in Russian propaganda from a few months ago, and certainly a huge shift from the beginning of the war. That means that Russia is increasingly feeling the strain of this unsuccessful war.
As a pre-condition for any serious negotiation, Ukraine MUST be allowed to fully de-Nazify Russia; this, of course, first requires Putin to turn himself over to The Hague to answer for the war crimes he’s responsible for in his illegal war against Ukraine.
Once Russia meets these simple and obviously necessary conditions, then negotiations can begin.