Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Israeli border controls a different story. They risk being blown up we do not. People who want a better life are coming in so yeah, they don't want to bomb US! That being said I understand securing borders is also a priority but no, it's a very different situation from Israel.
Uh no. Our border control is important. I flew yesterday and I saw an elderly lady with a cane hassled by TSA and a woman with an infant hassled by TSA. Yet we let people from all over the world cross the Rio Grande unfettered.
This.
Talk to local service providers and they will tell you who is crossing illegally (crawling under the wire rather than presenting at lawful points of entry).
ICYMI: they are seeing men from Iran, Uzbekistan, etc.
And then they run free buses to Chicago and NYC…daily.
DP but Uzbekistan and all stans are very different from Iran. Long Soviet secular rule did them good. Just to cheer you up a little![]()
https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/05/24/uzbekistan-backsliding-religious-freedom-promises
Given recent attempts to crackdown on perceived religious extremism, it's very likely that some Uzbeks are upset...and it isn't a leap they might be angry enough to take action.
I think the CBP and ICE #s on Uzbeks entering the US over the last year (and recent months particularly) are noteworthy enough to prompt curiosity if not concern.
Trust me, their perceived extremism is child play compared to even say the Chechens. If I had to offer a guess I’d say it’s some infight for power.
Those coming here are most likely economic migrants.
I am not trying to argue the key premise, just saying that’s not where the danger lies.
I seriously doubt the 1.7 million got aways are economic migrants.
No one is saying that.
I doubt they are all Uzbeks.
Unfortunately, we have no idea who they are, where they are from, or what their intentions are. And, this is frightening.
Yeah I just objected to lumping Uzbeks with say Iranians. Nevermind.
I am not from either country anyway
Overall I think it’s just not good that there are so many migrants, more than can be easily assimilated, and many with less than stellar job skills
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Israeli border controls a different story. They risk being blown up we do not. People who want a better life are coming in so yeah, they don't want to bomb US! That being said I understand securing borders is also a priority but no, it's a very different situation from Israel.
Uh no. Our border control is important. I flew yesterday and I saw an elderly lady with a cane hassled by TSA and a woman with an infant hassled by TSA. Yet we let people from all over the world cross the Rio Grande unfettered.
This.
Talk to local service providers and they will tell you who is crossing illegally (crawling under the wire rather than presenting at lawful points of entry).
ICYMI: they are seeing men from Iran, Uzbekistan, etc.
And then they run free buses to Chicago and NYC…daily.
DP but Uzbekistan and all stans are very different from Iran. Long Soviet secular rule did them good. Just to cheer you up a little![]()
https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/05/24/uzbekistan-backsliding-religious-freedom-promises
Given recent attempts to crackdown on perceived religious extremism, it's very likely that some Uzbeks are upset...and it isn't a leap they might be angry enough to take action.
I think the CBP and ICE #s on Uzbeks entering the US over the last year (and recent months particularly) are noteworthy enough to prompt curiosity if not concern.
Trust me, their perceived extremism is child play compared to even say the Chechens. If I had to offer a guess I’d say it’s some infight for power.
Those coming here are most likely economic migrants.
I am not trying to argue the key premise, just saying that’s not where the danger lies.
I seriously doubt the 1.7 million got aways are economic migrants.
No one is saying that.
I doubt they are all Uzbeks.
Unfortunately, we have no idea who they are, where they are from, or what their intentions are. And, this is frightening.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Israeli border controls a different story. They risk being blown up we do not. People who want a better life are coming in so yeah, they don't want to bomb US! That being said I understand securing borders is also a priority but no, it's a very different situation from Israel.
Uh no. Our border control is important. I flew yesterday and I saw an elderly lady with a cane hassled by TSA and a woman with an infant hassled by TSA. Yet we let people from all over the world cross the Rio Grande unfettered.
This.
Talk to local service providers and they will tell you who is crossing illegally (crawling under the wire rather than presenting at lawful points of entry).
ICYMI: they are seeing men from Iran, Uzbekistan, etc.
And then they run free buses to Chicago and NYC…daily.
DP but Uzbekistan and all stans are very different from Iran. Long Soviet secular rule did them good. Just to cheer you up a little![]()
https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/05/24/uzbekistan-backsliding-religious-freedom-promises
Given recent attempts to crackdown on perceived religious extremism, it's very likely that some Uzbeks are upset...and it isn't a leap they might be angry enough to take action.
I think the CBP and ICE #s on Uzbeks entering the US over the last year (and recent months particularly) are noteworthy enough to prompt curiosity if not concern.
Trust me, their perceived extremism is child play compared to even say the Chechens. If I had to offer a guess I’d say it’s some infight for power.
Those coming here are most likely economic migrants.
I am not trying to argue the key premise, just saying that’s not where the danger lies.
I seriously doubt the 1.7 million got aways are economic migrants.
No one is saying that.
I doubt they are all Uzbeks.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Israeli border controls a different story. They risk being blown up we do not. People who want a better life are coming in so yeah, they don't want to bomb US! That being said I understand securing borders is also a priority but no, it's a very different situation from Israel.
Uh no. Our border control is important. I flew yesterday and I saw an elderly lady with a cane hassled by TSA and a woman with an infant hassled by TSA. Yet we let people from all over the world cross the Rio Grande unfettered.
This.
Talk to local service providers and they will tell you who is crossing illegally (crawling under the wire rather than presenting at lawful points of entry).
ICYMI: they are seeing men from Iran, Uzbekistan, etc.
And then they run free buses to Chicago and NYC…daily.
DP but Uzbekistan and all stans are very different from Iran. Long Soviet secular rule did them good. Just to cheer you up a little![]()
https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/05/24/uzbekistan-backsliding-religious-freedom-promises
Given recent attempts to crackdown on perceived religious extremism, it's very likely that some Uzbeks are upset...and it isn't a leap they might be angry enough to take action.
I think the CBP and ICE #s on Uzbeks entering the US over the last year (and recent months particularly) are noteworthy enough to prompt curiosity if not concern.
Trust me, their perceived extremism is child play compared to even say the Chechens. If I had to offer a guess I’d say it’s some infight for power.
Those coming here are most likely economic migrants.
I am not trying to argue the key premise, just saying that’s not where the danger lies.
I seriously doubt the 1.7 million got aways are economic migrants.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Israeli border controls a different story. They risk being blown up we do not. People who want a better life are coming in so yeah, they don't want to bomb US! That being said I understand securing borders is also a priority but no, it's a very different situation from Israel.
Uh no. Our border control is important. I flew yesterday and I saw an elderly lady with a cane hassled by TSA and a woman with an infant hassled by TSA. Yet we let people from all over the world cross the Rio Grande unfettered.
This.
Talk to local service providers and they will tell you who is crossing illegally (crawling under the wire rather than presenting at lawful points of entry).
ICYMI: they are seeing men from Iran, Uzbekistan, etc.
And then they run free buses to Chicago and NYC…daily.
DP but Uzbekistan and all stans are very different from Iran. Long Soviet secular rule did them good. Just to cheer you up a little![]()
https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/05/24/uzbekistan-backsliding-religious-freedom-promises
Given recent attempts to crackdown on perceived religious extremism, it's very likely that some Uzbeks are upset...and it isn't a leap they might be angry enough to take action.
I think the CBP and ICE #s on Uzbeks entering the US over the last year (and recent months particularly) are noteworthy enough to prompt curiosity if not concern.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Israeli border controls a different story. They risk being blown up we do not. People who want a better life are coming in so yeah, they don't want to bomb US! That being said I understand securing borders is also a priority but no, it's a very different situation from Israel.
Uh no. Our border control is important. I flew yesterday and I saw an elderly lady with a cane hassled by TSA and a woman with an infant hassled by TSA. Yet we let people from all over the world cross the Rio Grande unfettered.
This.
Talk to local service providers and they will tell you who is crossing illegally (crawling under the wire rather than presenting at lawful points of entry).
ICYMI: they are seeing men from Iran, Uzbekistan, etc.
And then they run free buses to Chicago and NYC…daily.
DP but Uzbekistan and all stans are very different from Iran. Long Soviet secular rule did them good. Just to cheer you up a little![]()
https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/05/24/uzbekistan-backsliding-religious-freedom-promises
Given recent attempts to crackdown on perceived religious extremism, it's very likely that some Uzbeks are upset...and it isn't a leap they might be angry enough to take action.
I think the CBP and ICE #s on Uzbeks entering the US over the last year (and recent months particularly) are noteworthy enough to prompt curiosity if not concern.
Trust me, their perceived extremism is child play compared to even say the Chechens. If I had to offer a guess I’d say it’s some infight for power.
Those coming here are most likely economic migrants.
I am not trying to argue the key premise, just saying that’s not where the danger lies.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Israeli border controls a different story. They risk being blown up we do not. People who want a better life are coming in so yeah, they don't want to bomb US! That being said I understand securing borders is also a priority but no, it's a very different situation from Israel.
Uh no. Our border control is important. I flew yesterday and I saw an elderly lady with a cane hassled by TSA and a woman with an infant hassled by TSA. Yet we let people from all over the world cross the Rio Grande unfettered.
This.
Talk to local service providers and they will tell you who is crossing illegally (crawling under the wire rather than presenting at lawful points of entry).
ICYMI: they are seeing men from Iran, Uzbekistan, etc.
And then they run free buses to Chicago and NYC…daily.
DP but Uzbekistan and all stans are very different from Iran. Long Soviet secular rule did them good. Just to cheer you up a little![]()
https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/05/24/uzbekistan-backsliding-religious-freedom-promises
Given recent attempts to crackdown on perceived religious extremism, it's very likely that some Uzbeks are upset...and it isn't a leap they might be angry enough to take action.
I think the CBP and ICE #s on Uzbeks entering the US over the last year (and recent months particularly) are noteworthy enough to prompt curiosity if not concern.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Israeli border controls a different story. They risk being blown up we do not. People who want a better life are coming in so yeah, they don't want to bomb US! That being said I understand securing borders is also a priority but no, it's a very different situation from Israel.
Uh no. Our border control is important. I flew yesterday and I saw an elderly lady with a cane hassled by TSA and a woman with an infant hassled by TSA. Yet we let people from all over the world cross the Rio Grande unfettered.
This.
Talk to local service providers and they will tell you who is crossing illegally (crawling under the wire rather than presenting at lawful points of entry).
ICYMI: they are seeing men from Iran, Uzbekistan, etc.
And then they run free buses to Chicago and NYC…daily.
Daily reminder that the 9/11 hijackers flew in to the country and entered with legal visas. If terrorists are motivated enough and supported by a terrorist group with resources, they don't have come to come in illegally through the border with Mexico, they can fly in from anywhere in the world.
And because of that we could identify the dead hijackers. We’ll never be able to identify any of these peopleAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Israeli border controls a different story. They risk being blown up we do not. People who want a better life are coming in so yeah, they don't want to bomb US! That being said I understand securing borders is also a priority but no, it's a very different situation from Israel.
Uh no. Our border control is important. I flew yesterday and I saw an elderly lady with a cane hassled by TSA and a woman with an infant hassled by TSA. Yet we let people from all over the world cross the Rio Grande unfettered.
This.
Talk to local service providers and they will tell you who is crossing illegally (crawling under the wire rather than presenting at lawful points of entry).
ICYMI: they are seeing men from Iran, Uzbekistan, etc.
And then they run free buses to Chicago and NYC…daily.
Daily reminder that the 9/11 hijackers flew in to the country and entered with legal visas. If terrorists are motivated enough and supported by a terrorist group with resources, they don't have come to come in illegally through the border with Mexico, they can fly in from anywhere in the world.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Israeli border controls a different story. They risk being blown up we do not. People who want a better life are coming in so yeah, they don't want to bomb US! That being said I understand securing borders is also a priority but no, it's a very different situation from Israel.
Uh no. Our border control is important. I flew yesterday and I saw an elderly lady with a cane hassled by TSA and a woman with an infant hassled by TSA. Yet we let people from all over the world cross the Rio Grande unfettered.
This.
Talk to local service providers and they will tell you who is crossing illegally (crawling under the wire rather than presenting at lawful points of entry).
ICYMI: they are seeing men from Iran, Uzbekistan, etc.
And then they run free buses to Chicago and NYC…daily.
DP but Uzbekistan and all stans are very different from Iran. Long Soviet secular rule did them good. Just to cheer you up a little![]()
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Having them housed and not on the street is beneficial to the citizens.
Knowing where they are makes it easier for the court to process ( and likely deport) them
Putting them on a bus to Mexico is even more beneficial
Cool. So how do you keep them out?
The wall falls over in the breeze?
What do you want Trump to do to keep them from coming?
Biden has invited anyone and everyone to come. What else do you need to know?
Biden has not invited them. They are still coming.
So what do you want Trump to do to stop them from coming?
We've gone over this 100 times before. Please refer to prior threads. No asylum claims heard for anyone inside the US to start.
There is a massive backlog for hearings because Republicans refuse to provide the funding for more judges and officials to examine asylum claims. Over 80% are not legitimate asylum claims. Nor will they reform the visa program to allow needed workers to legally come and live here and work here on the books.
Why won't Republicans provide the funding to expedite, staff up and expel the 80% that are illegitimately here, or help solve any of the other problems? It's almost as though they are going out of their way to worsen the crisis.
*almost*
This is the GOP way. All they care about is power. So when they don’t have power, instead of working toward improving our country, they interfere with any progress or positive change for political points and revel in any opportunity to make the democrats look bad instead of doing any meaningful work that helps our country. It’s all about what benefits them.
The craziest new addendum is that Gym Jordan has stated that his first and foremost priority if he is elected to Speaker of the House is to pass a bill that would ELIMINATE FUNDING to process migrants.
Wow. Total smooth-brain idiocy. Eliminating funding to process migrants means no funding to DEPORT them, no funding for immigration hearing officials and judges to clear the backlog of asylum claimers (and we already know that 80% plus do not meet the criteria but current laws require that we give them a hearing first) and so on. Jordan's top priority would be to make the migrant crisis EVEN WORSE. Think about this, Republicans. There is no denying the idiocy of one of your top contenders for Speaker of the House.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Israeli border controls a different story. They risk being blown up we do not. People who want a better life are coming in so yeah, they don't want to bomb US! That being said I understand securing borders is also a priority but no, it's a very different situation from Israel.
Uh no. Our border control is important. I flew yesterday and I saw an elderly lady with a cane hassled by TSA and a woman with an infant hassled by TSA. Yet we let people from all over the world cross the Rio Grande unfettered.
This.
Talk to local service providers and they will tell you who is crossing illegally (crawling under the wire rather than presenting at lawful points of entry).
ICYMI: they are seeing men from Iran, Uzbekistan, etc.
And then they run free buses to Chicago and NYC…daily.
Daily reminder that the 9/11 hijackers flew in to the country and entered with legal visas. If terrorists are motivated enough and supported by a terrorist group with resources, they don't have come to come in illegally through the border with Mexico, they can fly in from anywhere in the world.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Israeli border controls a different story. They risk being blown up we do not. People who want a better life are coming in so yeah, they don't want to bomb US! That being said I understand securing borders is also a priority but no, it's a very different situation from Israel.
Uh no. Our border control is important. I flew yesterday and I saw an elderly lady with a cane hassled by TSA and a woman with an infant hassled by TSA. Yet we let people from all over the world cross the Rio Grande unfettered.
This.
Talk to local service providers and they will tell you who is crossing illegally (crawling under the wire rather than presenting at lawful points of entry).
ICYMI: they are seeing men from Iran, Uzbekistan, etc.
And then they run free buses to Chicago and NYC…daily.