Anonymous
10/25/2022 06:31
Subject: MCPS faces Teacher shortage next year
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:“As of June 13, there were 581 unfilled positions. Meanwhile, 973 teachers have indicated they will be resigning or retiring.“
https://www.mymcmedia.org/mcps-faces-teacher-shortage-for-next-school-year/
No mention of staffing for student support or bus driver positions.
Looks like it all worked out.
You must not have kids in MCPS.
What happened is that any halfway decent sub willing to work daily was made a long term sub to fill the position. However, that created a severe short term sub shortage. Planned leave is almost impossible now because teachers can’t get subs. Unplanned leave is draining fellow teachers who must provide coverage. In my building, burnout is creating tensions and apathy we usually don’t see until June 1. But it’s only November.
Anonymous
10/25/2022 05:43
Subject: Re:MCPS faces Teacher shortage next year
Anonymous wrote:Pension? They'll never make it that long. It's such a burn out job these days. I've been teaching for 10 yrs and I wish I could leave. I just want an office job and to make a lot more money.
I’m currently burning out. No, I’ll never see that pension.
And the PP’s reference to time off? I work 7 days a week. Saturdays and Sundays are full work days with the only difference being I can pee when I want to. I suppose the PP means my 7-week summer, but that’s when I don’t get paid.
Anonymous
10/25/2022 05:06
Subject: MCPS faces Teacher shortage next year
Teaching is also one of those jobs where...you're sitting next to someone who makes 3 figures and doesn't care because they've been around 25 years. Meanwhile, you're doing everything for your students and make 55k. That is why I quit and now make a 3 figure salary myself. This is not sustainable. Teachers need to realize they deserve better. The public doesn't care-hell the public is the problem. People continually whine about teachers while simultaneously beg for teachers. It's pathetic. Teachers know this. They just are bigger than your abuse. Teachers are heroes for reasons you've never thought of.
Anonymous
10/25/2022 04:57
Subject: MCPS faces Teacher shortage next year
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is a labor shortage. This is not unique to mcps.
There isn't a shortage of qualified teachers. There is a shortage of qualified teachers willing to do the job. There's a difference.
I would disagree.
There are retirees as boomers and others leave the workforce. There is pandemic burnout taking others out of teaching.
Interest in being a teacher is waning. We are not graduating from college and producing enough certified teachers. Exit > Entrants
Wonder why when there are active posters here saying their kids “strive to be better than education majors.” This county is full of terrible people who demand teachers while belittling teachers. Hypocrisy at its finest.
I’m not sure students are swayed away from majoring in education after leaving high school because of posts on DCUM. Students are dissuaded by the lack of earning potential after college with an education degree. First year teachers make a fraction of what other majors make and the long term career trajectory remains a fraction of other majors.
My daughter’s starting salary as a Finance major was $80,000 with a $10,000 signing bonus. After a year on the job, she was told that she will be receiving a 15% pay increase. She has one Friday off a month in addition to four weeks of paid time off. Her department also only recently went back to the office but only for Tuesdays, Wednesdays, and Fridays. Computer Science majors and Engineering majors are on an even higher trajectory.
It’s economics that cannot be ignored. Public education will struggle to fill jobs for in person positions if they remain so much lower than other fields.
The double downside is then keeping the teachers already on staff. My daughter has a friend from high school that did become a teacher. She is currently a first year teacher in a Title I school. She teaches third grade with 27 kids. The demands of the job is exhausting with no mentorship and students who probably need an IEP but she is discouraged from referring them. As a result, she is trying to individually meet all her students needs which is an impossible job. As a result, she is rethinking her career choice.
Teacher here-we are just sick and tired of the people who constantly disparage us all while basically begging we exist. I don't even have a teaching degree. I went a different route- BS in business and MS in cybersecurity. I'm teaching your kids how to have a better future in high school. I could be making so much more. MOST teachers could be doing better for themselves...We are here. I'm not asking for applause, just asking that people shut up when they continually talk about things they have no idea about.
Anonymous
10/25/2022 04:44
Subject: MCPS faces Teacher shortage next year
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is a labor shortage. This is not unique to mcps.
There isn't a shortage of qualified teachers. There is a shortage of qualified teachers willing to do the job. There's a difference.
I would disagree.
There are retirees as boomers and others leave the workforce. There is pandemic burnout taking others out of teaching.
Interest in being a teacher is waning. We are not graduating from college and producing enough certified teachers. Exit > Entrants
Wonder why when there are active posters here saying their kids “strive to be better than education majors.” This county is full of terrible people who demand teachers while belittling teachers. Hypocrisy at its finest.
I’m not sure students are swayed away from majoring in education after leaving high school because of posts on DCUM. Students are dissuaded by the lack of earning potential after college with an education degree. First year teachers make a fraction of what other majors make and the long term career trajectory remains a fraction of other majors.
My daughter’s starting salary as a Finance major was $80,000 with a $10,000 signing bonus. After a year on the job, she was told that she will be receiving a 15% pay increase. She has one Friday off a month in addition to four weeks of paid time off. Her department also only recently went back to the office but only for Tuesdays, Wednesdays, and Fridays. Computer Science majors and Engineering majors are on an even higher trajectory.
It’s economics that cannot be ignored. Public education will struggle to fill jobs for in person positions if they remain so much lower than other fields.
The double downside is then keeping the teachers already on staff. My daughter has a friend from high school that did become a teacher. She is currently a first year teacher in a Title I school. She teaches third grade with 27 kids. The demands of the job is exhausting with no mentorship and students who probably need an IEP but she is discouraged from referring them. As a result, she is trying to individually meet all her students needs which is an impossible job. As a result, she is rethinking her career choice.
If they could factored the pension and time off they'd soon realize it's actually a great job.
Lol the pension sucks. The job sucks. "But SuMmErS oFf, bEiNg a TeAcHeR iS sO EaSy..." There's a reason there's a shortage. People are realizing they can do better. Hell, people are quitting to take jobs at Giant.
Anonymous
10/24/2022 20:33
Subject: Re:MCPS faces Teacher shortage next year
Anonymous wrote:Pension? They'll never make it that long. It's such a burn out job these days. I've been teaching for 10 yrs and I wish I could leave. I just want an office job and to make a lot more money.
Go get one, seriously. If you are not happy with your compensation it is not your responsibility to donate your time to the school system.
Anonymous
10/24/2022 20:09
Subject: Re:MCPS faces Teacher shortage next year
Pension? They'll never make it that long. It's such a burn out job these days. I've been teaching for 10 yrs and I wish I could leave. I just want an office job and to make a lot more money.
Anonymous
10/24/2022 19:18
Subject: MCPS faces Teacher shortage next year
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is a labor shortage. This is not unique to mcps.
There isn't a shortage of qualified teachers. There is a shortage of qualified teachers willing to do the job. There's a difference.
I would disagree.
There are retirees as boomers and others leave the workforce. There is pandemic burnout taking others out of teaching.
Interest in being a teacher is waning. We are not graduating from college and producing enough certified teachers. Exit > Entrants
Wonder why when there are active posters here saying their kids “strive to be better than education majors.” This county is full of terrible people who demand teachers while belittling teachers. Hypocrisy at its finest.
I’m not sure students are swayed away from majoring in education after leaving high school because of posts on DCUM. Students are dissuaded by the lack of earning potential after college with an education degree. First year teachers make a fraction of what other majors make and the long term career trajectory remains a fraction of other majors.
My daughter’s starting salary as a Finance major was $80,000 with a $10,000 signing bonus. After a year on the job, she was told that she will be receiving a 15% pay increase. She has one Friday off a month in addition to four weeks of paid time off. Her department also only recently went back to the office but only for Tuesdays, Wednesdays, and Fridays. Computer Science majors and Engineering majors are on an even higher trajectory.
It’s economics that cannot be ignored. Public education will struggle to fill jobs for in person positions if they remain so much lower than other fields.
The double downside is then keeping the teachers already on staff. My daughter has a friend from high school that did become a teacher. She is currently a first year teacher in a Title I school. She teaches third grade with 27 kids. The demands of the job is exhausting with no mentorship and students who probably need an IEP but she is discouraged from referring them. As a result, she is trying to individually meet all her students needs which is an impossible job. As a result, she is rethinking her career choice.
If they could factored the pension and time off they'd soon realize it's actually a great job.
Anonymous
10/24/2022 19:17
Subject: MCPS faces Teacher shortage next year
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is a labor shortage. This is not unique to mcps.
There isn't a shortage of qualified teachers. There is a shortage of qualified teachers willing to do the job. There's a difference.
I would disagree.
There are retirees as boomers and others leave the workforce. There is pandemic burnout taking others out of teaching.
Interest in being a teacher is waning. We are not graduating from college and producing enough certified teachers. Exit > Entrants
Wonder why when there are active posters here saying their kids “strive to be better than education majors.” This county is full of terrible people who demand teachers while belittling teachers. Hypocrisy at its finest.
Hard to recommend teaching to someone unless they have specific reasons. It is much harder than ever before and the salaries have not been keeping up with inflation to the point that young staff can’t afford to be teachers and pay off students loans.
Well it's not like anyone's salaries are keeping up with inflation so that's not a teacher problem.
Anonymous
10/24/2022 19:17
Subject: MCPS faces Teacher shortage next year
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is a labor shortage. This is not unique to mcps.
There isn't a shortage of qualified teachers. There is a shortage of qualified teachers willing to do the job. There's a difference.
I would disagree.
There are retirees as boomers and others leave the workforce. There is pandemic burnout taking others out of teaching.
Interest in being a teacher is waning. We are not graduating from college and producing enough certified teachers. Exit > Entrants
Wonder why when there are active posters here saying their kids “strive to be better than education majors.” This county is full of terrible people who demand teachers while belittling teachers. Hypocrisy at its finest.
I’m not sure students are swayed away from majoring in education after leaving high school because of posts on DCUM. Students are dissuaded by the lack of earning potential after college with an education degree. First year teachers make a fraction of what other majors make and the long term career trajectory remains a fraction of other majors.
My daughter’s starting salary as a Finance major was $80,000 with a $10,000 signing bonus. After a year on the job, she was told that she will be receiving a 15% pay increase. She has one Friday off a month in addition to four weeks of paid time off. Her department also only recently went back to the office but only for Tuesdays, Wednesdays, and Fridays. Computer Science majors and Engineering majors are on an even higher trajectory.
It’s economics that cannot be ignored. Public education will struggle to fill jobs for in person positions if they remain so much lower than other fields.
The double downside is then keeping the teachers already on staff. My daughter has a friend from high school that did become a teacher. She is currently a first year teacher in a Title I school. She teaches third grade with 27 kids. The demands of the job is exhausting with no mentorship and students who probably need an IEP but she is discouraged from referring them. As a result, she is trying to individually meet all her students needs which is an impossible job. As a result, she is rethinking her career choice.
Anonymous
10/24/2022 19:16
Subject: MCPS faces Teacher shortage next year
Anonymous wrote:“As of June 13, there were 581 unfilled positions. Meanwhile, 973 teachers have indicated they will be resigning or retiring.“
https://www.mymcmedia.org/mcps-faces-teacher-shortage-for-next-school-year/
No mention of staffing for student support or bus driver positions.
Looks like it all worked out.
Anonymous
10/24/2022 19:15
Subject: MCPS faces Teacher shortage next year
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is a labor shortage. This is not unique to mcps.
There isn't a shortage of qualified teachers. There is a shortage of qualified teachers willing to do the job. There's a difference.
I would disagree.
There are retirees as boomers and others leave the workforce. There is pandemic burnout taking others out of teaching.
Interest in being a teacher is waning. We are not graduating from college and producing enough certified teachers. Exit > Entrants
Wonder why when there are active posters here saying their kids “strive to be better than education majors.” This county is full of terrible people who demand teachers while belittling teachers. Hypocrisy at its finest.
Hard to recommend teaching to someone unless they have specific reasons. It is much harder than ever before and the salaries have not been keeping up with inflation to the point that young staff can’t afford to be teachers and pay off students loans.
Anonymous
10/24/2022 11:46
Subject: MCPS faces Teacher shortage next year
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is a labor shortage. This is not unique to mcps.
There isn't a shortage of qualified teachers. There is a shortage of qualified teachers willing to do the job. There's a difference.
I would disagree.
There are retirees as boomers and others leave the workforce. There is pandemic burnout taking others out of teaching.
Interest in being a teacher is waning. We are not graduating from college and producing enough certified teachers. Exit > Entrants
Wonder why when there are active posters here saying their kids “strive to be better than education majors.” This county is full of terrible people who demand teachers while belittling teachers. Hypocrisy at its finest.
Anonymous
08/23/2022 08:45
Subject: Re:MCPS faces Teacher shortage next year
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:With the shortage of staff and the possible use of subs to cover open spots, I wonder how big the class sizes will be? Hopefully, decisions will be made to keep the neediest sections at the regular size.
I also wonder how many teachers will continue to have extra release periods to perform jobs that could be completed by someone else?
So grateful McKnight mostly nipped this in the bud for MCPS with preemptive measures like the transfers earlier this summer.
I'm sure the teachers were thrilled at being moved like cattle. Moo.
McKnight already pissed off teachers and parents last January with the covid fiasco, now this? Talk about bad leadership. She really doesn't get it, does she.
McKnight - and every other super in the country dealing with significant staffing shortages, too. We need to stop pissing off all the teachers!
Anonymous
08/22/2022 22:37
Subject: Re:MCPS faces Teacher shortage next year
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:With the shortage of staff and the possible use of subs to cover open spots, I wonder how big the class sizes will be? Hopefully, decisions will be made to keep the neediest sections at the regular size.
I also wonder how many teachers will continue to have extra release periods to perform jobs that could be completed by someone else?
So grateful McKnight mostly nipped this in the bud for MCPS with preemptive measures like the transfers earlier this summer.
I'm sure the teachers were thrilled at being moved like cattle. Moo.
McKnight already pissed off teachers and parents last January with the covid fiasco, now this? Talk about bad leadership. She really doesn't get it, does she.