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Anonymous wrote:How about this:
-All missionaries are motivated to serve for religion reasons, varies by religion and individual.
-Some missionaries proselytize with deeds.
-Some missionaries proselytize with words.
-It's unethical to proselytize during vulnerable moments.

Anyone disagree?

Good lord

The “we’ve all agreed, here’s the list we’ve agreed to, it’s settled!” posts are continuing. It’s obsessive.

Anonymous wrote:How about this:
-All missionaries are motivated to serve for religion reasons, varies by religion and individual.
-Some missionaries proselytize with deeds.
-Some missionaries proselytize with words.
-It's unethical to proselytize during vulnerable moments.

Anyone disagree?

Good lord

16:56 - you are confusing posters

How about this:
-All missionaries are motivated to serve for religion reasons, varies by religion and individual.
-Some missionaries proselytize with deeds.
-Some missionaries proselytize with words.
-It's unethical to proselytize during vulnerable moments.

Anyone disagree?

Anonymous wrote:If they just wanted to provide charity they could just do it via secular groups. Why volunteer as a missionary if there isn’t a religious aspect?

Do you even bother reading what anybody else lists? You’ve been told what, ten, or more, times that secular groups just aren’t present in many of the most impoverished or dangerous parts of the world. Several posters who worked in Haiti told you this.

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Anonymous wrote:So to summarize:
-All missionaries proselytize in some way - words, deeds, etc.
-Some missionaries proselytize with words.
-It's unethical to proselytize during vulnerable moments.
-Some DCUM posters can't face facts.

Missionaries are great. How can you not like the promotion of God?

LOVE the promotion of Allah! Allah Akbar!

Dear proselytizing atheist:

Stop fake channeling Muslims and evangelicals. It’s obvious it’s you and we’re embarrassed for you.

If they just wanted to provide charity they could just do it via secular groups. Why volunteer as a missionary if there isn’t a religious aspect?

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Anonymous wrote:So to summarize:
-All missionaries proselytize in some way - words, deeds, etc.
-Some missionaries proselytize with words.
-It's unethical to proselytize during vulnerable moments.
-Some DCUM posters can't face facts.

Stop fabricating these lying spins.

You’ve had several people tell you on this thread that
— many missionaries proselytize by example
— for many, it’s about the commandment to perform charity, not about winning souls

Which specific point above was incorrect/lying?

For example - these are the same:
All missionaries proselytize in some way - words, deeds, etc.
many missionaries proselytize by example

Way to ignore “ for many, it’s about the commandment to perform charity, not about winning souls”

You can’t even lie competently.

That also falls under "deeds".

It’s not proselytizing though. That’s the whole point you’re trying to make.

WTF is wrong with you?

Sure it is. "Spread the gospel with deeds".

Charity and proselytizing are very different. When you volunteer at a soup kitchen or nursing home are you trying to spread atheism? No? Of course you aren’t. There you go.

You just don’t like the charity angle because it destroys your whole argument. Oops.

“Spreading the gospel with deeds” (quote from earlier) is proselytizing.

Charity =\= proselytizing

Don’t be ridiculous. You look uneducated.

You have to look at the motivations. Why are they providing charity? To “share the love of Jesus” or “share the gospel with deeds”.

If you don’t know that many believe the acts of charity and self-sacrifice are good for the soul and/or religious requirements in many religions, there’s no help for you.

16:49 - you are confusing posters

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Anonymous wrote:So to summarize:
-All missionaries proselytize in some way - words, deeds, etc.
-Some missionaries proselytize with words.
-It's unethical to proselytize during vulnerable moments.
-Some DCUM posters can't face facts.

Stop fabricating these lying spins.

You’ve had several people tell you on this thread that
— many missionaries proselytize by example
— for many, it’s about the commandment to perform charity, not about winning souls

Which specific point above was incorrect/lying?

For example - these are the same:
All missionaries proselytize in some way - words, deeds, etc.
many missionaries proselytize by example

Way to ignore “ for many, it’s about the commandment to perform charity, not about winning souls”

You can’t even lie competently.

That also falls under "deeds".

It’s not proselytizing though. That’s the whole point you’re trying to make.

WTF is wrong with you?

Sure it is. "Spread the gospel with deeds".

Charity and proselytizing are very different. When you volunteer at a soup kitchen or nursing home are you trying to spread atheism? No? Of course you aren’t. There you go.

You just don’t like the charity angle because it destroys your whole argument. Oops.

“Spreading the gospel with deeds” (quote from earlier) is proselytizing.

Charity =\= proselytizing

Don’t be ridiculous. You look uneducated.

You have to look at the motivations. Why are they providing charity? To “share the love of Jesus” or “share the gospel with deeds”.

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Anonymous wrote:So to summarize:
-All missionaries proselytize in some way - words, deeds, etc.
-Some missionaries proselytize with words.
-It's unethical to proselytize during vulnerable moments.
-Some DCUM posters can't face facts.

Stop fabricating these lying spins.

You’ve had several people tell you on this thread that
— many missionaries proselytize by example
— for many, it’s about the commandment to perform charity, not about winning souls

Which specific point above was incorrect/lying?

For example - these are the same:
All missionaries proselytize in some way - words, deeds, etc.
many missionaries proselytize by example

Way to ignore “ for many, it’s about the commandment to perform charity, not about winning souls”

You can’t even lie competently.

That also falls under "deeds".

It’s not proselytizing though. That’s the whole point you’re trying to make.

WTF is wrong with you?

Sure it is. "Spread the gospel with deeds".

Charity and proselytizing are very different. When you volunteer at a soup kitchen or nursing home are you trying to spread atheism? No? Of course you aren’t. There you go.

You just don’t like the charity angle because it destroys your whole argument. Oops.

“Spreading the gospel with deeds” (quote from earlier) is proselytizing.

Charity =\= proselytizing

Don’t be ridiculous. You look uneducated.

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Anonymous wrote:It's what Jesus wanted. Matthew 28:

And Jesus came and said to them, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.”

I understand this. However it's 2022 time to realize that there is not just one belief system. Just like Mormons or Jehovah's Witnesses knocking on doors. No thank you. Underprivileged people.ecan have the assistance they need without being preached at. On a lot of these missions building schools, working on wells etc. are considered secondary to the real purpose: leading people to God. Whether that is what they believe or not.

Exactly. Can you imagine if organized groups of privileged youth from wealthy Arab nations descended onto poor or middle-class American neighborhoods to spread the word of Allah in exchange for offering assistance to those who have less financial means? It doesn't matter what you who live in those communities want because....this is what Allah wanted.

Another thing about this anti-missionary poster: when she loses an argument badly, she immediately bumps an old post (probably herself) from at least five pages ago (like this one) and agrees with them. She does this all the time.

Of course, she will totally bring back the debunked arguments and fake recaps in another few pages, after the dust has settled and when she’s hoping everybody has forgotten the specific ways she lost the arguments.

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Anonymous wrote:So to summarize:
-All missionaries proselytize in some way - words, deeds, etc.
-Some missionaries proselytize with words.
-It's unethical to proselytize during vulnerable moments.
-Some DCUM posters can't face facts.

Stop fabricating these lying spins.

You’ve had several people tell you on this thread that
— many missionaries proselytize by example
— for many, it’s about the commandment to perform charity, not about winning souls

Which specific point above was incorrect/lying?

For example - these are the same:
All missionaries proselytize in some way - words, deeds, etc.
many missionaries proselytize by example

Way to ignore “ for many, it’s about the commandment to perform charity, not about winning souls”

You can’t even lie competently.

That also falls under "deeds".

It’s not proselytizing though. That’s the whole point you’re trying to make.

WTF is wrong with you?

Sure it is. "Spread the gospel with deeds".

Charity and proselytizing are very different. When you volunteer at a soup kitchen or nursing home are you trying to spread atheism? No? Of course you aren’t. There you go.

You just don’t like the charity angle because it destroys your whole argument. Oops.

“Spreading the gospel with deeds” (quote from earlier) is proselytizing.

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Anonymous wrote:It's what Jesus wanted. Matthew 28:

And Jesus came and said to them, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.”

I understand this. However it's 2022 time to realize that there is not just one belief system. Just like Mormons or Jehovah's Witnesses knocking on doors. No thank you. Underprivileged people.ecan have the assistance they need without being preached at. On a lot of these missions building schools, working on wells etc. are considered secondary to the real purpose: leading people to God. Whether that is what they believe or not.

Exactly. Can you imagine if organized groups of privileged youth from wealthy Arab nations descended onto poor or middle-class American neighborhoods to spread the word of Allah in exchange for offering assistance to those who have less financial means? It doesn't matter what you who live in those communities want because....this is what Allah wanted.

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Anonymous wrote:So to summarize:
-All missionaries proselytize in some way - words, deeds, etc.
-Some missionaries proselytize with words.
-It's unethical to proselytize during vulnerable moments.
-Some DCUM posters can't face facts.

Stop fabricating these lying spins.

You’ve had several people tell you on this thread that
— many missionaries proselytize by example
— for many, it’s about the commandment to perform charity, not about winning souls

Which specific point above was incorrect/lying?

For example - these are the same:
All missionaries proselytize in some way - words, deeds, etc.
many missionaries proselytize by example

Way to ignore “ for many, it’s about the commandment to perform charity, not about winning souls”

You can’t even lie competently.

That also falls under "deeds".

It’s not proselytizing though. That’s the whole point you’re trying to make.

WTF is wrong with you?

Sure it is. "Spread the gospel with deeds".

Charity and proselytizing are very different. When you volunteer at a soup kitchen or nursing home are you trying to spread atheism? No? Of course you aren’t. There you go.

You just don’t like the charity angle because it destroys your whole argument. Oops.