I didn’t see the Remy shoes and towels posts, but how was engagement from the Jen fans? Did corneaters laugh about it? Did anyone call her out? Silence?

Maybe for the last couple of years we have been getting glimpses of what Brandon needed to be “saved” from… 👀

Seriously though, it’s weird how Jen went from being our “go-to how-to girl” (how to follow Jesus, how to celebrate marriage, how to have fun while parenting great kids, how to dream big, how to cherish people, etc) to being the ultimate “how-not-to-do-it” cautionary tale, in divorce, business tactics, faith, and materialism. And how not to speak about your daughter in posts and videos. I’m still just sad about that, for Remy.

Agreed that friendship probably isn’t the goal for mother and step-mother, but at least some sort of regular parenting maintenance communication while they’re coparenting a minor (especially one with more challenging issues). I, too, think it’s strange that her daughter spends so much time in the care of someone who Jen doesn’t know. Someone who pours motherly love into her child’s mind, heart, and decisions.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve worked in PR. As a rule of thumb, all “celebrities” and businesses have Google alerts set up for their name to monitor discussions. These usually go to their PR team. Additionally, all social media is monitored for their mentions as well. If her name is mentioned fully here, a Google alert is triggered and a someone is probably getting it.

Well in that case, Dear JEN HATMAKER: Please read as many pages as you have time to peruse. Ignore the mean-spirited…there is some legit good advice on here regarding Tyler not being good enough for you, Remy deserving better from you, softer hair tones that would be kinder to you, business practices that are unbecoming of you, friendship with Tina being possible of you, and the evangelical church not being the enemy of you.

There’s some pretty solid humor throughout too.

I don't think anyone should be expected to be friends with their ex's new spouse. Being cordial when contact is required is PLENTY. Especially when the ex is a cheating addict who moved on immediately to the woman who has "saved him." That's a bitter pill to swallow, and takes a long time to work through. But she can't take that bitterness out on the kids--that's the line. You gotta set it aside and nurture them. This is a big transition for them, too.

Anonymous wrote:I’ve worked in PR. As a rule of thumb, all “celebrities” and businesses have Google alerts set up for their name to monitor discussions. These usually go to their PR team. Additionally, all social media is monitored for their mentions as well. If her name is mentioned fully here, a Google alert is triggered and a someone is probably getting it.

Well in that case, Dear JEN HATMAKER: Please read as many pages as you have time to peruse. Ignore the mean-spirited…there is some legit good advice on here regarding Tyler not being good enough for you, Remy deserving better from you, softer hair tones that would be kinder to you, business practices that are unbecoming of you, friendship with Tina being possible of you, and the evangelical church not being the enemy of you.

There’s some pretty solid humor throughout too.

I’ve worked in PR. As a rule of thumb, all “celebrities” and businesses have Google alerts set up for their name to monitor discussions. These usually go to their PR team. Additionally, all social media is monitored for their mentions as well. If her name is mentioned fully here, a Google alert is triggered and a someone is probably getting it.

No way a proud enneagram 3 who shows off insignificant awards isn’t a googling herself compulsively.

Anonymous wrote:Jen reads these threads compulsively.

This sounds accurate.

Anonymous wrote:
Has Jen met Tina?

Yes, at Ben’s graduation. Both Jen and Brandon posted pictures of each “side” of the family taking pictures with Ben (Tyler was there too) on Jen’s porch. No, Jen and Tina are not featured in any pictures together but Jen posted a photo with Ben and Brandon’s parents. They were all together at Jen’s house.

I think it was said a while back that while the pictures were taken the same day, hence the same clothes on all, they were actually taken at two different homes with similar porches. Two separate family celebrations. But I wasn’t there, so…🤷🏻‍♀️

Jen has a lot of health issues (physical and mental). It’s likely that she’s not even exactly sure what’s causing her red face. I’m sure it’s distressing for her but she can’t just stop posting videos. Please don’t pretend that it’s so easy to switch careers either.

Jen still drinks but to sell products, she constructed a narrative of cutting back.

Even the worst of perimenopause days offers no excuse for treating her kids (especially the minor) like she does and continuing unethical business practices (I’m talking the shady therapist partnership AND the Dave-Hollis-ish deception of reality vs. public image AND the shameful grifting and preying on fans with MLM products, inflated cruise costs, and paid endorsements advertised without disclosing that they’re paid endorsements)…it’s all so gross.

Does Jen read this forum?

Probably not. Outside of Meta, this forum is the most active community about Jen. Certainly she knows about it but Jen does not actually spend much time reading comments on any platform. Unlike a lot of influencers, she is not chronically online. Unlike some influencers, Jen doesn’t thrive on “haters” either.

Has Jen met Tina?

Yes, at Ben’s graduation. Both Jen and Brandon posted pictures of each “side” of the family taking pictures with Ben (Tyler was there too) on Jen’s porch. No, Jen and Tina are not featured in any pictures together but Jen posted a photo with Ben and Brandon’s parents. They were all together at Jen’s house.

She’s said she’s been going through perimenopause. Flush face and moods are probably related to wacky hormone rollercoaster. Does she still drink alcohol at all? It seemed she shifted to non-alcoholic beverages/mock tails, and CBD for effect now. Maybe the meds she has to take can’t mix with alcohol.

The towel video. Why is Jen so flushed and red? She looks really unwell.
High blood pressure? Some sort of alerting reaction? Chemical peel damage?

Anonymous wrote:Has anyone looked into the actual ethics/laws/certifications/business ties of the therapist?

I believe she's a LCSW and Counselor registered in Michigan. I have no idea how Jen saw her, as I don't think she's licensed in TX, and I believe TX is picky about that stuff.

Therapist isn't a protected title in TX though, so maybe there some sneaky way around it? Idk.

Super sketch as a therapist to a) see a clients mom, and b) go into business together. Hard no. Wish someone would report Carissa to her ethics board.