Anonymous wrote:The majority of white men are going to be serfs in a year, so let’s see how they feel then.

Anonymous wrote:Perhaps your son likes racism and misogyny and xenophobia and transphobia.

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Anonymous wrote:My son is 32 and just told me he voted for Trump three times. I’m embarrassed and feel like a failure. We raised him in a liberal environment and now he’s become radicalized

He’s not even your stereotypical trump voter or whatever. Good job in coastal city, just got engaged, owns a house, many friends. But he’s gone down this rabbit hole of right wing politics and it leaves me baffled

He’s not fooled by all the fake news on ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSWhatever.

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Anonymous wrote:People hear men being asked to do better, and automatically jump to “you hate men”, which doesn’t make sense.

Someone who really hated men would tell them never to change or grow. They’d tell them that they’re animals who can’t help forcing themselves on women. They’d convince young men that the ideal relationship is a cold, transactional power struggle and no one will ever truly love them. They’d tell them their only value is in sleeping around and using and discarding teenage virgins. They’d tell them college is for losers. They’d make them feel constantly insecure and unworthy by calling them betas and cucks and low value. They’d whip up unrealistic standards and anger at women, undermining the ability of young men to form stable, adult relationships.

Someone like, say…the hundreds of internet manosphere grifters peddling this cynical, dead end vision to young men.

It seems many men are hearing 'you hate men' though. If they're not receiving the correct message, perhaps adjust it, instead of insisting they're stupid or whatever. Otherwise, you're just writing this demographic off as a lost cause.

No, it’s on young men to acquire critical thinking skills and learn to distinguish between reality and confirmation bias. Stop asking everyone else to do the hard work for them. No amount of “message adjusting” is going to counter the propaganda they hear daily from people who don’t have their best interests at heart.

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Anonymous wrote:People hear men being asked to do better, and automatically jump to “you hate men”, which doesn’t make sense.

Someone who really hated men would tell them never to change or grow. They’d tell them that they’re animals who can’t help forcing themselves on women. They’d convince young men that the ideal relationship is a cold, transactional power struggle and no one will ever truly love them. They’d tell them their only value is in sleeping around and using and discarding teenage virgins. They’d tell them college is for losers. They’d make them feel constantly insecure and unworthy by calling them betas and cucks and low value. They’d whip up unrealistic standards and anger at women, undermining the ability of young men to form stable, adult relationships.

Someone like, say…the hundreds of internet manosphere grifters peddling this cynical, dead end vision to young men.

It seems many men are hearing 'you hate men' though. If they're not receiving the correct message, perhaps adjust it, instead of insisting they're stupid or whatever. Otherwise, you're just writing this demographic off as a lost cause.

Anonymous wrote:People hear men being asked to do better, and automatically jump to “you hate men”, which doesn’t make sense.

Someone who really hated men would tell them never to change or grow. They’d tell them that they’re animals who can’t help forcing themselves on women. They’d convince young men that the ideal relationship is a cold, transactional power struggle and no one will ever truly love them. They’d tell them their only value is in sleeping around and using and discarding teenage virgins. They’d tell them college is for losers. They’d make them feel constantly insecure and unworthy by calling them betas and cucks and low value. They’d whip up unrealistic standards and anger at women, undermining the ability of young men to form stable, adult relationships.

Someone like, say…the hundreds of internet manosphere grifters peddling this cynical, dead end vision to young men.

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That is interesting - they leaned right because they bought the fiscal crisis stuff and now are like, wtf?

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Anonymous wrote:In recent years, Democrats really went out of their way to ostracize and demonize young straight white men. It's not a surprise some turned toward the Republican Party. The Democratic Party is a very little tent these days.

How so exactly? We are late 30’s (so not “young”) and DH does not feel ostracized. He has know idea why other white men like Trump.

Yes I hear this a lot. And I too would like to know how young men were ostracized?

Was it:
-By sharing educational and employment opportunties?
-Asking them to keep their dicks in their pants and hands to themself, unless asked to do so otherwise?
-keep their catcalls and misogynistic comments to themselves and treat people fairly? (I could tell you stories just in the last 20 years of things said to me by men IN THE WORKPLACE that would make your toes curl.)

So, do tell?

They can't. They call telling men to be responsible for their own behavior and to behave like kind and decent human beings "ostracizing" and "demonizing". It's whining, frankly, and we should not have any tolerance for it.

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Anonymous wrote:In recent years, Democrats really went out of their way to ostracize and demonize young straight white men. It's not a surprise some turned toward the Republican Party. The Democratic Party is a very little tent these days.

How so exactly? We are late 30’s (so not “young”) and DH does not feel ostracized. He has know idea why other white men like Trump.

Yes I hear this a lot. And I too would like to know how young men were ostracized?

Was it:
-By sharing educational and employment opportunties?
-Asking them to keep their dicks in their pants and hands to themself, unless asked to do so otherwise?
-keep their catcalls and misogynistic comments to themselves and treat people fairly? (I could tell you stories just in the last 20 years of things said to me by men IN THE WORKPLACE that would make your toes curl.)

So, do tell?

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Anonymous wrote:My son is 32 and just told me he voted for Trump three times. I’m embarrassed and feel like a failure. We raised him in a liberal environment and now he’s become radicalized

He’s not even your stereotypical trump voter or whatever. Good job in coastal city, just got engaged, owns a house, many friends. But he’s gone down this rabbit hole of right wing politics and it leaves me baffled

He’s not fooled by all the fake news on ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSWhatever.

Who cares?

OP's son deserves what he gets

Which is nothing, unless he's a billionaire

He's going to get nothing and deserves it because he's stupid