Anonymous
08/29/2021 14:18
Subject: Places to Sign Recall Petitions - Tholen/Omeish/Cohen
Are you implying that "progressive" is synonymous with "far left"?
Anonymous
08/29/2021 14:12
Subject: Places to Sign Recall Petitions - Tholen/Omeish/Cohen
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Open Fcps are such whiny losers.
Very mature - dont be a bully.
You all have been 'bullying' Tholen for a year. You can't take a day of legal celebrations in your opponent's favor?
We've been asking her to do her job; she didnt so we organized and brought her to court - and what happened yesterday was one Dem bailing out another Dem.
She did her job. You jist didn’t agree with her decisions. That doesn’t mean she should be recalled. A bunch of very entitled people tried this stunt and lost.
DP, but there are a lot of people in her district who don't agree with Tholen's decisions, whether it was her decisions about keeping schools closed, extending Brabrand's contract for a year, going along with TJ admissions changes that reduce the number of Dranesville students getting into TJHSST, or adjusting school boundaries to favor wealthy Langley.
I guess local Democratic activistscan keep calling everyone in Tholen's district who feels let down "entitled," but it doesn't position them very well for the next election.
You're not entitled if you disagree with a politician--that's democracy. You're acting entitled when you disagree with policies, make false accusations (as the court found), engineer a recall that is handily dismissed (and then cry foul about its dismissal). These heavy-handed efforts around a SB position that has been stressful to hold at this time just alienates the average voter--and will likely backfire against the group in the next election. I'm perfectly fine with there being a competitive election--I just really dislike this kind of stance that we will try to get rid of democratically elected officials whose policies we disagree with. And somehow that's Democratic activism??? Abiding by elections?
The judge denied tholen's motion to dismiss - in other words, there was enough to move forward. So it wasnt dismissed by the judge. Instead, it was turned over to Descano. He received $2,344 from tholen (vpap.org) and recused himself, turning this to James Hingeley, who, not surprisingly, determined that tholen did indeed do her job.
Descano and Jim are both happy recipients of funding from the Justice and Safety PAC (Descano received $601369 (vpap.org) and Jim $5,000. This is one of the PACs that sends money into local elections to tilt results in favor of far-left democrats.
That you think any local office is held by anyone “far-left” really puts your partisan agenda right up front.
Not PP, but it's not hard to get confused when local Democrats call themselves "progressive" all the time.
Eventually you realize people like Elaine Tholen are only "progressive" if a policy requires someone else to sacrifice. If it's about their own neighborhoods and schools they clutch their pearls harder than any Republican.
Anonymous
08/29/2021 13:59
Subject: Places to Sign Recall Petitions - Tholen/Omeish/Cohen
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Open Fcps are such whiny losers.
Very mature - dont be a bully.
You all have been 'bullying' Tholen for a year. You can't take a day of legal celebrations in your opponent's favor?
We've been asking her to do her job; she didnt so we organized and brought her to court - and what happened yesterday was one Dem bailing out another Dem.
She did her job. You jist didn’t agree with her decisions. That doesn’t mean she should be recalled. A bunch of very entitled people tried this stunt and lost.
DP, but there are a lot of people in her district who don't agree with Tholen's decisions, whether it was her decisions about keeping schools closed, extending Brabrand's contract for a year, going along with TJ admissions changes that reduce the number of Dranesville students getting into TJHSST, or adjusting school boundaries to favor wealthy Langley.
I guess local Democratic activistscan keep calling everyone in Tholen's district who feels let down "entitled," but it doesn't position them very well for the next election.
You're not entitled if you disagree with a politician--that's democracy. You're acting entitled when you disagree with policies, make false accusations (as the court found), engineer a recall that is handily dismissed (and then cry foul about its dismissal). These heavy-handed efforts around a SB position that has been stressful to hold at this time just alienates the average voter--and will likely backfire against the group in the next election. I'm perfectly fine with there being a competitive election--I just really dislike this kind of stance that we will try to get rid of democratically elected officials whose policies we disagree with. And somehow that's Democratic activism??? Abiding by elections?
The judge denied tholen's motion to dismiss - in other words, there was enough to move forward. So it wasnt dismissed by the judge. Instead, it was turned over to Descano. He received $2,344 from tholen (vpap.org) and recused himself, turning this to James Hingeley, who, not surprisingly, determined that tholen did indeed do her job.
Descano and Jim are both happy recipients of funding from the Justice and Safety PAC (Descano received $601369 (vpap.org) and Jim $5,000. This is one of the PACs that sends money into local elections to tilt results in favor of far-left democrats.
That you think any local office is held by anyone “far-left” really puts your partisan agenda right up front.
Anonymous
08/29/2021 11:10
Subject: Places to Sign Recall Petitions - Tholen/Omeish/Cohen
Anonymous wrote:Well they can always try and recall the judge - but it’s the new normal - Don’t know how to lose fair and square - always the victim and blaming others - feel sorry for their kids - teachers know which parents are crazy- they really so obvious about it. I have friends that are counselors and teachers and they will not to the extra mile anymore for kids of these parents.
So did you feel the same way as pelosi and her dems tried to recall trump via impeachment?? Under your logic, that was also a waste of time.
anyway.....tholen, please step aside. we will not forget all the poor decisions you made. Many of us who voted for you before will NOT vote for you again.
Anonymous
08/29/2021 11:04
Subject: Places to Sign Recall Petitions - Tholen/Omeish/Cohen
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Open Fcps are such whiny losers.
Very mature - dont be a bully.
You all have been 'bullying' Tholen for a year. You can't take a day of legal celebrations in your opponent's favor?
We've been asking her to do her job; she didnt so we organized and brought her to court - and what happened yesterday was one Dem bailing out another Dem.
She did her job. You jist didn’t agree with her decisions. That doesn’t mean she should be recalled. A bunch of very entitled people tried this stunt and lost.
DP, but there are a lot of people in her district who don't agree with Tholen's decisions, whether it was her decisions about keeping schools closed, extending Brabrand's contract for a year, going along with TJ admissions changes that reduce the number of Dranesville students getting into TJHSST, or adjusting school boundaries to favor wealthy Langley.
I guess local Democratic activistscan keep calling everyone in Tholen's district who feels let down "entitled," but it doesn't position them very well for the next election.
You're not entitled if you disagree with a politician--that's democracy. You're acting entitled when you disagree with policies, make false accusations (as the court found), engineer a recall that is handily dismissed (and then cry foul about its dismissal). These heavy-handed efforts around a SB position that has been stressful to hold at this time just alienates the average voter--and will likely backfire against the group in the next election. I'm perfectly fine with there being a competitive election--I just really dislike this kind of stance that we will try to get rid of democratically elected officials whose policies we disagree with. And somehow that's Democratic activism??? Abiding by elections?
The judge denied tholen's motion to dismiss - in other words, there was enough to move forward. So it wasnt dismissed by the judge. Instead, it was turned over to Descano. He received $2,344 from tholen (vpap.org) and recused himself, turning this to James Hingeley, who, not surprisingly, determined that tholen did indeed do her job.
Descano and Jim are both happy recipients of funding from the Justice and Safety PAC (Descano received $601369 (vpap.org) and Jim $5,000. This is one of the PACs that sends money into local elections to tilt results in favor of far-left democrats.
Anonymous
08/22/2021 19:54
Subject: Re:Places to Sign Recall Petitions - Tholen/Omeish/Cohen
People aren't supposed to be active citizens with opinions they express freely.
They are supposed to be mere subjects.
They are supposed to be mere subjects.
Anonymous
08/22/2021 18:05
Subject: Places to Sign Recall Petitions - Tholen/Omeish/Cohen
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Well they can always try and recall the judge - but it’s the new normal - Don’t know how to lose fair and square - always the victim and blaming others - feel sorry for their kids - teachers know which parents are crazy- they really so obvious about it. I have friends that are counselors and teachers and they will not to the extra mile anymore for kids of these parents.
If you assume this is largely about energizing people for upcoming elections, the focus shouldn't be on recalling a local judge, who had little choice under the law when the prosecutor refused to pursue the case, but instead on:
* recalling the Commonwealth Attorney (Steve Descano), a Democrat (like Tholen) who kicked the case over to another Democratic Commonwealth's Attorney, who refused to pursue the case (shocking)
* continuing to highlight Tholen's bad decisions as a School Board member, which even if not meeting the legal standard for a recall ought to keep her from being re-elected.
Maybe if y’all recall every elected official in Fairfax County you’ll finally be happy?
No. Then they’d go & find some other irrational complaint.
You can always tell the party hacks encouraging people to shut up and take what they’re given.
Anonymous
08/22/2021 17:27
Subject: Places to Sign Recall Petitions - Tholen/Omeish/Cohen
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Well they can always try and recall the judge - but it’s the new normal - Don’t know how to lose fair and square - always the victim and blaming others - feel sorry for their kids - teachers know which parents are crazy- they really so obvious about it. I have friends that are counselors and teachers and they will not to the extra mile anymore for kids of these parents.
If you assume this is largely about energizing people for upcoming elections, the focus shouldn't be on recalling a local judge, who had little choice under the law when the prosecutor refused to pursue the case, but instead on:
* recalling the Commonwealth Attorney (Steve Descano), a Democrat (like Tholen) who kicked the case over to another Democratic Commonwealth's Attorney, who refused to pursue the case (shocking)
* continuing to highlight Tholen's bad decisions as a School Board member, which even if not meeting the legal standard for a recall ought to keep her from being re-elected.
Maybe if y’all recall every elected official in Fairfax County you’ll finally be happy?
No. Then they’d go & find some other irrational complaint.
Anonymous
08/22/2021 17:12
Subject: Re:Places to Sign Recall Petitions - Tholen/Omeish/Cohen
You can’t have it both ways. Fairfax is full of people who instinctively vote only for Democratic and won’t revisit that decision unless they get frequent reminders that their elected officials are only looking out for their own interests, not the best interests of their districts or constituents.
Anonymous
08/22/2021 16:21
Subject: Places to Sign Recall Petitions - Tholen/Omeish/Cohen
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Well they can always try and recall the judge - but it’s the new normal - Don’t know how to lose fair and square - always the victim and blaming others - feel sorry for their kids - teachers know which parents are crazy- they really so obvious about it. I have friends that are counselors and teachers and they will not to the extra mile anymore for kids of these parents.
If you assume this is largely about energizing people for upcoming elections, the focus shouldn't be on recalling a local judge, who had little choice under the law when the prosecutor refused to pursue the case, but instead on:
* recalling the Commonwealth Attorney (Steve Descano), a Democrat (like Tholen) who kicked the case over to another Democratic Commonwealth's Attorney, who refused to pursue the case (shocking)
* continuing to highlight Tholen's bad decisions as a School Board member, which even if not meeting the legal standard for a recall ought to keep her from being re-elected.
The only respons this "whatever." I would say votong out Decano next time around is a good idea. He is very bad, in my opinion, for Fairfax. A recall would be stupid and futile, but he should go - and should not have been elected in the first place. Not because of the Tholen thing, just because of has very poor decision-making in so many area.
Anonymous
08/22/2021 16:10
Subject: Places to Sign Recall Petitions - Tholen/Omeish/Cohen
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Well they can always try and recall the judge - but it’s the new normal - Don’t know how to lose fair and square - always the victim and blaming others - feel sorry for their kids - teachers know which parents are crazy- they really so obvious about it. I have friends that are counselors and teachers and they will not to the extra mile anymore for kids of these parents.
If you assume this is largely about energizing people for upcoming elections, the focus shouldn't be on recalling a local judge, who had little choice under the law when the prosecutor refused to pursue the case, but instead on:
* recalling the Commonwealth Attorney (Steve Descano), a Democrat (like Tholen) who kicked the case over to another Democratic Commonwealth's Attorney, who refused to pursue the case (shocking)
* continuing to highlight Tholen's bad decisions as a School Board member, which even if not meeting the legal standard for a recall ought to keep her from being re-elected.
Maybe if y’all recall every elected official in Fairfax County you’ll finally be happy?
I wouldn’t favor that. However, Tholen is a self-serving fraud propped up by a lot of other equally self-serving Democrats who value party unity and dominance over serving their constituents. The sooner these people are called out and removed by any legal means the better.
Anonymous
08/22/2021 15:32
Subject: Places to Sign Recall Petitions - Tholen/Omeish/Cohen
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Well they can always try and recall the judge - but it’s the new normal - Don’t know how to lose fair and square - always the victim and blaming others - feel sorry for their kids - teachers know which parents are crazy- they really so obvious about it. I have friends that are counselors and teachers and they will not to the extra mile anymore for kids of these parents.
If you assume this is largely about energizing people for upcoming elections, the focus shouldn't be on recalling a local judge, who had little choice under the law when the prosecutor refused to pursue the case, but instead on:
* recalling the Commonwealth Attorney (Steve Descano), a Democrat (like Tholen) who kicked the case over to another Democratic Commonwealth's Attorney, who refused to pursue the case (shocking)
* continuing to highlight Tholen's bad decisions as a School Board member, which even if not meeting the legal standard for a recall ought to keep her from being re-elected.
Maybe if y’all recall every elected official in Fairfax County you’ll finally be happy?
Anonymous
08/22/2021 14:35
Subject: Places to Sign Recall Petitions - Tholen/Omeish/Cohen
Anonymous wrote:Well they can always try and recall the judge - but it’s the new normal - Don’t know how to lose fair and square - always the victim and blaming others - feel sorry for their kids - teachers know which parents are crazy- they really so obvious about it. I have friends that are counselors and teachers and they will not to the extra mile anymore for kids of these parents.
If you assume this is largely about energizing people for upcoming elections, the focus shouldn't be on recalling a local judge, who had little choice under the law when the prosecutor refused to pursue the case, but instead on:
* recalling the Commonwealth Attorney (Steve Descano), a Democrat (like Tholen) who kicked the case over to another Democratic Commonwealth's Attorney, who refused to pursue the case (shocking)
* continuing to highlight Tholen's bad decisions as a School Board member, which even if not meeting the legal standard for a recall ought to keep her from being re-elected.
Anonymous
08/22/2021 11:06
Subject: Places to Sign Recall Petitions - Tholen/Omeish/Cohen
Anonymous wrote:Well they can always try and recall the judge - but it’s the new normal - Don’t know how to lose fair and square - always the victim and blaming others - feel sorry for their kids - teachers know which parents are crazy- they really so obvious about it. I have friends that are counselors and teachers and they will not to the extra mile anymore for kids of these parents.
Petty teachers taking out their issues on children is a tale as old as the school house itself.
Anonymous
08/22/2021 01:01
Subject: Places to Sign Recall Petitions - Tholen/Omeish/Cohen
Well they can always try and recall the judge - but it’s the new normal - Don’t know how to lose fair and square - always the victim and blaming others - feel sorry for their kids - teachers know which parents are crazy- they really so obvious about it. I have friends that are counselors and teachers and they will not to the extra mile anymore for kids of these parents.