Anonymous
Post 03/04/2023 10:42     Subject: S. Carolina double murder

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Anonymous wrote:This case is pretty much every Old South stereotype come to life. What a disgusting “culture.”


Interesting how we can judge the entire region by one person wrongdoing. Shall we apply the same judgement to the north culture based on Epstein conviction? And west culture based on Harvey Weinstein's crimes?


Do you not understand what “confirms a stereotype” means?

And having lived in the south, can confirm that this stereotype exists for a reason. Witnessed the “who’s your granddaddy?” privilege first hand. It’s not just one or two families.


The same generational connections exist in NY and Connecticut. Way more than one family as well. If you went to any Boston schools, you would know that.


It's true, but it's also true that because there was more public investment in the urban North--including the creation of jobs associated with industries and activities that places like Hampton SC have not had going on--there were also more routes around kissing the behinds of these generational mafias for normal people in cities like Boston and New York.


Chicago is renown for it's generational mafias.


It’s true, but the general tendency for urban centers to offer avenues of escape from this kind of dynastic power is also a real thing.


I'll grant you it's more easily hidden and disguised in an urban area.


You can take it from everyone in the HBO series describing the aspirations of the queer kid the Murdaughs killed. He wanted out--to a place that was not the rural South--for this reason.

Anonymous
Post 03/04/2023 10:40     Subject: Re:S. Carolina double murder

I think Murdaugh is guilty as sin and Faulkner couldn’t have written a more deliciously scandalous and tragic story of family downfall.

That said, having lived all over the country I can attest that the same kind of small town corrupt dynastic BS happens everywhere, not just the south. It’s not worse in the south than anywhere else. Human nature is what it is and human scum rises in every pond.
Anonymous
Post 03/04/2023 10:34     Subject: S. Carolina double murder

I’m the PP, but this question is unrelated to the previous one.

Has anyone heard the jailhouse phone calls? I can post a link, but one of them sounds like he was asking Buster to go to Moselle to get or move something. I’m certain he wasn’t actually talking about hunting, though those were the words used. His attorney said many times in trial that he’s a city boy, and doesn’t hunt.

If it’s not already here, I can look for a link later on.
Anonymous
Post 03/04/2023 10:29     Subject: S. Carolina double murder

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Anonymous wrote:In 10 days defense will file an appeal. Seems like there are multiple reasons that it is merited.

Also how could he get a fair and impartial jury in that small town with so much press, shows and documentaries out there?


He testified in his own defense. What possible appeal is going to overcome that??


Are you an attorney? I hope there is none but the defense sure will be looking for one. I am stunned by what the judge said to murdaugh: that people have received the death penalty for less than what he did. I almost thought that he was going to recommend that sentence. I thought the closing argument by John Meadors sealed the guilty verdict, coupled with the defenses, which was terrible. A juror said that it took only about 45 minutes to an hour to come to an agreement. When they started it was 9 guilty, 2 not guilty and 1 undecided.



I am not an attorney, just a nerd. They could appeal the 404(b)/financial crime evidence, but that isn’t going to help them win an appeal. The appellate judges will see that the jury heard his side, and didn’t believe him. End of story.
Anonymous
Post 03/04/2023 10:13     Subject: S. Carolina double murder

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This case is pretty much every Old South stereotype come to life. What a disgusting “culture.”


Interesting how we can judge the entire region by one person wrongdoing. Shall we apply the same judgement to the north culture based on Epstein conviction? And west culture based on Harvey Weinstein's crimes?


Do you not understand what “confirms a stereotype” means?

And having lived in the south, can confirm that this stereotype exists for a reason. Witnessed the “who’s your granddaddy?” privilege first hand. It’s not just one or two families.


The same generational connections exist in NY and Connecticut. Way more than one family as well. If you went to any Boston schools, you would know that.


It's true, but it's also true that because there was more public investment in the urban North--including the creation of jobs associated with industries and activities that places like Hampton SC have not had going on--there were also more routes around kissing the behinds of these generational mafias for normal people in cities like Boston and New York.


Chicago is renown for it's generational mafias.


It’s true, but the general tendency for urban centers to offer avenues of escape from this kind of dynastic power is also a real thing.


I'll grant you it's more easily hidden and disguised in an urban area.
Anonymous
Post 03/04/2023 09:55     Subject: S. Carolina double murder

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This case is pretty much every Old South stereotype come to life. What a disgusting “culture.”


Interesting how we can judge the entire region by one person wrongdoing. Shall we apply the same judgement to the north culture based on Epstein conviction? And west culture based on Harvey Weinstein's crimes?


Do you not understand what “confirms a stereotype” means?

And having lived in the south, can confirm that this stereotype exists for a reason. Witnessed the “who’s your granddaddy?” privilege first hand. It’s not just one or two families.


The same generational connections exist in NY and Connecticut. Way more than one family as well. If you went to any Boston schools, you would know that.


It's true, but it's also true that because there was more public investment in the urban North--including the creation of jobs associated with industries and activities that places like Hampton SC have not had going on--there were also more routes around kissing the behinds of these generational mafias for normal people in cities like Boston and New York.


Chicago is renown for it's generational mafias.


It’s true, but the general tendency for urban centers to offer avenues of escape from this kind of dynastic power is also a real thing.


Riiiight.😂
Anonymous
Post 03/04/2023 09:46     Subject: Re:S. Carolina double murder

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't read through all these pages but I don't think he did it. They found unidentified DNA under the wife's fingernails. The motive, that he was trying to distract people away from his embezzlement, seems like a very weak motive to use to kill your own child (I know murdering wives is more common). I believe what he said, that he lied about his being at the kennel because he knew the police already thought he did it and he was scared to say anything. The guy is definitely a bad person, but I think the investigation was very lazy and never looked hard at anyone else.


You didn’t hear the video that Paw-Paw sent Ro-Ro about Cash the dog. In it you can clearly hear Mags’ and Elick’s voices talking about a chicken in Bubba’s mouth. This was 5 minutes b4 they were killed. To me, this was the damming piece of evidence.


and I like when "Mags" cries gleefully "He's got a bird in his mouth!" about the dog. #GoodTimes


From the photos, I believe is was a dog toy/stuffed animal, not a live bird/chicken.


I hope you are joking about this.


They also believe that Mag's bike was still standing up in the front yard of Moselle 1.5 years after anyone had been to the house.
Anonymous
Post 03/04/2023 09:32     Subject: S. Carolina double murder

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This case is pretty much every Old South stereotype come to life. What a disgusting “culture.”


Interesting how we can judge the entire region by one person wrongdoing. Shall we apply the same judgement to the north culture based on Epstein conviction? And west culture based on Harvey Weinstein's crimes?


Do you not understand what “confirms a stereotype” means?

And having lived in the south, can confirm that this stereotype exists for a reason. Witnessed the “who’s your granddaddy?” privilege first hand. It’s not just one or two families.


The same generational connections exist in NY and Connecticut. Way more than one family as well. If you went to any Boston schools, you would know that.


It's true, but it's also true that because there was more public investment in the urban North--including the creation of jobs associated with industries and activities that places like Hampton SC have not had going on--there were also more routes around kissing the behinds of these generational mafias for normal people in cities like Boston and New York.


Chicago is renown for it's generational mafias.


It’s true, but the general tendency for urban centers to offer avenues of escape from this kind of dynastic power is also a real thing.
Anonymous
Post 03/04/2023 08:47     Subject: S. Carolina double murder

Yes, I saw that, both of his defense lawyers. I need to detox from this trial but feel the skeletons will keep rattling for awhile
Anonymous
Post 03/04/2023 08:37     Subject: Re:S. Carolina double murder

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Anonymous wrote:Now isn’t this interesting, Murdaugh’s lawyer, Dick Harpootlian, is also a SC Democratic state senator.


The family is Democrat.


Why would a Senator take this case, doesn’t it open up doors into if money he received for his campaign was by murdaugh’s thievery and why would he be associated with such an evil man and expect reelection


He doesn't care. They have all acted with impunity for decades. The political, business, and social inbreeding there is just how it is. That is how all of this happened in the first place. The legal profession there is tight.

Ironically and sadly, Harpootlian was initially the attorney for Paul in his boat crash.
Anonymous
Post 03/04/2023 08:36     Subject: Re:S. Carolina double murder

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Anonymous wrote:Now isn’t this interesting, Murdaugh’s lawyer, Dick Harpootlian, is also a SC Democratic state senator.


The family is Democrat.


Why would a Senator take this case, doesn’t it open up doors into if money he received for his campaign was by murdaugh’s thievery and why would he be associated with such an evil man and expect reelection


The Murdaughs and all of their law partners are Dems because they are TRIAL LAWYERS. It's not about anything else.

Harpootlian is a Dixiecrat and I think gerrymandered out now.
Anonymous
Post 03/04/2023 08:34     Subject: Re:S. Carolina double murder

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I didn't read through all these pages but I don't think he did it. They found unidentified DNA under the wife's fingernails. The motive, that he was trying to distract people away from his embezzlement, seems like a very weak motive to use to kill your own child (I know murdering wives is more common). I believe what he said, that he lied about his being at the kennel because he knew the police already thought he did it and he was scared to say anything. The guy is definitely a bad person, but I think the investigation was very lazy and never looked hard at anyone else.


You didn’t hear the video that Paw-Paw sent Ro-Ro about Cash the dog. In it you can clearly hear Mags’ and Elick’s voices talking about a chicken in Bubba’s mouth. This was 5 minutes b4 they were killed. To me, this was the damming piece of evidence.


and I like when "Mags" cries gleefully "He's got a bird in his mouth!" about the dog. #GoodTimes


From the photos, I believe is was a dog toy/stuffed animal, not a live bird/chicken.


I hope you are joking about this.
Anonymous
Post 03/04/2023 08:34     Subject: Re:S. Carolina double murder

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Now isn’t this interesting, Murdaugh’s lawyer, Dick Harpootlian, is also a SC Democratic state senator.


The family is Democrat.


Why would a Senator take this case, doesn’t it open up doors into if money he received for his campaign was by murdaugh’s thievery and why would he be associated with such an evil man and expect reelection
Anonymous
Post 03/04/2023 08:25     Subject: Re:S. Carolina double murder

Anonymous wrote:Now isn’t this interesting, Murdaugh’s lawyer, Dick Harpootlian, is also a SC Democratic state senator.


The family is Democrat.
Anonymous
Post 03/04/2023 08:22     Subject: S. Carolina double murder

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This case is pretty much every Old South stereotype come to life. What a disgusting “culture.”


Interesting how we can judge the entire region by one person wrongdoing. Shall we apply the same judgement to the north culture based on Epstein conviction? And west culture based on Harvey Weinstein's crimes?


Do you not understand what “confirms a stereotype” means?

And having lived in the south, can confirm that this stereotype exists for a reason. Witnessed the “who’s your granddaddy?” privilege first hand. It’s not just one or two families.


The same generational connections exist in NY and Connecticut. Way more than one family as well. If you went to any Boston schools, you would know that.


It's true, but it's also true that because there was more public investment in the urban North--including the creation of jobs associated with industries and activities that places like Hampton SC have not had going on--there were also more routes around kissing the behinds of these generational mafias for normal people in cities like Boston and New York.


Chicago is renown for it's generational mafias.