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Anonymous wrote:There’s a low-t beta on this thread posting from his mom’s basement who has listened to a couple Jordan Peterson podcasts and now feels he must do something to save Dr. Seuss from what he has determined to be “cancel culture” and “postmodern” thought. To him this issue is a personal attack on his own existence even though he owns none of the books. After all, who’d have children with him?

Oh brother. You pretty clever to figure out the Jordan Peterson connection, but I think Jordan Peterson gets too much wrong to be of any use. What he gets right, he gets garbled from other people. You heard bad things about him and he sounds crazy so he must be bad. But you can't actually tell me what's wrong with what I said either. So you came up with this fancy insult that says nothing.

Oh it says something alright. You’re just to dense to get it.

DP

Really. You think I sound like Jordan Peterson? And you literally can't think of ANY other source for my ideas? No other philosophical psychopaths I might have read and perhaps you did not?

And you gathered somehow that I think postmodernism is bad, like he does? Really? This is what getting all your information spoon fed on the internet does to people. Turn it off and read some old books or something before the publisher drops them for racism.

Wow.

Nope. Still don’t get it do you? It’s going to be okay. Society is moving on from your type, but no one is out to get you. The existential panic you’re having is wholly synthetic.

No you don't get it. You don't know me. You don't know what I read or don't read. You can't read my mind. You just think you do. So you end up talking to a fantasy you made up yourself. You are "reassuring" a person who doesn't exist. No idea why you think you have some kind of special insight into anonymous strangers, but I'm not a mind reader either.

People glean who you are from the words you write, so you're either A) a terrible communicator, or B) exactly who the poster you're quoting says you are.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/ebay-removes-discontinued-dr-seuss-books-1573824%3famp=1

eBay won’t let you sell or buy the handful of Seuss books because they’ve been deemed offensive.

This is the ripple effect. While the Seuss publishers can make a business decision not to publish, the reality is the accompanying rhetoric has an impact. The takeaway is racism, and it will likely impact the entire catalogue.

Let’s see how book sales of the cat in the hat do year over year moving forward. My guess is there will be a dramatic decrease because most people won’t want to inadvertently offend anyone.

Is Ebay a government entity?

If not, it isn't censorship, its capitalism.

Lots of naivete online about tech oligarchs: they're governmental, alright. Don't fool yourself about this stuff, the person you're cheating might just be yourself.

Lots of naivete about how we got to this point and what we can do about it. There are two choices:
1. Pass a law restricting the free speech of corporations. It would probably be unconstitutional due to Citizens United.
2. Organize boycotts. I'm perfectly willing to participate in these as appropriate. But I rarely buy books or use Ebay- we are a library family. So it doesn't make sense for me to boycott in this case. You are free to give it a go.

B.S. That list isn't MECE, Einstein.

The real option is to re-legilate how tech companies operate. At present they harness public investment for private gain, creating weird private profits and prerogatives. They are among our ages' greatest cancers, along with things like the fossil fuel industry, finance, weapons+defense, etc.

Republicans don't believe in controlling how companies operate.

Either do Democrats. We just like sensible anti-trust regulations.

Ebay doesn't have a monopoly. Plenty of options for buying and selling used goods online. Got any other ideas?

It's got a semi-monopoly, like other tech giants. Not control, but if the big guys don't carry it, it's harder to find. And socially, that's exactly what many people want, so Ebay is favoring the view that these books shojld be hard to find.

So Ebay doesn't have a monopoly.
And most people don't want to buy the book.
So what is the problem? That a small number of people want to buy the book and can't?

There are lots of things that I want to buy that are no longer available for purchase. I wish I could buy a tee shirt like the Gap used to make in the early 2000s. And A particular work blouse that I loved, loved, loved and is no longer made or on Ebay. That isn't censorship.

I buy and sell specialty books on Ebay. Ebay and Amazon are the main markets for this. You can in fact find very old rare books on ebay, people do want them, and if you follow the market, you can figure out a good price easily. For many things, if it isn't on Ebay, it either doesn't exist at all, or the handful of people who might have it aren't selling. Or you've got to hunt specialty markets, like the pre-internet days. For people who want these things, like me, Ebay is the greatest thing in the world. What they allow or don't allow does effect me. People like me should have a voice in how society (through Ebay and other outlets) controls this corner of our lives. I don't see why that's such strange thing to want, even of I cab't have that right now. I really believe that some day we will have better answers that make everybody happier. I
These sorts of controversies have happened before. We figured it out then. We'll figure it now.

Free markets never really existed anyway. Always been controlled one or another, often informally. Free speech also has informal controls. Publisher controlling what they print based on social considerations of racism is a type of informal control, whether you recognize it or not. In fact, informal controls are often difficult to recognize and "subjective." But they are still a type of control if it's harder for me to get a book and even harder to talk about it.

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Anonymous wrote:There’s a low-t beta on this thread posting from his mom’s basement who has listened to a couple Jordan Peterson podcasts and now feels he must do something to save Dr. Seuss from what he has determined to be “cancel culture” and “postmodern” thought. To him this issue is a personal attack on his own existence even though he owns none of the books. After all, who’d have children with him?

Oh brother. You pretty clever to figure out the Jordan Peterson connection, but I think Jordan Peterson gets too much wrong to be of any use. What he gets right, he gets garbled from other people. You heard bad things about him and he sounds crazy so he must be bad. But you can't actually tell me what's wrong with what I said either. So you came up with this fancy insult that says nothing.

Oh it says something alright. You’re just to dense to get it.

DP

Really. You think I sound like Jordan Peterson? And you literally can't think of ANY other source for my ideas? No other philosophical psychopaths I might have read and perhaps you did not?

And you gathered somehow that I think postmodernism is bad, like he does? Really? This is what getting all your information spoon fed on the internet does to people. Turn it off and read some old books or something before the publisher drops them for racism.

Wow.

Nope. Still don’t get it do you? It’s going to be okay. Society is moving on from your type, but no one is out to get you. The existential panic you’re having is wholly synthetic.

No you don't get it. You don't know me. You don't know what I read or don't read. You can't read my mind. You just think you do. So you end up talking to a fantasy you made up yourself. You are "reassuring" a person who doesn't exist. No idea why you think you have some kind of special insight into anonymous strangers, but I'm not a mind reader either.

DP...whether you know it or not, your words reflect the kind of person you are.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/ebay-removes-discontinued-dr-seuss-books-1573824%3famp=1

eBay won’t let you sell or buy the handful of Seuss books because they’ve been deemed offensive.

This is the ripple effect. While the Seuss publishers can make a business decision not to publish, the reality is the accompanying rhetoric has an impact. The takeaway is racism, and it will likely impact the entire catalogue.

Let’s see how book sales of the cat in the hat do year over year moving forward. My guess is there will be a dramatic decrease because most people won’t want to inadvertently offend anyone.

Is Ebay a government entity?

If not, it isn't censorship, its capitalism.

Lots of naivete online about tech oligarchs: they're governmental, alright. Don't fool yourself about this stuff, the person you're cheating might just be yourself.

DP. Governmental is the wrong word. But they do have power, and they are not neutral. People are complaining about how they use their power but have no voice to influence them.

They lost the civil war
They lost WW2
They lost at the Civil Rights Act and follow-on equality

And yet, here we are, still catering to their 17th century sensibilities.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/ebay-removes-discontinued-dr-seuss-books-1573824%3famp=1

eBay won’t let you sell or buy the handful of Seuss books because they’ve been deemed offensive.

This is the ripple effect. While the Seuss publishers can make a business decision not to publish, the reality is the accompanying rhetoric has an impact. The takeaway is racism, and it will likely impact the entire catalogue.

Let’s see how book sales of the cat in the hat do year over year moving forward. My guess is there will be a dramatic decrease because most people won’t want to inadvertently offend anyone.

Is Ebay a government entity?

If not, it isn't censorship, its capitalism.

Lots of naivete online about tech oligarchs: they're governmental, alright. Don't fool yourself about this stuff, the person you're cheating might just be yourself.

Lots of naivete about how we got to this point and what we can do about it. There are two choices:
1. Pass a law restricting the free speech of corporations. It would probably be unconstitutional due to Citizens United.
2. Organize boycotts. I'm perfectly willing to participate in these as appropriate. But I rarely buy books or use Ebay- we are a library family. So it doesn't make sense for me to boycott in this case. You are free to give it a go.

B.S. That list isn't MECE, Einstein.

The real option is to re-legilate how tech companies operate. At present they harness public investment for private gain, creating weird private profits and prerogatives. They are among our ages' greatest cancers, along with things like the fossil fuel industry, finance, weapons+defense, etc.

Republicans don't believe in controlling how companies operate.

Either do Democrats. We just like sensible anti-trust regulations.

Ebay doesn't have a monopoly. Plenty of options for buying and selling used goods online. Got any other ideas?

It's got a semi-monopoly, like other tech giants. Not control, but if the big guys don't carry it, it's harder to find. And socially, that's exactly what many people want, so Ebay is favoring the view that these books shojld be hard to find.

So Ebay doesn't have a monopoly.
And most people don't want to buy the book.
So what is the problem? That a small number of people want to buy the book and can't?

There are lots of things that I want to buy that are no longer available for purchase. I wish I could buy a tee shirt like the Gap used to make in the early 2000s. And A particular work blouse that I loved, loved, loved and is no longer made or on Ebay. That isn't censorship.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/ebay-removes-discontinued-dr-seuss-books-1573824%3famp=1

eBay won’t let you sell or buy the handful of Seuss books because they’ve been deemed offensive.

This is the ripple effect. While the Seuss publishers can make a business decision not to publish, the reality is the accompanying rhetoric has an impact. The takeaway is racism, and it will likely impact the entire catalogue.

Let’s see how book sales of the cat in the hat do year over year moving forward. My guess is there will be a dramatic decrease because most people won’t want to inadvertently offend anyone.

Is Ebay a government entity?

If not, it isn't censorship, its capitalism.

Lots of naivete online about tech oligarchs: they're governmental, alright. Don't fool yourself about this stuff, the person you're cheating might just be yourself.

Lots of naivete about how we got to this point and what we can do about it. There are two choices:
1. Pass a law restricting the free speech of corporations. It would probably be unconstitutional due to Citizens United.
2. Organize boycotts. I'm perfectly willing to participate in these as appropriate. But I rarely buy books or use Ebay- we are a library family. So it doesn't make sense for me to boycott in this case. You are free to give it a go.

B.S. That list isn't MECE, Einstein.

The real option is to re-legilate how tech companies operate. At present they harness public investment for private gain, creating weird private profits and prerogatives. They are among our ages' greatest cancers, along with things like the fossil fuel industry, finance, weapons+defense, etc.

Republicans don't believe in controlling how companies operate.

Either do Democrats. We just like sensible anti-trust regulations.

Ebay doesn't have a monopoly. Plenty of options for buying and selling used goods online. Got any other ideas?

It's got a semi-monopoly, like other tech giants. Not control, but if the big guys don't carry it, it's harder to find. And socially, that's exactly what many people want, so Ebay is favoring the view that these books shojld be hard to find.

Ebay is not a tech giant.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_technology_companies_by_revenue

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Anonymous wrote:There’s a low-t beta on this thread posting from his mom’s basement who has listened to a couple Jordan Peterson podcasts and now feels he must do something to save Dr. Seuss from what he has determined to be “cancel culture” and “postmodern” thought. To him this issue is a personal attack on his own existence even though he owns none of the books. After all, who’d have children with him?

Oh brother. You pretty clever to figure out the Jordan Peterson connection, but I think Jordan Peterson gets too much wrong to be of any use. What he gets right, he gets garbled from other people. You heard bad things about him and he sounds crazy so he must be bad. But you can't actually tell me what's wrong with what I said either. So you came up with this fancy insult that says nothing.

Oh it says something alright. You’re just to dense to get it.

DP

Really. You think I sound like Jordan Peterson? And you literally can't think of ANY other source for my ideas? No other philosophical psychopaths I might have read and perhaps you did not?

And you gathered somehow that I think postmodernism is bad, like he does? Really? This is what getting all your information spoon fed on the internet does to people. Turn it off and read some old books or something before the publisher drops them for racism.

Wow.

Nope. Still don’t get it do you? It’s going to be okay. Society is moving on from your type, but no one is out to get you. The existential panic you’re having is wholly synthetic.

No you don't get it. You don't know me. You don't know what I read or don't read. You can't read my mind. You just think you do. So you end up talking to a fantasy you made up yourself. You are "reassuring" a person who doesn't exist. No idea why you think you have some kind of special insight into anonymous strangers, but I'm not a mind reader either.

I can’t read your mind, but I’m pretty good at reading letters and figuring out the subtext—something you apparently can’t do very well, or you wouldn’t be defending these books

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/ebay-removes-discontinued-dr-seuss-books-1573824%3famp=1

eBay won’t let you sell or buy the handful of Seuss books because they’ve been deemed offensive.

This is the ripple effect. While the Seuss publishers can make a business decision not to publish, the reality is the accompanying rhetoric has an impact. The takeaway is racism, and it will likely impact the entire catalogue.

Let’s see how book sales of the cat in the hat do year over year moving forward. My guess is there will be a dramatic decrease because most people won’t want to inadvertently offend anyone.

Is Ebay a government entity?

If not, it isn't censorship, its capitalism.

Lots of naivete online about tech oligarchs: they're governmental, alright. Don't fool yourself about this stuff, the person you're cheating might just be yourself.

Lots of naivete about how we got to this point and what we can do about it. There are two choices:
1. Pass a law restricting the free speech of corporations. It would probably be unconstitutional due to Citizens United.
2. Organize boycotts. I'm perfectly willing to participate in these as appropriate. But I rarely buy books or use Ebay- we are a library family. So it doesn't make sense for me to boycott in this case. You are free to give it a go.

B.S. That list isn't MECE, Einstein.

The real option is to re-legilate how tech companies operate. At present they harness public investment for private gain, creating weird private profits and prerogatives. They are among our ages' greatest cancers, along with things like the fossil fuel industry, finance, weapons+defense, etc.

Republicans don't believe in controlling how companies operate.

Either do Democrats. We just like sensible anti-trust regulations.

Ebay doesn't have a monopoly. Plenty of options for buying and selling used goods online. Got any other ideas?

It's got a semi-monopoly, like other tech giants. Not control, but if the big guys don't carry it, it's harder to find. And socially, that's exactly what many people want, so Ebay is favoring the view that these books shojld be hard to find.

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Anonymous wrote:There’s a low-t beta on this thread posting from his mom’s basement who has listened to a couple Jordan Peterson podcasts and now feels he must do something to save Dr. Seuss from what he has determined to be “cancel culture” and “postmodern” thought. To him this issue is a personal attack on his own existence even though he owns none of the books. After all, who’d have children with him?

Oh brother. You pretty clever to figure out the Jordan Peterson connection, but I think Jordan Peterson gets too much wrong to be of any use. What he gets right, he gets garbled from other people. You heard bad things about him and he sounds crazy so he must be bad. But you can't actually tell me what's wrong with what I said either. So you came up with this fancy insult that says nothing.

Oh it says something alright. You’re just to dense to get it.

DP

Really. You think I sound like Jordan Peterson? And you literally can't think of ANY other source for my ideas? No other philosophical psychopaths I might have read and perhaps you did not?

And you gathered somehow that I think postmodernism is bad, like he does? Really? This is what getting all your information spoon fed on the internet does to people. Turn it off and read some old books or something before the publisher drops them for racism.

Wow.

Nope. Still don’t get it do you? It’s going to be okay. Society is moving on from your type, but no one is out to get you. The existential panic you’re having is wholly synthetic.

No you don't get it. You don't know me. You don't know what I read or don't read. You can't read my mind. You just think you do. So you end up talking to a fantasy you made up yourself. You are "reassuring" a person who doesn't exist. No idea why you think you have some kind of special insight into anonymous strangers, but I'm not a mind reader either.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/ebay-removes-discontinued-dr-seuss-books-1573824%3famp=1

eBay won’t let you sell or buy the handful of Seuss books because they’ve been deemed offensive.

This is the ripple effect. While the Seuss publishers can make a business decision not to publish, the reality is the accompanying rhetoric has an impact. The takeaway is racism, and it will likely impact the entire catalogue.

Let’s see how book sales of the cat in the hat do year over year moving forward. My guess is there will be a dramatic decrease because most people won’t want to inadvertently offend anyone.

Is Ebay a government entity?

If not, it isn't censorship, its capitalism.

Lots of naivete online about tech oligarchs: they're governmental, alright. Don't fool yourself about this stuff, the person you're cheating might just be yourself.

Lots of naivete about how we got to this point and what we can do about it. There are two choices:
1. Pass a law restricting the free speech of corporations. It would probably be unconstitutional due to Citizens United.
2. Organize boycotts. I'm perfectly willing to participate in these as appropriate. But I rarely buy books or use Ebay- we are a library family. So it doesn't make sense for me to boycott in this case. You are free to give it a go.

B.S. That list isn't MECE, Einstein.

The real option is to re-legilate how tech companies operate. At present they harness public investment for private gain, creating weird private profits and prerogatives. They are among our ages' greatest cancers, along with things like the fossil fuel industry, finance, weapons+defense, etc.

Republicans don't believe in controlling how companies operate.

Either do Democrats. We just like sensible anti-trust regulations.

Ebay doesn't have a monopoly. Plenty of options for buying and selling used goods online. Got any other ideas?

I don’t have a problem with eBay.

Me neither! If they want to stop selling Dr. Seuss books, that is fine with me.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/ebay-removes-discontinued-dr-seuss-books-1573824%3famp=1

eBay won’t let you sell or buy the handful of Seuss books because they’ve been deemed offensive.

This is the ripple effect. While the Seuss publishers can make a business decision not to publish, the reality is the accompanying rhetoric has an impact. The takeaway is racism, and it will likely impact the entire catalogue.

Let’s see how book sales of the cat in the hat do year over year moving forward. My guess is there will be a dramatic decrease because most people won’t want to inadvertently offend anyone.

Is Ebay a government entity?

If not, it isn't censorship, its capitalism.

Lots of naivete online about tech oligarchs: they're governmental, alright. Don't fool yourself about this stuff, the person you're cheating might just be yourself.

Lots of naivete about how we got to this point and what we can do about it. There are two choices:
1. Pass a law restricting the free speech of corporations. It would probably be unconstitutional due to Citizens United.
2. Organize boycotts. I'm perfectly willing to participate in these as appropriate. But I rarely buy books or use Ebay- we are a library family. So it doesn't make sense for me to boycott in this case. You are free to give it a go.

B.S. That list isn't MECE, Einstein.

The real option is to re-legilate how tech companies operate. At present they harness public investment for private gain, creating weird private profits and prerogatives. They are among our ages' greatest cancers, along with things like the fossil fuel industry, finance, weapons+defense, etc.

Republicans don't believe in controlling how companies operate.

Either do Democrats. We just like sensible anti-trust regulations.

Ebay doesn't have a monopoly. Plenty of options for buying and selling used goods online. Got any other ideas?

I don’t have a problem with eBay.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/ebay-removes-discontinued-dr-seuss-books-1573824%3famp=1

eBay won’t let you sell or buy the handful of Seuss books because they’ve been deemed offensive.

This is the ripple effect. While the Seuss publishers can make a business decision not to publish, the reality is the accompanying rhetoric has an impact. The takeaway is racism, and it will likely impact the entire catalogue.

Let’s see how book sales of the cat in the hat do year over year moving forward. My guess is there will be a dramatic decrease because most people won’t want to inadvertently offend anyone.

Is Ebay a government entity?

If not, it isn't censorship, its capitalism.

Lots of naivete online about tech oligarchs: they're governmental, alright. Don't fool yourself about this stuff, the person you're cheating might just be yourself.

Lots of naivete about how we got to this point and what we can do about it. There are two choices:
1. Pass a law restricting the free speech of corporations. It would probably be unconstitutional due to Citizens United.
2. Organize boycotts. I'm perfectly willing to participate in these as appropriate. But I rarely buy books or use Ebay- we are a library family. So it doesn't make sense for me to boycott in this case. You are free to give it a go.

B.S. That list isn't MECE, Einstein.

The real option is to re-legilate how tech companies operate. At present they harness public investment for private gain, creating weird private profits and prerogatives. They are among our ages' greatest cancers, along with things like the fossil fuel industry, finance, weapons+defense, etc.

Republicans don't believe in controlling how companies operate.

Either do Democrats. We just like sensible anti-trust regulations.

Ebay doesn't have a monopoly. Plenty of options for buying and selling used goods online. Got any other ideas?

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/ebay-removes-discontinued-dr-seuss-books-1573824%3famp=1

eBay won’t let you sell or buy the handful of Seuss books because they’ve been deemed offensive.

This is the ripple effect. While the Seuss publishers can make a business decision not to publish, the reality is the accompanying rhetoric has an impact. The takeaway is racism, and it will likely impact the entire catalogue.

Let’s see how book sales of the cat in the hat do year over year moving forward. My guess is there will be a dramatic decrease because most people won’t want to inadvertently offend anyone.

Is Ebay a government entity?

If not, it isn't censorship, its capitalism.

Lots of naivete online about tech oligarchs: they're governmental, alright. Don't fool yourself about this stuff, the person you're cheating might just be yourself.

Lots of naivete about how we got to this point and what we can do about it. There are two choices:
1. Pass a law restricting the free speech of corporations. It would probably be unconstitutional due to Citizens United.
2. Organize boycotts. I'm perfectly willing to participate in these as appropriate. But I rarely buy books or use Ebay- we are a library family. So it doesn't make sense for me to boycott in this case. You are free to give it a go.

It's pretty remarkable to watch Republicans do a 180 on this issue. In 2010 they argued that corporations have a right to unlimited political spending due to the First Amendment. In 2017, they argued that corporations needed a huge permanent tax cut. In 2020, they argued that corporations needed a government bailout because they create jobs and help everyone. Throughout the Trump presidency, they slashed corporate regulations. And *now* they suddenly notice that maybe these corporations have more power over ordinary people than they should.

Agree, but It's even weirder how tech companies and all their crap have a BFF in so many Democrats. Party of the little person? I wish!

Democrats aren’t socialists. Sorry. We like capitalism, when it’s regulated.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/ebay-removes-discontinued-dr-seuss-books-1573824%3famp=1

eBay won’t let you sell or buy the handful of Seuss books because they’ve been deemed offensive.

This is the ripple effect. While the Seuss publishers can make a business decision not to publish, the reality is the accompanying rhetoric has an impact. The takeaway is racism, and it will likely impact the entire catalogue.

Let’s see how book sales of the cat in the hat do year over year moving forward. My guess is there will be a dramatic decrease because most people won’t want to inadvertently offend anyone.

Is Ebay a government entity?

If not, it isn't censorship, its capitalism.

Lots of naivete online about tech oligarchs: they're governmental, alright. Don't fool yourself about this stuff, the person you're cheating might just be yourself.

Lots of naivete about how we got to this point and what we can do about it. There are two choices:
1. Pass a law restricting the free speech of corporations. It would probably be unconstitutional due to Citizens United.
2. Organize boycotts. I'm perfectly willing to participate in these as appropriate. But I rarely buy books or use Ebay- we are a library family. So it doesn't make sense for me to boycott in this case. You are free to give it a go.

It's pretty remarkable to watch Republicans do a 180 on this issue. In 2010 they argued that corporations have a right to unlimited political spending due to the First Amendment. In 2017, they argued that corporations needed a huge permanent tax cut. In 2020, they argued that corporations needed a government bailout because they create jobs and help everyone. Throughout the Trump presidency, they slashed corporate regulations. And *now* they suddenly notice that maybe these corporations have more power over ordinary people than they should.

Agree, but It's even weirder how tech companies and all their crap have a BFF in so many Democrats. Party of the little person? I wish!

I'm pretty sure that both Democrats and Republicans are after the tech companies, but for totally different reasons. So nothing will be done. Tech companies win. Everyone else loses.

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eBay won’t let you sell or buy the handful of Seuss books because they’ve been deemed offensive.

This is the ripple effect. While the Seuss publishers can make a business decision not to publish, the reality is the accompanying rhetoric has an impact. The takeaway is racism, and it will likely impact the entire catalogue.

Let’s see how book sales of the cat in the hat do year over year moving forward. My guess is there will be a dramatic decrease because most people won’t want to inadvertently offend anyone.

Is Ebay a government entity?

If not, it isn't censorship, its capitalism.

Lots of naivete online about tech oligarchs: they're governmental, alright. Don't fool yourself about this stuff, the person you're cheating might just be yourself.

Lots of naivete about how we got to this point and what we can do about it. There are two choices:
1. Pass a law restricting the free speech of corporations. It would probably be unconstitutional due to Citizens United.
2. Organize boycotts. I'm perfectly willing to participate in these as appropriate. But I rarely buy books or use Ebay- we are a library family. So it doesn't make sense for me to boycott in this case. You are free to give it a go.

B.S. That list isn't MECE, Einstein.

The real option is to re-legilate how tech companies operate. At present they harness public investment for private gain, creating weird private profits and prerogatives. They are among our ages' greatest cancers, along with things like the fossil fuel industry, finance, weapons+defense, etc.

Republicans don't believe in controlling how companies operate.

Either do Democrats. We just like sensible anti-trust regulations.