Anonymous
05/04/2020 10:18
Subject: Soooo, how is high-density looking to everyone now?
Anonymous wrote:People somehow don't understand that not everyone pays taxes, or pays enough to justify their services. Just paying for school alone, the district apparently spends almost $22k per year per student. People want to build all these 1 and 2 bedroom apartments which including affordable units. You're going to be moving people in with 2 kids and a HHI of 60k. So their contribution to DC taxes is like $3,600 per household. Enjoy educating their children and having them depreciate the infrastructure.
Plenty of people who don't have kids at all also pay taxes, though, so this argument is sort of off base.
Anonymous
05/04/2020 10:17
Subject: Soooo, how is high-density looking to everyone now?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There's a lot of room for policies in between "let's make parts of D.C. denser than they are now to improve long-term sustainability and boost housing affordability" and "let's make all of D.C. as dense as New York City." This is a straw man argument at heart (so naturally, it's gone on for 42 pages and counting...).
Parts of DC are already more densely populated than parts of NYC.
And those are not the parts that are likely being targeted for increased density.
So why should Great neighborhoods like Chevy Chase, Cleveland Park and AU Park be “targeted” for increased density ?!
I live in AU Park and think we could easily accommodate significantly more density without losing any of the characteristics that make the neighborhood great, let alone without worrying about safety. If every block had one or two 4-unit apartment buildings where there's now a single-family house, my life wouldn't change a bit, but a lot more people would be able to afford to live here.
The schools are bursting at the seams. Ridiculously irresponsible in a time of public health crisis brought on by density to advocate for this.
The public health crisis is not "brought on by density," it's brought on by a virus.
The schools are not "bursting at the seams." My kids' classes would be fine with another three or four kids in each one. Maybe it wouldn't be the 100 percent perfect ideal situation, but so what? Why am I entitled to 100 percent perfect if that means other people can't move here?
Anonymous
05/04/2020 10:15
Subject: Soooo, how is high-density looking to everyone now?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There's a lot of room for policies in between "let's make parts of D.C. denser than they are now to improve long-term sustainability and boost housing affordability" and "let's make all of D.C. as dense as New York City." This is a straw man argument at heart (so naturally, it's gone on for 42 pages and counting...).
Parts of DC are already more densely populated than parts of NYC.
And those are not the parts that are likely being targeted for increased density.
So why should Great neighborhoods like Chevy Chase, Cleveland Park and AU Park be “targeted” for increased density ?!
I live in AU Park and think we could easily accommodate significantly more density without losing any of the characteristics that make the neighborhood great, let alone without worrying about safety. If every block had one or two 4-unit apartment buildings where there's now a single-family house, my life wouldn't change a bit, but a lot more people would be able to afford to live here.
This is a hilarious troll comment just stoking the fires. Ignore them. AU Park can't decide on a Superfresh replacement let alone fit two 4-unit apartments on each block. Nice try Density Bros.
If the zoning rules changed, it wouldn't be up to AU Park -- someone could just sell their house to a developer, who would tear it down and replace it with a small apartment building. Neighbors wouldn't get a say at all.
Anonymous
05/04/2020 10:15
Subject: Soooo, how is high-density looking to everyone now?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There's a lot of room for policies in between "let's make parts of D.C. denser than they are now to improve long-term sustainability and boost housing affordability" and "let's make all of D.C. as dense as New York City." This is a straw man argument at heart (so naturally, it's gone on for 42 pages and counting...).
Parts of DC are already more densely populated than parts of NYC.
And those are not the parts that are likely being targeted for increased density.
So why should Great neighborhoods like Chevy Chase, Cleveland Park and AU Park be “targeted” for increased density ?!
I live in AU Park and think we could easily accommodate significantly more density without losing any of the characteristics that make the neighborhood great, let alone without worrying about safety. If every block had one or two 4-unit apartment buildings where there's now a single-family house, my life wouldn't change a bit, but a lot more people would be able to afford to live here.
This illustrates another problem that the urbanism crowd fails to address: Even with changes to the CP, you need to actually find the land to build upon, which isn't easy in DC. Doing so in a piecemeal manner -- adding one or two four-unit buildings here and there, as is the case now -- will not get the city anywhere close to Bowser's housing goals, and large-scale on already-developed commercial property is a massively expensive proposition for developers, who only would be able to make a profit by building luxury apartments, which would do little to solve the city's housing crunch.
To get the to the scale Bowser is proposing, eminent domain has to be brought into play, and that would be political suicide.
So if you can't get it all done in one fell swoop, no point trying to move toward the goal at all? That seems sort of silly.
Anonymous
05/04/2020 08:34
Subject: Soooo, how is high-density looking to everyone now?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There's a lot of room for policies in between "let's make parts of D.C. denser than they are now to improve long-term sustainability and boost housing affordability" and "let's make all of D.C. as dense as New York City." This is a straw man argument at heart (so naturally, it's gone on for 42 pages and counting...).
Parts of DC are already more densely populated than parts of NYC.
And those are not the parts that are likely being targeted for increased density.
So why should Great neighborhoods like Chevy Chase, Cleveland Park and AU Park be “targeted” for increased density ?!
I live in AU Park and think we could easily accommodate significantly more density without losing any of the characteristics that make the neighborhood great, let alone without worrying about safety. If every block had one or two 4-unit apartment buildings where there's now a single-family house, my life wouldn't change a bit, but a lot more people would be able to afford to live here.
This illustrates another problem that the urbanism crowd fails to address: Even with changes to the CP, you need to actually find the land to build upon, which isn't easy in DC. Doing so in a piecemeal manner -- adding one or two four-unit buildings here and there, as is the case now -- will not get the city anywhere close to Bowser's housing goals, and large-scale on already-developed commercial property is a massively expensive proposition for developers, who only would be able to make a profit by building luxury apartments, which would do little to solve the city's housing crunch.
To get the to the scale Bowser is proposing, eminent domain has to be brought into play, and that would be political suicide.
Anonymous
05/04/2020 07:07
Subject: Soooo, how is high-density looking to everyone now?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There's a lot of room for policies in between "let's make parts of D.C. denser than they are now to improve long-term sustainability and boost housing affordability" and "let's make all of D.C. as dense as New York City." This is a straw man argument at heart (so naturally, it's gone on for 42 pages and counting...).
Parts of DC are already more densely populated than parts of NYC.
And those are not the parts that are likely being targeted for increased density.
So why should Great neighborhoods like Chevy Chase, Cleveland Park and AU Park be “targeted” for increased density ?!
I live in AU Park and think we could easily accommodate significantly more density without losing any of the characteristics that make the neighborhood great, let alone without worrying about safety. If every block had one or two 4-unit apartment buildings where there's now a single-family house, my life wouldn't change a bit, but a lot more people would be able to afford to live here.
This is a hilarious troll comment just stoking the fires. Ignore them. AU Park can't decide on a Superfresh replacement let alone fit two 4-unit apartments on each block. Nice try Density Bros.
Anonymous
05/04/2020 06:37
Subject: Soooo, how is high-density looking to everyone now?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There's a lot of room for policies in between "let's make parts of D.C. denser than they are now to improve long-term sustainability and boost housing affordability" and "let's make all of D.C. as dense as New York City." This is a straw man argument at heart (so naturally, it's gone on for 42 pages and counting...).
Parts of DC are already more densely populated than parts of NYC.
And those are not the parts that are likely being targeted for increased density.
So why should Great neighborhoods like Chevy Chase, Cleveland Park and AU Park be “targeted” for increased density ?!
I live in AU Park and think we could easily accommodate significantly more density without losing any of the characteristics that make the neighborhood great, let alone without worrying about safety. If every block had one or two 4-unit apartment buildings where there's now a single-family house, my life wouldn't change a bit, but a lot more people would be able to afford to live here.
AU Park is already skated to get hundreds of new residences at the so-called ladybird. Janney, after two additions, is overcrowded. Hopefully the developer is paying several million into an escrow fund for school expansion!
Don't forget the thousands of new units going in just south of Janney (the Wegmans development and the pending development just north of that). I'm going to guess there will be at least some kids living there, and they'll need schooling. Hope Hearst is ready for that influx (I believe those two developments are IB for Hearst).
Anonymous
05/04/2020 06:37
Subject: Soooo, how is high-density looking to everyone now?
People somehow don't understand that not everyone pays taxes, or pays enough to justify their services. Just paying for school alone, the district apparently spends almost $22k per year per student. People want to build all these 1 and 2 bedroom apartments which including affordable units. You're going to be moving people in with 2 kids and a HHI of 60k. So their contribution to DC taxes is like $3,600 per household. Enjoy educating their children and having them depreciate the infrastructure.
Anonymous
05/04/2020 06:29
Subject: Soooo, how is high-density looking to everyone now?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There's a lot of room for policies in between "let's make parts of D.C. denser than they are now to improve long-term sustainability and boost housing affordability" and "let's make all of D.C. as dense as New York City." This is a straw man argument at heart (so naturally, it's gone on for 42 pages and counting...).
Parts of DC are already more densely populated than parts of NYC.
And those are not the parts that are likely being targeted for increased density.
So why should Great neighborhoods like Chevy Chase, Cleveland Park and AU Park be “targeted” for increased density ?!
I live in AU Park and think we could easily accommodate significantly more density without losing any of the characteristics that make the neighborhood great, let alone without worrying about safety. If every block had one or two 4-unit apartment buildings where there's now a single-family house, my life wouldn't change a bit, but a lot more people would be able to afford to live here.
AU Park is already skated to get hundreds of new residences at the so-called ladybird. Janney, after two additions, is overcrowded. Hopefully the developer is paying several million into an escrow fund for school expansion!
If you ever want to make the GGW crowd go silent, ask them for their plans for *after* adding all this density. Like, what about the already overcrowded schools? Or the pretty lousy bus system in Upper NW -- with many lines seemingly on the WMATA chopping block on an annual basis -- how is that going to handle all these new residents? Who's going to pay for improvements to all that?
I confronted David Alpert about all this at an event once and his stammering non-response was hilarious. He basically ran away from me and hid.
Anonymous
05/03/2020 22:15
Subject: Soooo, how is high-density looking to everyone now?
Anonymous wrote:I can't imagine AU Park with apartment buildings on every street...ughAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There's a lot of room for policies in between "let's make parts of D.C. denser than they are now to improve long-term sustainability and boost housing affordability" and "let's make all of D.C. as dense as New York City." This is a straw man argument at heart (so naturally, it's gone on for 42 pages and counting...).
Parts of DC are already more densely populated than parts of NYC.
And those are not the parts that are likely being targeted for increased density.
So why should Great neighborhoods like Chevy Chase, Cleveland Park and AU Park be “targeted” for increased density ?!
I live in AU Park and think we could easily accommodate significantly more density without losing any of the characteristics that make the neighborhood great, let alone without worrying about safety. If every block had one or two 4-unit apartment buildings where there's now a single-family house, my life wouldn't change a bit, but a lot more people would be able to afford to live here.
AU Park is already skated to get hundreds of new residences at the so-called ladybird. Janney, after two additions, is overcrowded. Hopefully the developer is paying several million into an escrow fund for school expansion!
AU Park, along with some other Northwest neighborhoods, it is in serious danger of being Bowsered.
Anonymous
05/03/2020 21:31
Subject: Soooo, how is high-density looking to everyone now?
I can't imagine AU Park with apartment buildings on every street...ughAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There's a lot of room for policies in between "let's make parts of D.C. denser than they are now to improve long-term sustainability and boost housing affordability" and "let's make all of D.C. as dense as New York City." This is a straw man argument at heart (so naturally, it's gone on for 42 pages and counting...).
Parts of DC are already more densely populated than parts of NYC.
And those are not the parts that are likely being targeted for increased density.
So why should Great neighborhoods like Chevy Chase, Cleveland Park and AU Park be “targeted” for increased density ?!
I live in AU Park and think we could easily accommodate significantly more density without losing any of the characteristics that make the neighborhood great, let alone without worrying about safety. If every block had one or two 4-unit apartment buildings where there's now a single-family house, my life wouldn't change a bit, but a lot more people would be able to afford to live here.
AU Park is already skated to get hundreds of new residences at the so-called ladybird. Janney, after two additions, is overcrowded. Hopefully the developer is paying several million into an escrow fund for school expansion!
Anonymous
05/03/2020 19:45
Subject: Re:Soooo, how is high-density looking to everyone now?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I think the entire medical profession disagrees with you, but what do they know? Right?
Your belief about the medical profession's opinion is factually incorrect.
Thanks, Trump.
Anonymous
05/03/2020 18:41
Subject: Soooo, how is high-density looking to everyone now?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There's a lot of room for policies in between "let's make parts of D.C. denser than they are now to improve long-term sustainability and boost housing affordability" and "let's make all of D.C. as dense as New York City." This is a straw man argument at heart (so naturally, it's gone on for 42 pages and counting...).
Parts of DC are already more densely populated than parts of NYC.
And those are not the parts that are likely being targeted for increased density.
So why should Great neighborhoods like Chevy Chase, Cleveland Park and AU Park be “targeted” for increased density ?!
I live in AU Park and think we could easily accommodate significantly more density without losing any of the characteristics that make the neighborhood great, let alone without worrying about safety. If every block had one or two 4-unit apartment buildings where there's now a single-family house, my life wouldn't change a bit, but a lot more people would be able to afford to live here.
AU Park is already skated to get hundreds of new residences at the so-called ladybird. Janney, after two additions, is overcrowded. Hopefully the developer is paying several million into an escrow fund for school expansion!
Anonymous
05/03/2020 18:27
Subject: Soooo, how is high-density looking to everyone now?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There's a lot of room for policies in between "let's make parts of D.C. denser than they are now to improve long-term sustainability and boost housing affordability" and "let's make all of D.C. as dense as New York City." This is a straw man argument at heart (so naturally, it's gone on for 42 pages and counting...).
Parts of DC are already more densely populated than parts of NYC.
And those are not the parts that are likely being targeted for increased density.
So why should Great neighborhoods like Chevy Chase, Cleveland Park and AU Park be “targeted” for increased density ?!
I live in AU Park and think we could easily accommodate significantly more density without losing any of the characteristics that make the neighborhood great, let alone without worrying about safety. If every block had one or two 4-unit apartment buildings where there's now a single-family house, my life wouldn't change a bit, but a lot more people would be able to afford to live here.
The schools are bursting at the seams. Ridiculously irresponsible in a time of public health crisis brought on by density to advocate for this.
Anonymous
05/03/2020 18:26
Subject: Soooo, how is high-density looking to everyone now?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There's a lot of room for policies in between "let's make parts of D.C. denser than they are now to improve long-term sustainability and boost housing affordability" and "let's make all of D.C. as dense as New York City." This is a straw man argument at heart (so naturally, it's gone on for 42 pages and counting...).
Parts of DC are already more densely populated than parts of NYC.
And those are not the parts that are likely being targeted for increased density.
So why should Great neighborhoods like Chevy Chase, Cleveland Park and AU Park be “targeted” for increased density ?!
I live in AU Park and think we could easily accommodate significantly more density without losing any of the characteristics that make the neighborhood great, let alone without worrying about safety. If every block had one or two 4-unit apartment buildings where there's now a single-family house, my life wouldn't change a bit, but a lot more people would be able to afford to live here.