Anonymous
Post 05/17/2019 12:53     Subject: Official Abortion Thread

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:So we will only approve of a baby being born if the baby will have a privileged and problem free childhood?




Let's start with....wanted.

Every child deserves to be wanted.



Every child deserves to be born.

You don’t get to decide that because a child’s family doesn’t meet your standards, they should die.



Sorry. They don't "deserve" anything until they are born.




I wonder who you think you are to pretend you get to choose what millions of unborn babies deserve.


What about the 4,000 frozen embryos that were lost when a fertility clinic lost power last year? Why aren't you all up in arms about those 4,000 "babies who died"?

https://www.womenshealthmag.com/health/a19298247/embryos-eggs-compromised-fertility-clinic-malfunction/


THANK YOU! 4000 "children" died! Who went to jail? Where were the prayer vigils?! You're a bunch of hypocrites.


Were they fertilizedembryos or eggs similar to those shed during a menstrual cycle?


Both.


Those embryos were not fetuses. You think you’re being so smart and making gotcha arguments, but you’re not.
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2019 12:52     Subject: Official Abortion Thread

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So we will only approve of a baby being born if the baby will have a privileged and problem free childhood?




Let's start with....wanted.

Every child deserves to be wanted.



Every child deserves to be born.

You don’t get to decide that because a child’s family doesn’t meet your standards, they should die.



Sorry. They don't "deserve" anything until they are born.




I wonder who you think you are to pretend you get to choose what millions of unborn babies deserve.


What about the 4,000 frozen embryos that were lost when a fertility clinic lost power last year? Why aren't you all up in arms about those 4,000 "babies who died"?

https://www.womenshealthmag.com/health/a19298247/embryos-eggs-compromised-fertility-clinic-malfunction/


THANK YOU! 4000 "children" died! Who went to jail? Where were the prayer vigils?! You're a bunch of hypocrites.


Were they fertilizedembryos or eggs similar to those shed during a menstrual cycle?



if it's an embryo it's fertilized.

(PP is yet another example of why we need better sex ed in the u.s.!!)

Anonymous
Post 05/17/2019 12:51     Subject: Re:Official Abortion Thread

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Anytime someone uses the term “pro-abortion,” it’s clear they don’t understand the issue well enough to be worth engaging with.

Similar to the pro-forced-birthers.


Incorrect. The supposed “pro-abortion” people are not advocating for people to have abortions, they are arguing for women to be able to choose for themselves whether to have abortions. “Pro-forced birth” people are, in fact, advocating for women to be forced to continue their pregnancies until they give birth, whether they want to or not.


It’s not forcing women to give birth, it’s not allowing the killing of a living fetus. It’s disgusting that it’s even an argument. It is a death. Own it if you want to defend it.


Fine. It's the killing of a living fetus. Now you own that it's ALSO forcing unwilling women to carry a pregnancy to term and give birth.



Forcing women to have sex is one thing. Rape and or incest as causes of abortion are less than 1%...yet are used to justify 100% of abortions.

Women who have sex aren’t being forced to do so. They are choosing to do so- fine.

But if a baby is made- suddenly it’s a “forced birth.”

Women have sex with men who they don’t know. Women have sex with men they don’t like. Women know they can become pregnant.

They only innocent party in this is the unborn baby.

I have a real problem with adult women putting their problems onto their unborn child.

They make bad life choices and it’s not their fault, right? It’s the baby causing all the chaos. The baby is making them poor, the baby is interrupting their education. The baby is making it so they have to stay with some loser man they have been banging for some reason.

The utter lack of responsibility by women and their tidal wave of excuses actually disgusts me.

An unborn baby is responsible for everything.

What a bunch of crap. That’s why feminism- which supposedly makes women strong empowered women- is a sham. Women do exactly as the wish and then are shocked they get pregnant(never saw that coming!!!) and then that bad little baby ruined everything.



Wow. Those are some impressive contortions to avoid admitting that your position is one of forced birth.


Women refuse to take basic responsibility for their bodies and choices.

Suddenly dcum blames men for ejaculating during consensual sex. I mean- you couldn’t make it up if you tried.




Sex doesn't cause pregnancy. Male ejaculation causes pregnancy. Irresponsible male ejaculation causes unintended pregnancies.

Unintended pregnancies are 100% the fault of men who ejaculate irresponsibly.



Anonymous
Post 05/17/2019 12:50     Subject: Official Abortion Thread

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So we will only approve of a baby being born if the baby will have a privileged and problem free childhood?




Let's start with....wanted.

Every child deserves to be wanted.



Every child deserves to be born.

You don’t get to decide that because a child’s family doesn’t meet your standards, they should die.



Sorry. They don't "deserve" anything until they are born.




I wonder who you think you are to pretend you get to choose what millions of unborn babies deserve.


What about the 4,000 frozen embryos that were lost when a fertility clinic lost power last year? Why aren't you all up in arms about those 4,000 "babies who died"?

https://www.womenshealthmag.com/health/a19298247/embryos-eggs-compromised-fertility-clinic-malfunction/


THANK YOU! 4000 "children" died! Who went to jail? Where were the prayer vigils?! You're a bunch of hypocrites.


Were they fertilizedembryos or eggs similar to those shed during a menstrual cycle?


Both.
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2019 12:48     Subject: Official Abortion Thread

Anonymous wrote:It always boils down to slut shaming.
Truly always.


Name-calling means nothing to those for whom it doesn't apply...
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2019 12:47     Subject: Official Abortion Thread

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So we will only approve of a baby being born if the baby will have a privileged and problem free childhood?




Let's start with....wanted.

Every child deserves to be wanted.



Every child deserves to be born.

You don’t get to decide that because a child’s family doesn’t meet your standards, they should die.



Sorry. They don't "deserve" anything until they are born.




I wonder who you think you are to pretend you get to choose what millions of unborn babies deserve.


What about the 4,000 frozen embryos that were lost when a fertility clinic lost power last year? Why aren't you all up in arms about those 4,000 "babies who died"?

https://www.womenshealthmag.com/health/a19298247/embryos-eggs-compromised-fertility-clinic-malfunction/


THANK YOU! 4000 "children" died! Who went to jail? Where were the prayer vigils?! You're a bunch of hypocrites.


Were they fertilizedembryos or eggs similar to those shed during a menstrual cycle?
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2019 12:46     Subject: Re:Official Abortion Thread

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anytime someone uses the term “pro-abortion,” it’s clear they don’t understand the issue well enough to be worth engaging with.

Similar to the pro-forced-birthers.


Incorrect. The supposed “pro-abortion” people are not advocating for people to have abortions, they are arguing for women to be able to choose for themselves whether to have abortions. “Pro-forced birth” people are, in fact, advocating for women to be forced to continue their pregnancies until they give birth, whether they want to or not.


It’s not forcing women to give birth, it’s not allowing the killing of a living fetus. It’s disgusting that it’s even an argument. It is a death. Own it if you want to defend it.


Fine. It's the killing of a living fetus. Now you own that it's ALSO forcing unwilling women to carry a pregnancy to term and give birth.



Forcing women to have sex is one thing. Rape and or incest as causes of abortion are less than 1%...yet are used to justify 100% of abortions.

Women who have sex aren’t being forced to do so. They are choosing to do so- fine.

But if a baby is made- suddenly it’s a “forced birth.”

Women have sex with men who they don’t know. Women have sex with men they don’t like. Women know they can become pregnant.

They only innocent party in this is the unborn baby.

I have a real problem with adult women putting their problems onto their unborn child.

They make bad life choices and it’s not their fault, right? It’s the baby causing all the chaos. The baby is making them poor, the baby is interrupting their education. The baby is making it so they have to stay with some loser man they have been banging for some reason.

The utter lack of responsibility by women and their tidal wave of excuses actually disgusts me.

An unborn baby is responsible for everything.

What a bunch of crap. That’s why feminism- which supposedly makes women strong empowered women- is a sham. Women do exactly as the wish and then are shocked they get pregnant(never saw that coming!!!) and then that bad little baby ruined everything.


Wow. Those are some impressive contortions to avoid admitting that your position is one of forced birth.


You're trying hard to justify promiscuity with no responsibility on the woman's part. Children are the innocent victims. Men AND women need to be more responsible when it comes to having sex.


And you want the state to make them take responsibility by forcing them to give birth.


Of course! “Let’s take these two people who aren’t even responsible enough to use birth control and force them to be parents!”


Glad to see that you're admitting they're not being responsible.
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2019 12:45     Subject: Official Abortion Thread

Anonymous wrote:It always boils down to slut shaming.
Truly always.


Only for those who know they're being promiscuous and don't want to take responsibility to choose sex partners carefully so that an innocent child doesn't suffer the consequences of having irresponsible parents.
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2019 12:44     Subject: Official Abortion Thread

Yeah. They only children suffering are kids born to people who shouldn’t have had them.
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2019 12:41     Subject: Re:Official Abortion Thread

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anytime someone uses the term “pro-abortion,” it’s clear they don’t understand the issue well enough to be worth engaging with.

Similar to the pro-forced-birthers.


Incorrect. The supposed “pro-abortion” people are not advocating for people to have abortions, they are arguing for women to be able to choose for themselves whether to have abortions. “Pro-forced birth” people are, in fact, advocating for women to be forced to continue their pregnancies until they give birth, whether they want to or not.


It’s not forcing women to give birth, it’s not allowing the killing of a living fetus. It’s disgusting that it’s even an argument. It is a death. Own it if you want to defend it.


Fine. It's the killing of a living fetus. Now you own that it's ALSO forcing unwilling women to carry a pregnancy to term and give birth.



Forcing women to have sex is one thing. Rape and or incest as causes of abortion are less than 1%...yet are used to justify 100% of abortions.

Women who have sex aren’t being forced to do so. They are choosing to do so- fine.

But if a baby is made- suddenly it’s a “forced birth.”

Women have sex with men who they don’t know. Women have sex with men they don’t like. Women know they can become pregnant.

They only innocent party in this is the unborn baby.

I have a real problem with adult women putting their problems onto their unborn child.

They make bad life choices and it’s not their fault, right? It’s the baby causing all the chaos. The baby is making them poor, the baby is interrupting their education. The baby is making it so they have to stay with some loser man they have been banging for some reason.

The utter lack of responsibility by women and their tidal wave of excuses actually disgusts me.

An unborn baby is responsible for everything.

What a bunch of crap. That’s why feminism- which supposedly makes women strong empowered women- is a sham. Women do exactly as the wish and then are shocked they get pregnant(never saw that coming!!!) and then that bad little baby ruined everything.


Wow. Those are some impressive contortions to avoid admitting that your position is one of forced birth.


You're trying hard to justify promiscuity with no responsibility on the woman's part. Children are the innocent victims. Men AND women need to be more responsible when it comes to having sex.


And you want the state to make them take responsibility by forcing them to give birth.


Of course! “Let’s take these two people who aren’t even responsible enough to use birth control and force them to be parents!”
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2019 12:37     Subject: Re:Official Abortion Thread

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anytime someone uses the term “pro-abortion,” it’s clear they don’t understand the issue well enough to be worth engaging with.

Similar to the pro-forced-birthers.


Incorrect. The supposed “pro-abortion” people are not advocating for people to have abortions, they are arguing for women to be able to choose for themselves whether to have abortions. “Pro-forced birth” people are, in fact, advocating for women to be forced to continue their pregnancies until they give birth, whether they want to or not.


It’s not forcing women to give birth, it’s not allowing the killing of a living fetus. It’s disgusting that it’s even an argument. It is a death. Own it if you want to defend it.


Fine. It's the killing of a living fetus. Now you own that it's ALSO forcing unwilling women to carry a pregnancy to term and give birth.



Forcing women to have sex is one thing. Rape and or incest as causes of abortion are less than 1%...yet are used to justify 100% of abortions.

Women who have sex aren’t being forced to do so. They are choosing to do so- fine.

But if a baby is made- suddenly it’s a “forced birth.”

Women have sex with men who they don’t know. Women have sex with men they don’t like. Women know they can become pregnant.

They only innocent party in this is the unborn baby.

I have a real problem with adult women putting their problems onto their unborn child.

They make bad life choices and it’s not their fault, right? It’s the baby causing all the chaos. The baby is making them poor, the baby is interrupting their education. The baby is making it so they have to stay with some loser man they have been banging for some reason.

The utter lack of responsibility by women and their tidal wave of excuses actually disgusts me.

An unborn baby is responsible for everything.

What a bunch of crap. That’s why feminism- which supposedly makes women strong empowered women- is a sham. Women do exactly as the wish and then are shocked they get pregnant(never saw that coming!!!) and then that bad little baby ruined everything.



Wow. Those are some impressive contortions to avoid admitting that your position is one of forced birth.


You're trying hard to justify promiscuity with no responsibility on the woman's part. Children are the innocent victims. Men AND women need to be more responsible when it comes to having sex.


And you want the state to make them take responsibility by forcing them to give birth.


No. But I also think we've gone way too far in the direction of too many women not wanting to act in a responsible manner. It's the children who suffer, one way or another.
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2019 12:34     Subject: Re:Official Abortion Thread

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anytime someone uses the term “pro-abortion,” it’s clear they don’t understand the issue well enough to be worth engaging with.

Similar to the pro-forced-birthers.


Incorrect. The supposed “pro-abortion” people are not advocating for people to have abortions, they are arguing for women to be able to choose for themselves whether to have abortions. “Pro-forced birth” people are, in fact, advocating for women to be forced to continue their pregnancies until they give birth, whether they want to or not.


It’s not forcing women to give birth, it’s not allowing the killing of a living fetus. It’s disgusting that it’s even an argument. It is a death. Own it if you want to defend it.


Fine. It's the killing of a living fetus. Now you own that it's ALSO forcing unwilling women to carry a pregnancy to term and give birth.



Forcing women to have sex is one thing. Rape and or incest as causes of abortion are less than 1%...yet are used to justify 100% of abortions.

Women who have sex aren’t being forced to do so. They are choosing to do so- fine.

But if a baby is made- suddenly it’s a “forced birth.”

Women have sex with men who they don’t know. Women have sex with men they don’t like. Women know they can become pregnant.

They only innocent party in this is the unborn baby.

I have a real problem with adult women putting their problems onto their unborn child.

They make bad life choices and it’s not their fault, right? It’s the baby causing all the chaos. The baby is making them poor, the baby is interrupting their education. The baby is making it so they have to stay with some loser man they have been banging for some reason.

The utter lack of responsibility by women and their tidal wave of excuses actually disgusts me.

An unborn baby is responsible for everything.

What a bunch of crap. That’s why feminism- which supposedly makes women strong empowered women- is a sham. Women do exactly as the wish and then are shocked they get pregnant(never saw that coming!!!) and then that bad little baby ruined everything.



Wow. Those are some impressive contortions to avoid admitting that your position is one of forced birth.


You're trying hard to justify promiscuity with no responsibility on the woman's part. Children are the innocent victims. Men AND women need to be more responsible when it comes to having sex.


And you want the state to make them take responsibility by forcing them to give birth.
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2019 12:33     Subject: Official Abortion Thread

Ok so, if an embryo is human and abortion is murder, and MOST pregnancies end in miscarriages, then aren't you a murder (at least second degree) by even ATTEMPTING to get pregnant? By this logic, nobody should attempt to get pregnant.

https://www.sciencealert.com/meta-analysis-finds-majority-of-human-pregnancies-end-in-miscarriage-biorxiv

Anonymous
Post 05/17/2019 12:31     Subject: Re:Official Abortion Thread

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If a woman becomes pregnant then absent the health of the mother, rape or incest she needs to be responsible for the consequences of her action in not taking adequate precautions to avoid pregnancy.

Abortion cannot be treated as a form of birth control after the fact.


All for this, if it is accompanied by men registering their DNA, and being taxed for the next 18 years, outside of child support.


Yes, the man who fathered the child cannot go off scot-free. He should be responsible for child support.

And he is, no?


He needs to carry a tax burden as well.
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2019 12:30     Subject: Official Abortion Thread

It always boils down to slut shaming.
Truly always.