All the boring complaining office-job people posting on here!

Get off your a$$ and get a real job!

Anonymous wrote:Ya'll need to get jobs that don't involve sitting at a desk staring at a computer all day.

Luke mining coal?

Ya'll need to get jobs that don't involve sitting at a desk staring at a computer all day.

Anonymous wrote:Our kid has been working from home since well before Covid. When she and her husband decided to have kids they lined up child care first - the grandparents when the kids were babies and a preschool/daycare once they were toddlers. It never occurred to her for a second that she could watch her kids at home herself and work at the same time. It’s not fair to anyone involved.

Time to return to reality, ladies.

That makes sense but it is possible to have kids who are in elementary school come home from school without a dedicated babysitter. You can say a quick hello, get them a snack and go back to work for an hour or two. I usually block my calendar for 15 minutes in the afternoon to say hello to my younger child and then I head back to work.

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Anonymous wrote:Moan, moan, moan.

Oh! the horrors of taking care of your own children.

Find opposite shifts to work. Tons of couples do this.

Every time this very reasonable suggestion (which is already being done by millions of people every day) is made, DCUM clutches its collective pearls in horror. “No! I could never do that and not be on the same schedule as my husband. What about my mental health?!?!”

You had the kids. You need the childcare in order to work. If you really can’t afford it (and just don’t want to pay for it), then share childcare with someone working different shifts or stagger with your spouse. No, it may not be “easy” to do this, or to find jobs with those schedules or to work them, but do it anyway.

Because they don't want the gravy train to end. They aren't working the hours they say they are and with RTO that cheating ends.

Many are. With rto because of the time changes my spouse is now leaving at 7 and often getting home around 10 pm. They work. The job stays the same, so now no flexibility and it costs $20 in gas and tolls not including having to buy a new car. This is not sustainable. Can you work those hours plus an hour commute each way. You were lazy and did not work so you assume others don’t. Companies are going to lose good workers.

So they should pay you less to wfh subtract commuter and child cost

We have teens. We don’t need child care. That’s fine. Pay less but any hours outside of 9-5 work hours get paid overtime. Given my spouse often works 9-11 hours from home that would be a huge pay increase. And, not to mention they save money on office space and supplies, he should get paid for office space and supplies.

You do realize rto is full force in a week and they still don’t have space or desks for everyone.

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Anonymous wrote:Another reason why 1950s America was better.

For white mothers.
Black mothers didn’t have that privilege

For white, married, Christian mothers.
Women of color, divorced women, single moms, and Jews didn't have that privilege either.

This is racist and offensive. It as not good for any women.

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Anonymous wrote:Moan, moan, moan.

Oh! the horrors of taking care of your own children.

Find opposite shifts to work. Tons of couples do this.

Every time this very reasonable suggestion (which is already being done by millions of people every day) is made, DCUM clutches its collective pearls in horror. “No! I could never do that and not be on the same schedule as my husband. What about my mental health?!?!”

You had the kids. You need the childcare in order to work. If you really can’t afford it (and just don’t want to pay for it), then share childcare with someone working different shifts or stagger with your spouse. No, it may not be “easy” to do this, or to find jobs with those schedules or to work them, but do it anyway.

Because they don't want the gravy train to end. They aren't working the hours they say they are and with RTO that cheating ends.

Many are. With rto because of the time changes my spouse is now leaving at 7 and often getting home around 10 pm. They work. The job stays the same, so now no flexibility and it costs $20 in gas and tolls not including having to buy a new car. This is not sustainable. Can you work those hours plus an hour commute each way. You were lazy and did not work so you assume others don’t. Companies are going to lose good workers.

So they should pay you less to wfh subtract commuter and child cost

To clarify the above, her kid was on camera in the last couple of weeks, not during Covid when schools and daycares were closed.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not a lack of childcare that’s the problem; it’s that these women want to have it both ways. They don’t want to pay anyone else to watch their children, they prefer to fleece their employers.

This! They tried to game the system and save some money. Too bad so sad

Exactly.

Yeah, one of my co-workers actually had her pre-school age child on camera a lot. She did not even trying to hide that she was taking care of him when she was supposed to be at work.

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Anonymous wrote:3 years ago I did quit my job and I do watch the (feds) neighbors' kid while the parents go to work. I'm home with my own 2 kids, so why not? 8-5. Simple meals, library, park, play in the yard, nap, 2x walk/ wagon around the neighborhood, educational 60 minutes TV time while I make dinner. What's to complain about? I am paid 200/day cash. No pressure, no commuting, no boss, no deadlines, no aholes for coworkers. Parent provides food, snacks, pays daily in cash. It's terrific.

DH (fed) and I do all chores; no outsourcing.DH happy to be in office full-time (has been for last 3 years; his preference; he is very social and hated working from home.).

I hope you are reporting your income on your tax returns so you are earning payroll credits and also contributing to our nation’s finances. Really odd to me that a bunch of federal employees want to flaunt our payroll tax system for under the table childcare.

Tax fraud can result in losing security clearances, hopefully they’re audited.

Very few people get caught for this unless they are consistently writing checks. They can easily lie and say a family member watches their kids. This is assuming they are audited.

Childcare is a huge deal when you have young kids but otherwise you forget about it. Even someone auditing you may not consider it.

You’re right, this is tax fraud and it’s rarely caught even though it’s illegal and contributes to the tax gap. From a policy view what bothers me is the systemic underreporting of primarily women’s income which results in them qualifying for less social security. I guess if you’re comfortable with this because you’re unlikely to be caught, similar to how most people think of shoplifting, you go for it.

Who even gives a $hit. Our incoming president is a tax fraud in chief. Only thing tax fraud did was help him get elected.

This is one effect of electing a convicted felon, respect for the rule of law in general goes out the door. Why not cheat on your taxes, rig an election, rape a woman in a dressing room, etc. if these things aren’t punished any more?

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Anonymous wrote:Another reason why 1950s America was better.

For white mothers.
Black mothers didn’t have that privilege

For white, married, Christian mothers.
Women of color, divorced women, single moms, and Jews didn't have that privilege either.

My experience with working from home is that while I may not be grinding away 8 hours straight a day, I do generally stay at my computer later than my usual end of tour time, so I’m available for much longer. Or often if I do leave the computer at the official end of my day, I return to it later to check for and reply to any late emails.

At the end of the fiscal year, when my job is crazy busy, I’m working from 6am to 7pm daily, and weekends. Without compensation for that additional time. Pre-covid and in the office, I wasn’t doing that. I had kids to pick up and had to head out right on time. Or I’d head out on time bc my 45 min commute would turn into an hour+ if I didn’t.

Do I sometimes toss a load of laundry into the washing machine at 10am? Yes. Am I watching Netflix at 10am? No. Of course I’m sure there are feds who *are* watching TV. But those people, when they were in the office, weren’t nose the grindstone. They were socializing, they were surfing the internet, etc.

As usual they punish everyone, rather than going after the ones who are the problem.

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Anonymous wrote:Moan, moan, moan.

Oh! the horrors of taking care of your own children.

Find opposite shifts to work. Tons of couples do this.

Every time this very reasonable suggestion (which is already being done by millions of people every day) is made, DCUM clutches its collective pearls in horror. “No! I could never do that and not be on the same schedule as my husband. What about my mental health?!?!”

You had the kids. You need the childcare in order to work. If you really can’t afford it (and just don’t want to pay for it), then share childcare with someone working different shifts or stagger with your spouse. No, it may not be “easy” to do this, or to find jobs with those schedules or to work them, but do it anyway.

Because they don't want the gravy train to end. They aren't working the hours they say they are and with RTO that cheating ends.

Many are. With rto because of the time changes my spouse is now leaving at 7 and often getting home around 10 pm. They work. The job stays the same, so now no flexibility and it costs $20 in gas and tolls not including having to buy a new car. This is not sustainable. Can you work those hours plus an hour commute each way. You were lazy and did not work so you assume others don’t. Companies are going to lose good workers.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Moan, moan, moan.

Oh! the horrors of taking care of your own children.

Find opposite shifts to work. Tons of couples do this.

Every time this very reasonable suggestion (which is already being done by millions of people every day) is made, DCUM clutches its collective pearls in horror. “No! I could never do that and not be on the same schedule as my husband. What about my mental health?!?!”

You had the kids. You need the childcare in order to work. If you really can’t afford it (and just don’t want to pay for it), then share childcare with someone working different shifts or stagger with your spouse. No, it may not be “easy” to do this, or to find jobs with those schedules or to work them, but do it anyway.

Because they don't want the gravy train to end. They aren't working the hours they say they are and with RTO that cheating ends.

I think you need to evolve and realize that forcing someone to change their physical location doesn’t make them productive.

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Anonymous wrote:3 years ago I did quit my job and I do watch the (feds) neighbors' kid while the parents go to work. I'm home with my own 2 kids, so why not? 8-5. Simple meals, library, park, play in the yard, nap, 2x walk/ wagon around the neighborhood, educational 60 minutes TV time while I make dinner. What's to complain about? I am paid 200/day cash. No pressure, no commuting, no boss, no deadlines, no aholes for coworkers. Parent provides food, snacks, pays daily in cash. It's terrific.

DH (fed) and I do all chores; no outsourcing.DH happy to be in office full-time (has been for last 3 years; his preference; he is very social and hated working from home.).

I hope you are reporting your income on your tax returns so you are earning payroll credits and also contributing to our nation’s finances. Really odd to me that a bunch of federal employees want to flaunt our payroll tax system for under the table childcare.

Tax fraud can result in losing security clearances, hopefully they’re audited.

Very few people get caught for this unless they are consistently writing checks. They can easily lie and say a family member watches their kids. This is assuming they are audited.

Childcare is a huge deal when you have young kids but otherwise you forget about it. Even someone auditing you may not consider it.

You’re right, this is tax fraud and it’s rarely caught even though it’s illegal and contributes to the tax gap. From a policy view what bothers me is the systemic underreporting of primarily women’s income which results in them qualifying for less social security. I guess if you’re comfortable with this because you’re unlikely to be caught, similar to how most people think of shoplifting, you go for it.

Who even gives a $hit. Our incoming president is a tax fraud in chief. Only thing tax fraud did was help him get elected.