Anonymous
Post 04/03/2025 10:33     Subject: Re:Trump tariffs: ruin U.S. economy until 2040

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One thing that Trump is correct about is that Germany, China, Korea, France, Italy, Japan etc. have never demonstrated an iota of interest in having an even BOT with America. Tolerating that forever has had “knock-on effects” and resulted in the Rust Belt and the huge outperformance of coastal-state economies over the heartland.


Has it though? Yes, free trade has harmed some American workers but it has also enriched America in total. What has harmed American workers is wealth redistribution from workers to CEOs and to shareholders who want quarterly profits instead of long term investment and reinvestment.

Reforming our corporate structure would help Americans more than these destructive tariffs that will harm everyone, Americans and everyone else too.


Blame Walmart. Blame Amazon.


I do, in part. When Sam Walton was alive, he supported American businesses and Walmart and Sam's Club carried American-made products. When he died, his children lowered prices by buying imported products, and the downward spiral continued. But the reason they did that was because of corporate governance and rules and regulations from Congress, laws, and court cases. Greed was not only encouraged but also required. Corporate reform would bring back Sam Walton's policies rather than his children's policies, which would enrich Americans overall but would reduce the wealth of the CEOS, owners, and shareholders, who are also us.
Anonymous
Post 04/03/2025 10:33     Subject: Re:Trump tariffs: ruin U.S. economy until 2040

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If any day exposes the differences between urban elites and most of the country, this day does

Just had a great couple meetings with contractors working on my house in North Carolina far from the beltway bubble.

None of them are impacted by the tariffs. None of them were Hispanic. They lived in the area since childhood, an electrician, a plumber, a contractor and helpers.

All of them support stopping the overwhelming immigration that replace US workers with cheap labor and all of them support tariffs to bring back manufacturing to US.

Maybe we should be able to build our own anti-biotics without the globalists demanding their cut.

Good Day!


Tariffs are a tax on every day goods. So regardless of your awesome meeting with your contractors, THEIR costs are going up. their food costs, their labor costs, their materials costs etc are ALL going up. They may not feel it today, but they will in a week or a month.


Not if they buy local.

Look at companies doing good on stock market. Look at companies doing bad. The companies going down are the ones that exported US jobs and rely on other companies to build things. Hope they go in the toilet.

Maybe next time, hire a US worker.

Just a thought.


Next time they want to make decent chocolate chip cookies, guess where the vanilla comes from?

I challenge you to name a list of products that every day Americans can afford that are made domestically.

Hint: almost nothing at walmart or target is made domestically. Guess where MOST Americans shop?


There was some blogger a few years ago who tried to buy only American for a full year. Some things were so expensive - only $300 jeans made in the US. Others were simply impossible to find - it simply is not fully made anywhere in the country. I can't remember the name, but it was really interesting.
Anonymous
Post 04/03/2025 10:28     Subject: Re:Trump tariffs: ruin U.S. economy until 2040

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If any day exposes the differences between urban elites and most of the country, this day does

Just had a great couple meetings with contractors working on my house in North Carolina far from the beltway bubble.

None of them are impacted by the tariffs. None of them were Hispanic. They lived in the area since childhood, an electrician, a plumber, a contractor and helpers.

All of them support stopping the overwhelming immigration that replace US workers with cheap labor and all of them support tariffs to bring back manufacturing to US.

Maybe we should be able to build our own anti-biotics without the globalists demanding their cut.

Good Day!


Tariffs are a tax on every day goods. So regardless of your awesome meeting with your contractors, THEIR costs are going up. their food costs, their labor costs, their materials costs etc are ALL going up. They may not feel it today, but they will in a week or a month.


Not if they buy local.

Look at companies doing good on stock market. Look at companies doing bad. The companies going down are the ones that exported US jobs and rely on other companies to build things. Hope they go in the toilet.

Maybe next time, hire a US worker.

Just a thought.


Next time they want to make decent chocolate chip cookies, guess where the vanilla comes from?

I challenge you to name a list of products that every day Americans can afford that are made domestically.

Hint: almost nothing at walmart or target is made domestically. Guess where MOST Americans shop?
Anonymous
Post 04/03/2025 10:28     Subject: Trump tariffs: ruin U.S. economy until 2040

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If tariffs are unfair, why is it ok for other countries to put them on USA made goods?


Think of it this way....you buy stuff from Safeway, but Safeway doesn't buy anything from you. That is a trade deficit. But you still get what you need from Safeway for a price that is acceptable to you. Why is this a problem?


You need a personal trade surplus in order to buy from Safeway.

I trade my labor (my “trade” product) for dollars from my employer. I use those dollars to buy from Safeway.

If I have a trade deficient, meaning I don’t trade my work for dollars, I just go further and further in to credit card debt.


Then, here’s an idea…tax the rich!
Anonymous
Post 04/03/2025 10:27     Subject: Re:Trump tariffs: ruin U.S. economy until 2040

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If any day exposes the differences between urban elites and most of the country, this day does

Just had a great couple meetings with contractors working on my house in North Carolina far from the beltway bubble.

None of them are impacted by the tariffs. None of them were Hispanic. They lived in the area since childhood, an electrician, a plumber, a contractor and helpers.

All of them support stopping the overwhelming immigration that replace US workers with cheap labor and all of them support tariffs to bring back manufacturing to US.

Maybe we should be able to build our own anti-biotics without the globalists demanding their cut.

Good Day!


Tariffs are a tax on every day goods. So regardless of your awesome meeting with your contractors, THEIR costs are going up. their food costs, their labor costs, their materials costs etc are ALL going up. They may not feel it today, but they will in a week or a month.


Not if they buy local.

Look at companies doing good on stock market. Look at companies doing bad. The companies going down are the ones that exported US jobs and rely on other companies to build things. Hope they go in the toilet.

Maybe next time, hire a US worker.

Just a thought.


Do tell! Who are these companies that are doing good and immune from the stupid tariffs?
Anonymous
Post 04/03/2025 10:26     Subject: Trump tariffs: ruin U.S. economy until 2040

Anonymous wrote:Unreal...



Hey guys, yoo hoo, over here, it’s time….
Anonymous
Post 04/03/2025 10:24     Subject: Re:Trump tariffs: ruin U.S. economy until 2040

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One thing that Trump is correct about is that Germany, China, Korea, France, Italy, Japan etc. have never demonstrated an iota of interest in having an even BOT with America. Tolerating that forever has had “knock-on effects” and resulted in the Rust Belt and the huge outperformance of coastal-state economies over the heartland.


Has it though? Yes, free trade has harmed some American workers but it has also enriched America in total. What has harmed American workers is wealth redistribution from workers to CEOs and to shareholders who want quarterly profits instead of long term investment and reinvestment.

Reforming our corporate structure would help Americans more than these destructive tariffs that will harm everyone, Americans and everyone else too.


Blame Walmart. Blame Amazon.
Anonymous
Post 04/03/2025 10:18     Subject: Re:Trump tariffs: ruin U.S. economy until 2040

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If any day exposes the differences between urban elites and most of the country, this day does

Just had a great couple meetings with contractors working on my house in North Carolina far from the beltway bubble.

None of them are impacted by the tariffs. None of them were Hispanic. They lived in the area since childhood, an electrician, a plumber, a contractor and helpers.

All of them support stopping the overwhelming immigration that replace US workers with cheap labor and all of them support tariffs to bring back manufacturing to US.

Maybe we should be able to build our own anti-biotics without the globalists demanding their cut.

Good Day!


Well, we used to do that but with the cuts to the NIH and to research universities, we won't anymore. The medical research scientists will retool and learn plumbing and contracting instead of chemistry and biology. We used to have a knowledge-based economy but Trump doesn't want that and neither do your contractors. So we won't have that anymore.

+1 Trump is destroying one of the things in which the USA is the indisputable global leader: medical research. But enjoy 15-year-olds making toasters at midnight, I guess?
Anonymous
Post 04/03/2025 10:18     Subject: Re:Trump tariffs: ruin U.S. economy until 2040

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If any day exposes the differences between urban elites and most of the country, this day does

Just had a great couple meetings with contractors working on my house in North Carolina far from the beltway bubble.

None of them are impacted by the tariffs. None of them were Hispanic. They lived in the area since childhood, an electrician, a plumber, a contractor and helpers.

All of them support stopping the overwhelming immigration that replace US workers with cheap labor and all of them support tariffs to bring back manufacturing to US.

Maybe we should be able to build our own anti-biotics without the globalists demanding their cut.

Good Day!


Just wait til you have to pay for lumber for your addition.


They have lumber mills in NC. It will help western NC recover.

But you anti US workers don’t care


^does not understand how supply and demand works.
Anonymous
Post 04/03/2025 10:17     Subject: Re:Trump tariffs: ruin U.S. economy until 2040

Anonymous wrote:If any day exposes the differences between urban elites and most of the country, this day does

Just had a great couple meetings with contractors working on my house in North Carolina far from the beltway bubble.

None of them are impacted by the tariffs. None of them were Hispanic. They lived in the area since childhood, an electrician, a plumber, a contractor and helpers.

All of them support stopping the overwhelming immigration that replace US workers with cheap labor and all of them support tariffs to bring back manufacturing to US.

Maybe we should be able to build our own anti-biotics without the globalists demanding their cut.

Good Day!


Either they're incredibly dense and denying reality, or don't know it yet. The US imports hundreds of billions of dollars worth of construction material - anything from steel, metal, and wood, to building components such as plumbing materials, hardware, wiring, HVAC, etc. This doesn't take into account stuff like construction equipment, power tools, and up the chain impacts (for instance, machinery for saw mills that process lumber, or pigments that go into manufacturing paint). If there is a 25% tariff on these goods, their prices will go up by at least that much. And even if you assume that there are competing products made entirely in the US, their prices will go up too (not as much as the tariffed goods), because they can.

I would be loathe to work with people that can't even see this one coming, because they're going to be least prepared to deal with it. As a consequence, their clients are more likely to be told at the nth hour that the stone they were planning to use for their counters have now doubled in price, and their project prices are no longer what they were originally quoted.
Anonymous
Post 04/03/2025 10:15     Subject: Re:Trump tariffs: ruin U.S. economy until 2040

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If any day exposes the differences between urban elites and most of the country, this day does

Just had a great couple meetings with contractors working on my house in North Carolina far from the beltway bubble.

None of them are impacted by the tariffs. None of them were Hispanic. They lived in the area since childhood, an electrician, a plumber, a contractor and helpers.

All of them support stopping the overwhelming immigration that replace US workers with cheap labor and all of them support tariffs to bring back manufacturing to US.

Maybe we should be able to build our own anti-biotics without the globalists demanding their cut.

Good Day!


Tariffs are a tax on every day goods. So regardless of your awesome meeting with your contractors, THEIR costs are going up. their food costs, their labor costs, their materials costs etc are ALL going up. They may not feel it today, but they will in a week or a month.


Not if they buy local.

Look at companies doing good on stock market. Look at companies doing bad. The companies going down are the ones that exported US jobs and rely on other companies to build things. Hope they go in the toilet.

Maybe next time, hire a US worker.

Just a thought.
Anonymous
Post 04/03/2025 10:13     Subject: Re:Trump tariffs: ruin U.S. economy until 2040

If any day exposes the differences between urban elites and most of the country, this day does

Just had a great couple meetings with contractors working on my house in North Carolina far from the beltway bubble.

None of them are impacted by the tariffs. None of them were Hispanic. They lived in the area since childhood, an electrician, a plumber, a contractor and helpers.

All of them support stopping the overwhelming immigration that replace US workers with cheap labor and all of them support tariffs to bring back manufacturing to US.

Maybe we should be able to build our own anti-biotics without the globalists demanding their cut.

Good Day!

Guess they'll be in for a surprise once they realize where most of the stuff they buy and their wives buy comes from.
Anonymous
Post 04/03/2025 10:12     Subject: Re:Trump tariffs: ruin U.S. economy until 2040

Anonymous wrote:If any day exposes the differences between urban elites and most of the country, this day does

Just had a great couple meetings with contractors working on my house in North Carolina far from the beltway bubble.

None of them are impacted by the tariffs. None of them were Hispanic. They lived in the area since childhood, an electrician, a plumber, a contractor and helpers.

All of them support stopping the overwhelming immigration that replace US workers with cheap labor and all of them support tariffs to bring back manufacturing to US.

Maybe we should be able to build our own anti-biotics without the globalists demanding their cut.

Good Day!


Tariffs are a tax on every day goods. So regardless of your awesome meeting with your contractors, THEIR costs are going up. their food costs, their labor costs, their materials costs etc are ALL going up. They may not feel it today, but they will in a week or a month.
Anonymous
Post 04/03/2025 10:11     Subject: Trump tariffs: ruin U.S. economy until 2040

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Its about time someone stood up for the American workers and businesses. Thank you DJT

Fortunately, he doesnt listen to a bunch of whining liberal moms on the internet


How are massive job losses and losing markets by our big businesses going to help the average american who is losing spending power, losing their retirement savings and losing their jobs?


It took decades to export our jobs.

It will take decades to bring them back.

We need to build things. We need to have the infrastructure in the US for our security

Globalists and WAPO can go pound rocks.

Besides you were so stupid to lose an election by importing millions of illegal aliens. How dumb is that?


If you can get through the next few decades of economic pain, we’ll have a wonderful economy where 10-year olds work 16 hour days serving the robots building your consumer goods.

I don’t know many regular people that are going to survive the shock unscathed. But a lot of out of touch Trump elitists are thinking they’ll be just fine, and if the peasants come for their heads, they’ll just escape to Mars or sick their government toadies on them.
Anonymous
Post 04/03/2025 10:10     Subject: Re:Trump tariffs: ruin U.S. economy until 2040

Anonymous wrote:If any day exposes the differences between urban elites and most of the country, this day does

Just had a great couple meetings with contractors working on my house in North Carolina far from the beltway bubble.

None of them are impacted by the tariffs. None of them were Hispanic. They lived in the area since childhood, an electrician, a plumber, a contractor and helpers.

All of them support stopping the overwhelming immigration that replace US workers with cheap labor and all of them support tariffs to bring back manufacturing to US.

Maybe we should be able to build our own anti-biotics without the globalists demanding their cut.

Good Day!


Cool story, bro