Anonymous wrote:Oh no Alito's timeline broke LOL
Just published: Mrs. Alito's conflict with her neighbors in Virginia escalated so much that the neighbors called the police. But that final incident, which Justice Alito said helped spur his wife to raise the upside-down flag, happened a month after the flag was up.

New York Times conflict with neighbors. Mrs
Alito doesn't come off well.

The Alitos, the Neighborhood Clash and the Upside-Down Flag https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/28/us/justice-alito-neighbors-stop-steal-flag.html?smid=nytcore-android-share

Anonymous wrote:Flying the U.S. flag upside down is not a “stop the steal” symbol; it was originally used by ships in distress and later came to mean any general political protest.

And the originalist faction of the court has entered the chat.

Anonymous wrote:Flying the U.S. flag upside down is not a “stop the steal” symbol; it was originally used by ships in distress and later came to mean any general political protest.

And in January, 2021, it came to mean "stop the steal"

What other distress was taking place then?

Anonymous wrote:Flying the U.S. flag upside down is not a “stop the steal” symbol; it was originally used by ships in distress and later came to mean any general political protest.

Yes. We know that. It’s not appropriate for a Supreme Court justice to fly it regardless of which protest it’s for or what group has adopted it as their symbol.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh no Alito's timeline broke LOL
Just published: Mrs. Alito's conflict with her neighbors in Virginia escalated so much that the neighbors called the police. But that final incident, which Justice Alito said helped spur his wife to raise the upside-down flag, happened a month after the flag was up.

The truth always comes out.

No word from Roberts yet though.

I don't think we've perfected backbone growth or re-growth so unlikely you're going to hear anything from him.

Anonymous wrote:Flying the U.S. flag upside down is not a “stop the steal” symbol; it was originally used by ships in distress and later came to mean any general political protest.

You expect us to believe that the two flags associated with 2020 election denialism and the Christo-MAGA movement were meant by the Alitos to signify previous, historical interpretations? REALLY?

You think we're as dumb as you are???



You know what I think? I think Ms. Alito is in cognitive decline and is losing control over her emotions and sense of proportionality, and this is why, after decades of relative decorum (even though she's a stalwart and outspoken ultra-conservative), she suddenly finds herself in the spotlight, for verbal attacks on people she perceives as political enemies, and irrational behavior with flags.

And you know what a Supreme Court Justice is supposed to do when his spouse behaves like that? He should recuse from cases that his spouse has tainted with her demented actions. And seriously consider a dignified retirement before she does anything worse.

Anonymous wrote:Oh no Alito's timeline broke LOL
Just published: Mrs. Alito's conflict with her neighbors in Virginia escalated so much that the neighbors called the police. But that final incident, which Justice Alito said helped spur his wife to raise the upside-down flag, happened a month after the flag was up.

Just read the article. Just to add. The stop the steal flag was put up around Biden’s inauguration. The sign said that Trump is a fascist.

Flying the U.S. flag upside down is not a “stop the steal” symbol; it was originally used by ships in distress and later came to mean any general political protest.

Anonymous wrote:Oh no Alito's timeline broke LOL
Just published: Mrs. Alito's conflict with her neighbors in Virginia escalated so much that the neighbors called the police. But that final incident, which Justice Alito said helped spur his wife to raise the upside-down flag, happened a month after the flag was up.

Whoopsidoodle.

Anonymous wrote:Oh no Alito's timeline broke LOL
Just published: Mrs. Alito's conflict with her neighbors in Virginia escalated so much that the neighbors called the police. But that final incident, which Justice Alito said helped spur his wife to raise the upside-down flag, happened a month after the flag was up.

The truth always comes out.

No word from Roberts yet though.

Oh no Alito's timeline broke LOL
Just published: Mrs. Alito's conflict with her neighbors in Virginia escalated so much that the neighbors called the police. But that final incident, which Justice Alito said helped spur his wife to raise the upside-down flag, happened a month after the flag was up.

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Anonymous wrote:Was the Pine Tree flag bad when BLM displayed it, or nah?

Ordinary private citizens aren’t held to judicial standards. There’s no requirement for construction workers or bus drivers or waitresses to be apolitical or to avoid the mere appearance of impropriety.

Isn't Alito's wife one of those private citizens?

Because she’s married to a Supreme Court justice, her house is also his house. Her income is also his income and must be reported. She’s not quite a private citizen, but not entirely bound by judicial standards. Fair or not, her activities can cast the appearance of impropriety on him.

You're nutz. She can do as she damn well pleases. She is a PRIVATE CITIZEN.

There is no nuance, regardless of how you would like to project your tyrannical wishes.

This is cut and dry. Got it? CUT AND DRY.

When she made a political statement at her residence, she was also making a political statement at a SUPREME COURT JUSTICE’S RESIDENCE. She did this at Justice Alito’s house. She had HIM living under that flag. The flags flown at HIS home reflect on HIM. She’s free to do whatever she wants, and OTHER PEOPLE ARE FREE TO CRITICIZE THE APPEARANCE OF IMPROPRIETY ON JUSTICE ALITO’S PART.

DP. Just because you think it creates an appearance of impropriety on the part of Justice Alito, doesn't mean that he must recuse himself. This is why there are objective rules in place to avoid subjective judgments. First, you're assuming her actions can and should be imputed to him. Strike one. Second, you're assuming she made a political statement. Strike two. Three, you're assuming that her political statement was supporting an "insurrection" or other inappropriate activity. You're out.

Also, let us know if you're willing to apply your "rules" to Democratic politicians, appointees, and judges. Please tell us what those rules are and what the objective criteria are for following them.

It’s laughable to claim Mrs. Alito wasn’t making a political statement. She didn’t fly the flag upside down by accident and she wasn’t signaling that she needed to be rescued. She was sending a message in response to a conflict over a political yard sign because she felt she’d been treated very badly. It was an odd, ham fisted gesture. I’m not one of the posters calling on Justice Alito to recuse himself over the flag multiple issues. I do, however, think that it’s appropriate to report on this kind of incident, and to ask Justice Alito about it. I don’t want his head on a pike, but he should be asked to explain public displays at his home. Someone on Justice Alito’s staff should refresh Mrs. Alito’s instruction on maintaining judicial propriety.

I'm the DP you were responding to. I think we're going to disagree as to whether or not she was making a "political" statement, which assumes she was trying to send a message to more than just her annoying neighbor. Rather, it was as you point out a rather hamfisted way of responding to the neigbor (some would say petty, but perhaps there is more to this neighborhood spat than we all know). I think it's good odds that Justice Alito had a conversation with his wife about the situation and that was the end of it. This has nothing to do with judicial propriety, since she's not the sitting justice nor are her actions subject to the Court's ethical rules. The press certainly has a right to ask Justice Alito about it (and he has the right to say that he had a conversation with his wife), but the WaPo though the entire story was a nothingburger.

DP. You're talking about the upside-down US flag flown at his main residence. What about the Christian Nationalist flag flown at their vacation home. Who do you think was responsible for that? The wife again?

Most likely the gardener who was shipped off to Guantánamo Bay.

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Anonymous wrote:Was the Pine Tree flag bad when BLM displayed it, or nah?

Ordinary private citizens aren’t held to judicial standards. There’s no requirement for construction workers or bus drivers or waitresses to be apolitical or to avoid the mere appearance of impropriety.

Isn't Alito's wife one of those private citizens?

Because she’s married to a Supreme Court justice, her house is also his house. Her income is also his income and must be reported. She’s not quite a private citizen, but not entirely bound by judicial standards. Fair or not, her activities can cast the appearance of impropriety on him.

You're nutz. She can do as she damn well pleases. She is a PRIVATE CITIZEN.

There is no nuance, regardless of how you would like to project your tyrannical wishes.

This is cut and dry. Got it? CUT AND DRY.

When she made a political statement at her residence, she was also making a political statement at a SUPREME COURT JUSTICE’S RESIDENCE. She did this at Justice Alito’s house. She had HIM living under that flag. The flags flown at HIS home reflect on HIM. She’s free to do whatever she wants, and OTHER PEOPLE ARE FREE TO CRITICIZE THE APPEARANCE OF IMPROPRIETY ON JUSTICE ALITO’S PART.

DP. Just because you think it creates an appearance of impropriety on the part of Justice Alito, doesn't mean that he must recuse himself. This is why there are objective rules in place to avoid subjective judgments. First, you're assuming her actions can and should be imputed to him. Strike one. Second, you're assuming she made a political statement. Strike two. Three, you're assuming that her political statement was supporting an "insurrection" or other inappropriate activity. You're out.

Also, let us know if you're willing to apply your "rules" to Democratic politicians, appointees, and judges. Please tell us what those rules are and what the objective criteria are for following them.

It’s laughable to claim Mrs. Alito wasn’t making a political statement. She didn’t fly the flag upside down by accident and she wasn’t signaling that she needed to be rescued. She was sending a message in response to a conflict over a political yard sign because she felt she’d been treated very badly. It was an odd, ham fisted gesture. I’m not one of the posters calling on Justice Alito to recuse himself over the flag multiple issues. I do, however, think that it’s appropriate to report on this kind of incident, and to ask Justice Alito about it. I don’t want his head on a pike, but he should be asked to explain public displays at his home. Someone on Justice Alito’s staff should refresh Mrs. Alito’s instruction on maintaining judicial propriety.

I'm the DP you were responding to. I think we're going to disagree as to whether or not she was making a "political" statement, which assumes she was trying to send a message to more than just her annoying neighbor. Rather, it was as you point out a rather hamfisted way of responding to the neigbor (some would say petty, but perhaps there is more to this neighborhood spat than we all know). I think it's good odds that Justice Alito had a conversation with his wife about the situation and that was the end of it. This has nothing to do with judicial propriety, since she's not the sitting justice nor are her actions subject to the Court's ethical rules. The press certainly has a right to ask Justice Alito about it (and he has the right to say that he had a conversation with his wife), but the WaPo though the entire story was a nothingburger.

DP. You're talking about the upside-down US flag flown at his main residence. What about the Christian Nationalist flag flown at their vacation home. Who do you think was responsible for that? The wife again?

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Anonymous wrote:Aren’t SC judges supposed to stay neutral? How is this appropriate that a judge is encouraging resistance to a democratic election’s results?

It’s not appropriate. The GOP is very excited because they think they’re going to get their fascist government installed; Sammy the unintelligent (if you don’t understand the legal opinions you’re citing, you aren’t intelligent) has jumped the gun.

Alito thinks he can just wait for the next outrage in the news cycle and that this will be forgotten.

Anonymous wrote:Aren’t SC judges supposed to stay neutral? How is this appropriate that a judge is encouraging resistance to a democratic election’s results?

It’s not appropriate. The GOP is very excited because they think they’re going to get their fascist government installed; Sammy the unintelligent (if you don’t understand the legal opinions you’re citing, you aren’t intelligent) has jumped the gun.