Anonymous
05/21/2024 18:25
Subject: Re:NFL Kicker Harrison Butker’s unhinged commencement speech
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It is hard to believe this thread has grown to 44 pages. In less than six days.
Especially when you consider the P Diddy thread is only 36 pages and was started all the way back in December.
I guess it's a good thing that Diddy only beat a woman and didn't tell her how great being a wife and mother is.
P Diddy isn't participating in our current cultural wars by doling out RW talking points cloaked as life advice.
Interesting. Because, neither is Butker.
He is simply praising and commending those who choose to have children and raise children - BOTH men and women.
I guess you are not a fan of childrearing.
Butker is a conservative Catholic publicly pushing extremely repressive views on gender and reproductive rights at a time when conservative Catholics are forcibly imposing their viewpoints on everyone else.
Anonymous
05/21/2024 18:19
Subject: Re:NFL Kicker Harrison Butker’s unhinged commencement speech
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It is hard to believe this thread has grown to 44 pages. In less than six days.
Especially when you consider the P Diddy thread is only 36 pages and was started all the way back in December.
I guess it's a good thing that Diddy only beat a woman and didn't tell her how great being a wife and mother is.
P Diddy isn't participating in our current cultural wars by doling out RW talking points cloaked as life advice.
Interesting. Because, neither is Butker.
He is simply praising and commending those who choose to have children and raise children - BOTH men and women.
I guess you are not a fan of childrearing.
Anonymous
05/21/2024 18:10
Subject: Re:NFL Kicker Harrison Butker’s unhinged commencement speech
Anonymous wrote:It is hard to believe this thread has grown to 44 pages. In less than six days.
Especially when you consider the P Diddy thread is only 36 pages and was started all the way back in December.
I guess it's a good thing that Diddy only beat a woman and didn't tell her how great being a wife and mother is.
P Diddy isn't participating in our current cultural wars by doling out RW talking points cloaked as life advice.
Anonymous
05/21/2024 17:58
Subject: NFL Kicker Harrison Butker’s unhinged commencement speech
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:He isn't forcing you to abide my his beliefs so why are people so bothered by what he said?
Did you miss the whole part where Catholics forced entire states to abide by their abortion beliefs? And many other reproductive choices they want to take away too. Since they monopolize hospitals in many places Catholics also effectively control many health care decisions. What Catholics believe absolutely impacts everyone.
This. And they’re moving on to the whole country.
Anonymous
05/21/2024 17:17
Subject: NFL Kicker Harrison Butker’s unhinged commencement speech
Anonymous wrote:He isn't forcing you to abide my his beliefs so why are people so bothered by what he said?
Did you miss the whole part where Catholics forced entire states to abide by their abortion beliefs? And many other reproductive choices they want to take away too. Since they monopolize hospitals in many places Catholics also effectively control many health care decisions. What Catholics believe absolutely impacts everyone.
Anonymous
05/21/2024 15:58
Subject: NFL Kicker Harrison Butker’s unhinged commencement speech
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What exactly is the "diabolical lie" he was referring to?
The lie: That women who work will feel fulfilled,
The truth, according to kicker buttlicker: when in actuality it doesn’t matter how many lives a teacher touches, or how many live a female surgeon saves…. Her life starts when she markets her H.
I love my children.. I really really do. They are amazing people. But, I would be bored af if being a mother was the only thing I had to look forward to in life.
Yes, being a parent is more important than a career, but he doesn't tell men that. He tells women to focus on the family, while men lean into their masculinity, whatever that means. He leans on his wife to manage the family so that he could play the masculine role.
I don’t think that being a parent is more important than a career or even a job.
Here is a test. You and your H quit your jobs. Then tell me how important they are.
PP here.. That's not what he's saying. He's saying don't focus so much on your career that you don't have time to be good parents.
Nevertheless, I disagree with him about my "vocation" starting when I got married and had kids.
I didn't get married until I was 33. When I was 30, my mother said to me, "By the time I was your age I had four kids.". To which I responded, "If I had four kids right now I'd kill myself.". I mean not literally, but you get the gist. I was not ready to have kids at 30. I needed to work on my mental/emotional health before I was ready to have kids, and I wasn't even sure I wanted kids.
Too many people having kids when they shouldn't, especially the men. They don't want the actual responsibility of raising children. It doesn't matter how much Butkiss tells them they should "lean into their masculinity".. whatever the f* that means.
Yet there he is with a career that has him completely out of his family’s life August-February and off season he’s running around doing media instead of being with his family.
He also said that it’s unnatural to tell your spouse you can’t have sex if you don’t want to because you are ovulating… and no other birth control.
Anonymous
05/21/2024 15:49
Subject: Re:NFL Kicker Harrison Butker’s unhinged commencement speech
Anonymous
05/21/2024 15:38
Subject: NFL Kicker Harrison Butker’s unhinged commencement speech
Anonymous wrote:He isn't forcing you to abide my his beliefs so why are people so bothered by what he said?
You mean you wouldn't get bothered by some misogynist ahole saying "women aren't as smart as men"? I know that's not what he said, but your flippant attitude of "he isn't forcing you to abide by his beliefs, so why are you so bothered.." seems... disingenuous.
Or, maybe you're a man, and so that's why you aren't so "bothered by his beliefs". You can say you're a woman, but I won't believe you. No self respecting woman wouldn't be bothered by what he said, including the Benedictine nuns who also publicly disagreed with his beliefs.
Anonymous
05/21/2024 15:35
Subject: NFL Kicker Harrison Butker’s unhinged commencement speech
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What exactly is the "diabolical lie" he was referring to?
The lie: That women who work will feel fulfilled,
The truth, according to kicker buttlicker: when in actuality it doesn’t matter how many lives a teacher touches, or how many live a female surgeon saves…. Her life starts when she markets her H.
I love my children.. I really really do. They are amazing people. But, I would be bored af if being a mother was the only thing I had to look forward to in life.
Yes, being a parent is more important than a career, but he doesn't tell men that. He tells women to focus on the family, while men lean into their masculinity, whatever that means. He leans on his wife to manage the family so that he could play the masculine role.
I don’t think that being a parent is more important than a career or even a job.
Here is a test. You and your H quit your jobs. Then tell me how important they are.
PP here.. That's not what he's saying. He's saying don't focus so much on your career that you don't have time to be good parents.
Nevertheless, I disagree with him about my "vocation" starting when I got married and had kids.
I didn't get married until I was 33. When I was 30, my mother said to me, "By the time I was your age I had four kids.". To which I responded, "If I had four kids right now I'd kill myself.". I mean not literally, but you get the gist. I was not ready to have kids at 30. I needed to work on my mental/emotional health before I was ready to have kids, and I wasn't even sure I wanted kids.
Too many people having kids when they shouldn't, especially the men. They don't want the actual responsibility of raising children. It doesn't matter how much Butkiss tells them they should "lean into their masculinity".. whatever the f* that means.
Anonymous
05/21/2024 15:34
Subject: NFL Kicker Harrison Butker’s unhinged commencement speech
Anonymous wrote:He isn't forcing you to abide my his beliefs so why are people so bothered by what he said?
He’s a mouthpiece for Trump and the Republican Party.
And project 2025 with its family values section and the banning of birth control and abortion all fit neatly into this plank of the Republican Party platform.
Anonymous
05/21/2024 15:30
Subject: NFL Kicker Harrison Butker’s unhinged commencement speech
Anonymous wrote:He isn't forcing you to abide my his beliefs so why are people so bothered by what he said?
As a Catholic it is my duty to speak against heresy and blasphemy that is being hurled at fellow members of my religion.
Anonymous
05/21/2024 15:15
Subject: NFL Kicker Harrison Butker’s unhinged commencement speech
He isn't forcing you to abide my his beliefs so why are people so bothered by what he said?
Anonymous
05/21/2024 14:02
Subject: NFL Kicker Harrison Butker’s unhinged commencement speech
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why is a 20-something football player seen as someone who is worthy of giving a commencement address? Why are some people so invested in taking life advice from him?
Butker's own mother is way more accomplished than he is. Elizabeth Butker is a clinical medical physicist who works in the department of radiation oncology at Emory University School of Medicine and has a long list of research publications. It is not always easy for women to advance in the various fields of scientific research. Her insights would have been more interesting than his.
Has she made a statement yet?
What could she honestly say? She raised this POS. And he clearly has some lingering feelings that mommy didn’t prioritize him every second of the day.
Anonymous
05/21/2024 13:56
Subject: Re:NFL Kicker Harrison Butker’s unhinged commencement speech
Somehow this very sexy man just keeps getting hotter with age. Vedder has been relevant for 30 years, and will be relevant for probably 15-20 more. Butker will be hawking cars before Pearl Jam stops selling out stadiums.