Anonymous
04/20/2024 01:17
Subject: OJ simpson Died
Anonymous wrote:Read Another City, Not My Own. By Dominick Dunne. It's the best chronicle of the characters and mood of the time. He thought OJ was guilty but respected his dignified family. Thought the Browns were shady and behaved inappropriately at the trial. Had awful things to say about the defense team (save Kardashian).
It’s surprising OJ won. The city spent 10 million dollars on the case to convict . OJ spend 3-5 million and some of the attorneys still haven’t gotten paid. The defense team hated each others guts apparently and weren’t even speaking toward the end . Shapiro was furious Cochran compared the racism and admitted police brutality of Furhman to Hitler . Cochran justified by saying Furhman had NeoNazi locker and memorabilia in his home. Cochran also thought Shapiro was jealous OJ made the call to make Cochran lead attorney (the best decision he could’ve made quite honestly )
Shapiro started working on his book before the trial even ended and he even secretly was recording conversations with the other attorneys and took a tape recorder to jail one day and asked OJ to confess or reveal his inner thoughts.
The Browns and Goldmans also couldn’t stand each other during the trial. A row happened once because OJ waved hello at Nicole’s mother or father and she said hi back. Well, after all the money Oj gave them, it’s understandable why she’d say hi . They went into early retirement due to Oj. Of the parents, Judith was far more sympathetic to OJ for some odd reason
The entire trial was a mess
Anonymous
04/19/2024 22:32
Subject: OJ simpson Died
Read Another City, Not My Own. By Dominick Dunne. It's the best chronicle of the characters and mood of the time. He thought OJ was guilty but respected his dignified family. Thought the Browns were shady and behaved inappropriately at the trial. Had awful things to say about the defense team (save Kardashian).
Anonymous
04/19/2024 22:08
Subject: OJ simpson Died
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2004-sep-17-me-peterson17-story.html
Why would Scott shake and weep like this upon seeing his dead wife and dead sons photographs ? He asked the court to keep him out of the room upon viewing pictures .
He's acting. Remember this guy told his mistress his wife had died.
It’s hard to actually cry tears like that if you’re faking it especially for a man
Anonymous
04/19/2024 19:59
Subject: OJ simpson Died
Anonymous wrote:https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2004-sep-17-me-peterson17-story.html
Why would Scott shake and weep like this upon seeing his dead wife and dead sons photographs ? He asked the court to keep him out of the room upon viewing pictures .
He's acting. Remember this guy told his mistress his wife had died.
Anonymous
04/19/2024 18:25
Subject: OJ simpson Died
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2004-sep-17-me-peterson17-story.html
Why would Scott shake and weep like this upon seeing his dead wife and dead sons photographs ? He asked the court to keep him out of the room upon viewing pictures .
Why would Scott shake and weep like this upon seeing his dead wife and dead sons photographs ? He asked the court to keep him out of the room upon viewing pictures .
Anonymous
04/19/2024 18:23
Subject: OJ simpson Died
Most medical examiners aren’t even doctors . There is such a shortage of forensic pathologists that states /counties have to hire medical examiners who didn’t pass their Board exams .
The autopsies, description of injuries . and times of deaths can be very very off and people get convicted largely based on this timeline of the “expert”. The amount of mistakes in the Nicole and Ron and Laci and Conner autopsies are notable
The autopsies, description of injuries . and times of deaths can be very very off and people get convicted largely based on this timeline of the “expert”. The amount of mistakes in the Nicole and Ron and Laci and Conner autopsies are notable
Anonymous
04/19/2024 18:18
Subject: OJ simpson Died
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They were able to bring top of the line scientists and forensic experts to explain how EDTA isn’t man made and how two human stabbings leading to no blood in the getaway vehicle or home is absurd and not humanly possible. Stabbings of the chest are basically as bloody and messy as open heart surgery.
The jury made the right decision . The prosecutions entire case relied on the cops /Furhman and his racist tapes , the missing blood from the vial, and the EDTA found on the sock ruined it.
Usually, someone without OJ’s money , like a Scott Peterson is screwed when it comes to fighting the police detectives work but OJ went broke to hire the best of the best
Why on earth would the police try to pin a heinous murder on Scott Peterson? Wouldn’t they be more concerned about public safety, when there was a deranged lunatic running around snatching up pregnant women and murdering them?
The police try to solve crimes to keep the public safe. Yes, sometimes they’re corrupt, but most of the time, they are looking to solve crimes and get dangerous perpetrators off the streets. They had nothing to gain from railroading Scott Peterson.
Your comment make me wish there was an iq test for having children and voting.
I feel the same about iQ test and voting but for your ilk.
Connor was found without umbilical cord or placenta. Did she give birth while drowning and detach the placenta herself in freezing Christmas Eve waters?
Did Scott deliver the baby himself ? No stabbings or blood found at home or on the boat.
How was the baby born?
Like OJ, the time line is tricky and the time of deaths corroborated by surprise and state may not be accurate. Laci could’ve died in February after the baby was born . Theres no proof Scott did this double murder certainly not enough to get the death penalty.
What led people is pure emotion and just because Scott and OJ were bad husbands. Being bad husbands don’t necessarily mean they are guilty of double murder. Police ignored all the other leads to other suspects that may potentially have the window of opportunity or motive to do those crimes
Anonymous
04/19/2024 18:17
Subject: OJ simpson Died
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:In the excellent documentary OJ: Made in America there is a digital video recreation of what seasoned detectives believe happened.
OJ went there to kill Nicole. He was lurking when Ron walked up and buzzed the gate, and Nicole came out to the gate to let him in. Before the gate closed, OJ pushed in on them as they stood chatting and he knocked Ron to the ground with a punch, then knocked Nicole out with the butt of the knife in a blow to her head which propelled her head into the wall. Nicole is out on the ground,
OJ turns to Ron, who is cornered between gates on two side and a tree on the other with OJ coming at him with a very large knife. He puts up his hands in defense which is how he gets numerous defensive cuts all over them. OJ grabs him by the shirt and stabs him in the face and neck, then begins stabbing his torso. Ron is struggling and managed to remove OJ’s knit cap and one of the gloves from his left hand. One of the torso stabs severs his abdominal artery which gives him less than a minute to live - he bleeds out internally and slumps back against the fencing then slumps to his side, unconscious, bleeding out internally and externally.
OJ turns to Nicole - he picks her up off the ground and stabs her repeatedly in the face and neck, what detectives describe as taunting, torturing wounds inflicted likely while he said the things he wanted to say to her in his murderous rage. Then he pulled her head back by the hair and cut her neck clean across, severing everything inside her neck and chipping her spinal vertebrae. The autopsy photos are horrific, but it is NOT a Columbian necktie.
Police believe that following the finishing off of Nicole, OJ returned to Ron’s body while searching in the dark for his cap and glove, which he cannot find. He slashes Ron’s neck one last time, a very deep wound like Nicole’s but only to one side of the neck which is exposed in his death pose.
OJ then exits the killing scene, leaving Bruno Magli footprints in blood and by the left side a series of his blood drops from his bleeding left middle finger, which was wounded after Ron pulled off the glove. He runs to the back alley where he parked his Bronco and he returns to Rockingham where he is seen by the limo driver walking up to the house.
It was a frenzied killing and OJ left a mountain of evidence. If Rodney King hadn’t happened it’s likely OJ would have been convicted. Even though he didn’t go to prison, his life as he knew and loved it was over - he was ostracized by most of his Brentwood friends and Hollywood friends and basically most everyone but the black community who he never cared about before he was a pariah.
I take some comfort from knowing he spent years in prison and most importantly all the rest of his life in a prison of his own making, where he knew he wasn’t loved like he had once been.
What is also interesting is Nicole told OK that Sydney would have a sleepover that night. I think she lied because she didn’t want OJ coming over because Ron was there.
Both sides can use this as a point . People that don’t believe he did it use this to say OJ wouldn’t come over to kill since he expected the house to be filled with kids.
People that believe he did think he came over to check if there really was a sleepover and was pissed and arguing with Nicole when he realized the reason was Ron was coming over
She probably lied so he wouldn’t come over, not because Ron would be there but because she could see OJ was angry at her already and she knew how dangerous he was and was afraid.
Anonymous
04/19/2024 17:43
Subject: OJ simpson Died
She was looking for a big cash grab by writing and publishing a salacious book a few months
After the murders.
Though Faye Resnick had close ties with several well-known faces in Beverly Hills prior to Nicole Brown's death, it was only after the tragic murder that she became something of a household name. Much of that was owed to the fact that mere months after Nicole was killed, Resnick released her book, "Nicole Simpson: The Private Diary of a Life Interrupted.
That Resnick released the book while the trial was taking place was controversial in itself. In fact, soon after its release, the presiding judge, Lance Ito, had to request that jurors avoid any media. A day later, the Los Angeles Times reported that Ito had also reached out to the media to request that they hold off on interviewing Resnick to avoid further attention.
There was also a ton of controversy amongst Nicole's loved ones. For one, the Los Angeles Times noted that her father, Lou Brown, said that he felt Resnick was cashing in. Given that it was reported she'd earned a hefty advance from her publisher, things didn't exactly look good. Another unnamed friend echoed that sentiment. "Faye is just desperate for money," they claimed. However, Resnick's publisher disagreed. In fact, Michael Viner pointed out that if she'd really wanted to make a buck, she would have spoken to the tabloids instead — and even hinted that some of the women in the friend group had done so.
As Faye Resnick shared in "Nicole Brown Simpson: The Secret Diary of a Life Interrupted," she was in treatment for a cocaine addiction at the time of Nicole Brown's death. It's something she's never hidden from the public, even though she knew it would be used to discredit her — and naturally, it was. That said, even with the attempts at undermining her credibility, she clapped back.
Read More: https://www.nickiswift.com/1484700/faye-resnick-shady-side/
After the murders.
Though Faye Resnick had close ties with several well-known faces in Beverly Hills prior to Nicole Brown's death, it was only after the tragic murder that she became something of a household name. Much of that was owed to the fact that mere months after Nicole was killed, Resnick released her book, "Nicole Simpson: The Private Diary of a Life Interrupted.
That Resnick released the book while the trial was taking place was controversial in itself. In fact, soon after its release, the presiding judge, Lance Ito, had to request that jurors avoid any media. A day later, the Los Angeles Times reported that Ito had also reached out to the media to request that they hold off on interviewing Resnick to avoid further attention.
There was also a ton of controversy amongst Nicole's loved ones. For one, the Los Angeles Times noted that her father, Lou Brown, said that he felt Resnick was cashing in. Given that it was reported she'd earned a hefty advance from her publisher, things didn't exactly look good. Another unnamed friend echoed that sentiment. "Faye is just desperate for money," they claimed. However, Resnick's publisher disagreed. In fact, Michael Viner pointed out that if she'd really wanted to make a buck, she would have spoken to the tabloids instead — and even hinted that some of the women in the friend group had done so.
As Faye Resnick shared in "Nicole Brown Simpson: The Secret Diary of a Life Interrupted," she was in treatment for a cocaine addiction at the time of Nicole Brown's death. It's something she's never hidden from the public, even though she knew it would be used to discredit her — and naturally, it was. That said, even with the attempts at undermining her credibility, she clapped back.
Read More: https://www.nickiswift.com/1484700/faye-resnick-shady-side/
Anonymous
04/19/2024 17:28
Subject: OJ simpson Died
I do think Faye Resnick is a rather shady character. She seems very weird in her commentary about Nicole in her book. The woman gave you a free place to stay as a junkie and you trash her by calling her a whore. She also kept praising OJ as a better parent than Nicole.
Faye kept saying Nicole knew how to push OJs buttons and knew how to get any man she wanted.
It seems like victim blaming.
Faye kept saying Nicole knew how to push OJs buttons and knew how to get any man she wanted.
It seems like victim blaming.
Anonymous
04/19/2024 17:15
Subject: OJ simpson Died
Anonymous wrote:In the excellent documentary OJ: Made in America there is a digital video recreation of what seasoned detectives believe happened.
OJ went there to kill Nicole. He was lurking when Ron walked up and buzzed the gate, and Nicole came out to the gate to let him in. Before the gate closed, OJ pushed in on them as they stood chatting and he knocked Ron to the ground with a punch, then knocked Nicole out with the butt of the knife in a blow to her head which propelled her head into the wall. Nicole is out on the ground,
OJ turns to Ron, who is cornered between gates on two side and a tree on the other with OJ coming at him with a very large knife. He puts up his hands in defense which is how he gets numerous defensive cuts all over them. OJ grabs him by the shirt and stabs him in the face and neck, then begins stabbing his torso. Ron is struggling and managed to remove OJ’s knit cap and one of the gloves from his left hand. One of the torso stabs severs his abdominal artery which gives him less than a minute to live - he bleeds out internally and slumps back against the fencing then slumps to his side, unconscious, bleeding out internally and externally.
OJ turns to Nicole - he picks her up off the ground and stabs her repeatedly in the face and neck, what detectives describe as taunting, torturing wounds inflicted likely while he said the things he wanted to say to her in his murderous rage. Then he pulled her head back by the hair and cut her neck clean across, severing everything inside her neck and chipping her spinal vertebrae. The autopsy photos are horrific, but it is NOT a Columbian necktie.
Police believe that following the finishing off of Nicole, OJ returned to Ron’s body while searching in the dark for his cap and glove, which he cannot find. He slashes Ron’s neck one last time, a very deep wound like Nicole’s but only to one side of the neck which is exposed in his death pose.
OJ then exits the killing scene, leaving Bruno Magli footprints in blood and by the left side a series of his blood drops from his bleeding left middle finger, which was wounded after Ron pulled off the glove. He runs to the back alley where he parked his Bronco and he returns to Rockingham where he is seen by the limo driver walking up to the house.
It was a frenzied killing and OJ left a mountain of evidence. If Rodney King hadn’t happened it’s likely OJ would have been convicted. Even though he didn’t go to prison, his life as he knew and loved it was over - he was ostracized by most of his Brentwood friends and Hollywood friends and basically most everyone but the black community who he never cared about before he was a pariah.
I take some comfort from knowing he spent years in prison and most importantly all the rest of his life in a prison of his own making, where he knew he wasn’t loved like he had once been.
What is also interesting is Nicole told OK that Sydney would have a sleepover that night. I think she lied because she didn’t want OJ coming over because Ron was there.
Both sides can use this as a point . People that don’t believe he did it use this to say OJ wouldn’t come over to kill since he expected the house to be filled with kids.
People that believe he did think he came over to check if there really was a sleepover and was pissed and arguing with Nicole when he realized the reason was Ron was coming over
Anonymous
04/19/2024 16:03
Subject: OJ simpson Died
In the excellent documentary OJ: Made in America there is a digital video recreation of what seasoned detectives believe happened.
OJ went there to kill Nicole. He was lurking when Ron walked up and buzzed the gate, and Nicole came out to the gate to let him in. Before the gate closed, OJ pushed in on them as they stood chatting and he knocked Ron to the ground with a punch, then knocked Nicole out with the butt of the knife in a blow to her head which propelled her head into the wall. Nicole is out on the ground,
OJ turns to Ron, who is cornered between gates on two side and a tree on the other with OJ coming at him with a very large knife. He puts up his hands in defense which is how he gets numerous defensive cuts all over them. OJ grabs him by the shirt and stabs him in the face and neck, then begins stabbing his torso. Ron is struggling and managed to remove OJ’s knit cap and one of the gloves from his left hand. One of the torso stabs severs his abdominal artery which gives him less than a minute to live - he bleeds out internally and slumps back against the fencing then slumps to his side, unconscious, bleeding out internally and externally.
OJ turns to Nicole - he picks her up off the ground and stabs her repeatedly in the face and neck, what detectives describe as taunting, torturing wounds inflicted likely while he said the things he wanted to say to her in his murderous rage. Then he pulled her head back by the hair and cut her neck clean across, severing everything inside her neck and chipping her spinal vertebrae. The autopsy photos are horrific, but it is NOT a Columbian necktie.
Police believe that following the finishing off of Nicole, OJ returned to Ron’s body while searching in the dark for his cap and glove, which he cannot find. He slashes Ron’s neck one last time, a very deep wound like Nicole’s but only to one side of the neck which is exposed in his death pose.
OJ then exits the killing scene, leaving Bruno Magli footprints in blood and by the left side a series of his blood drops from his bleeding left middle finger, which was wounded after Ron pulled off the glove. He runs to the back alley where he parked his Bronco and he returns to Rockingham where he is seen by the limo driver walking up to the house.
It was a frenzied killing and OJ left a mountain of evidence. If Rodney King hadn’t happened it’s likely OJ would have been convicted. Even though he didn’t go to prison, his life as he knew and loved it was over - he was ostracized by most of his Brentwood friends and Hollywood friends and basically most everyone but the black community who he never cared about before he was a pariah.
I take some comfort from knowing he spent years in prison and most importantly all the rest of his life in a prison of his own making, where he knew he wasn’t loved like he had once been.
OJ went there to kill Nicole. He was lurking when Ron walked up and buzzed the gate, and Nicole came out to the gate to let him in. Before the gate closed, OJ pushed in on them as they stood chatting and he knocked Ron to the ground with a punch, then knocked Nicole out with the butt of the knife in a blow to her head which propelled her head into the wall. Nicole is out on the ground,
OJ turns to Ron, who is cornered between gates on two side and a tree on the other with OJ coming at him with a very large knife. He puts up his hands in defense which is how he gets numerous defensive cuts all over them. OJ grabs him by the shirt and stabs him in the face and neck, then begins stabbing his torso. Ron is struggling and managed to remove OJ’s knit cap and one of the gloves from his left hand. One of the torso stabs severs his abdominal artery which gives him less than a minute to live - he bleeds out internally and slumps back against the fencing then slumps to his side, unconscious, bleeding out internally and externally.
OJ turns to Nicole - he picks her up off the ground and stabs her repeatedly in the face and neck, what detectives describe as taunting, torturing wounds inflicted likely while he said the things he wanted to say to her in his murderous rage. Then he pulled her head back by the hair and cut her neck clean across, severing everything inside her neck and chipping her spinal vertebrae. The autopsy photos are horrific, but it is NOT a Columbian necktie.
Police believe that following the finishing off of Nicole, OJ returned to Ron’s body while searching in the dark for his cap and glove, which he cannot find. He slashes Ron’s neck one last time, a very deep wound like Nicole’s but only to one side of the neck which is exposed in his death pose.
OJ then exits the killing scene, leaving Bruno Magli footprints in blood and by the left side a series of his blood drops from his bleeding left middle finger, which was wounded after Ron pulled off the glove. He runs to the back alley where he parked his Bronco and he returns to Rockingham where he is seen by the limo driver walking up to the house.
It was a frenzied killing and OJ left a mountain of evidence. If Rodney King hadn’t happened it’s likely OJ would have been convicted. Even though he didn’t go to prison, his life as he knew and loved it was over - he was ostracized by most of his Brentwood friends and Hollywood friends and basically most everyone but the black community who he never cared about before he was a pariah.
I take some comfort from knowing he spent years in prison and most importantly all the rest of his life in a prison of his own making, where he knew he wasn’t loved like he had once been.
Anonymous
04/19/2024 15:34
Subject: OJ simpson Died
Ron did have the envelope with her mothers glasses by his side so presumably he was never able to make it inside the house and hang with Nicole .
How did he get in ? Did he jump the gate after hearing Nicole’s cries? I find it hard to believe the gate would be open during a murder in plain window view of opposite neighbors and with a loose dog .
How did he get in ? Did he jump the gate after hearing Nicole’s cries? I find it hard to believe the gate would be open during a murder in plain window view of opposite neighbors and with a loose dog .
Anonymous
04/19/2024 15:21
Subject: Re:OJ simpson Died
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To be fair, if anyone responding on here by saying that O.J. Simpson was innocent, is under say…..45 yrs. old then sorry but your opinion would be simply based on things that you have read about, etc.
Those 45+ who actually remember when everything happened actually can vouch for the fact that there was a lot of compelling evidence presented in court, however the jury simply focused on the wrong things when making their decision to acquit.
There were mistakes made during the aftermath of the actual murder, I.e., contaminated blood from investigators walking throughout the crime scene.
Also, Mark Furhman, the detective who claimed he found the bloody glove on OJ’s property could not be trusted since he publicly perjured himself on the witness stand.
That key part was a huge blow to the defense as nothing he said could be taken in as legitimate.
Finally the jury pool was predominantly Black and at the time, Black people were still hugely angry due to the Rodney King situation and this was a golden opportunity to make a statement.
OJ had a ton of compelling evidence against him - DNA and more.
However there were other factors at play during the trial which the jury focused on instead which caused a murderer to walk free. 🙁
+2
This is an excellent point indeed.
Those who are saying O.J. Simpson is innocent were likely not even born when the trial occurred or if they were they likely were still too young to have known what was going on in our country.
They mostly are just going off of what they have read or seen of the past…..or here say.
You would likely have to be in your forties now if you actually remember all that went on in ‘95.
Well, I'm in my 50's and remember the events of OJ's arrest and trail fairly well. However, I was never a fan of his so I didn't follow the trial. By follow the trial, I mean that I didn't come home from work to watch any of it on TV or listen to the talking heads or "legal experts" dissect the events of the day. The jury found him not guilty in the criminal trial, and that was good enough for me.
Anonymous
04/19/2024 15:20
Subject: OJ simpson Died
Nicole was also barefoot . I don’t see her, a woman who had drawn a pretty bath with candles around and worn a nice black bodysuit , as the type to walk barefoot from her front door to the gate entry at night to open it. I think she was inside the house with the killer for some time and the fight/chase happened from inside .