Anonymous
12/27/2023 16:14
Subject: Re:Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Forbes: "Covid levels have once again rebounded, hitting their highest levels since last December.."
"..The CDC lists 23 states as having “very high” levels of Covid, according to wastewater data, primarily in the Northeast, Midwest and upper Great Plains (Arkansas, Delaware, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, New Jersey, North Carolina, Ohio, South Carolina, South Dakota, Vermont, West Virginia and Wisconsin).
Another 12 states are considered to have “high” levels of Covid, including Alabama, Arizona, California, Colorado, Kansas, Nevada, New York, Rhode Island, Tennessee, Texas, Utah and Virginia..."
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/12/21/covid-levels-surge-as-millions-of-americans-plan-holiday-travel-heres-where-its-spreading/?sh=44f8eca441e1
Yes, Forbes, the well-known medical journal...
Setting that aside, and fact that wastewater data is not an accurate, direct measure of cases, covid is a respiratory virus. What did you expect to see in the winter?
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#datatracker-home (but you're probably trumpy and don't believe the CDC either, amirite?)
I'm not sure what point you're making. It's winter-- of course respiratory viruses are up. Do you put out a press release when you have a bowel movement, too?
Anonymous
12/27/2023 14:48
Subject: Re:Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Forbes: "Covid levels have once again rebounded, hitting their highest levels since last December.."
"..The CDC lists 23 states as having “very high” levels of Covid, according to wastewater data, primarily in the Northeast, Midwest and upper Great Plains (Arkansas, Delaware, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, New Jersey, North Carolina, Ohio, South Carolina, South Dakota, Vermont, West Virginia and Wisconsin).
Another 12 states are considered to have “high” levels of Covid, including Alabama, Arizona, California, Colorado, Kansas, Nevada, New York, Rhode Island, Tennessee, Texas, Utah and Virginia..."
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/12/21/covid-levels-surge-as-millions-of-americans-plan-holiday-travel-heres-where-its-spreading/?sh=44f8eca441e1
Yes, Forbes, the well-known medical journal...
Setting that aside, and fact that wastewater data is not an accurate, direct measure of cases, covid is a respiratory virus. What did you expect to see in the winter?
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#datatracker-home (but you're probably trumpy and don't believe the CDC either, amirite?)
DP Covid cases always rise in winter, so it's not useful to cite week-over-week or month-over-month changes. Of course those latter measures will show growth in winter due to seasonal factors. You want to look at year-over-year growth measures which strip out the seasonal component and thus better show underlying changes. Covid hospitalizations are the lowest they have been for any December and are down 30% relative to last year at this time. We are in a much better position than we have been with covid previously in terms of hospitalizations & deaths this winter, despite minimal uptake of the new booster. https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#trends_weeklyhospitaladmissions_select_00
Anonymous
12/27/2023 14:35
Subject: Re:Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Forbes: "Covid levels have once again rebounded, hitting their highest levels since last December.."
"..The CDC lists 23 states as having “very high” levels of Covid, according to wastewater data, primarily in the Northeast, Midwest and upper Great Plains (Arkansas, Delaware, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, New Jersey, North Carolina, Ohio, South Carolina, South Dakota, Vermont, West Virginia and Wisconsin).
Another 12 states are considered to have “high” levels of Covid, including Alabama, Arizona, California, Colorado, Kansas, Nevada, New York, Rhode Island, Tennessee, Texas, Utah and Virginia..."
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/12/21/covid-levels-surge-as-millions-of-americans-plan-holiday-travel-heres-where-its-spreading/?sh=44f8eca441e1
Yes, Forbes, the well-known medical journal...
Setting that aside, and fact that wastewater data is not an accurate, direct measure of cases, covid is a respiratory virus. What did you expect to see in the winter?
Wastewater is an accurate measure of the current prevalence of Covid (and other viruses) in the community. High wastewater levels correlate with an increase in hospitalizations about 2 weeks later.
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2807632
We are undeniably in the midst of a Covid wave. No, it will not be as high as the original Omicron wave in 2021, but it may be the second highest wave when it peaks in about 2 weeks. Complicating matters, flu cases are also high and on the rise. RSV cases seem to have peaked.
Thank you to all of you who have worked so hard to attack the usefulness of vaccines and other public health measures - you've done a great job!
No. "it is not possible to reliably and accurately predict the number of infected individuals in a community based on wastewater testing."
https://www.cdc.gov/nwss/wastewater-surveillance.html
Anonymous
12/27/2023 14:31
Subject: Re:Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Forbes: "Covid levels have once again rebounded, hitting their highest levels since last December.."
"..The CDC lists 23 states as having “very high” levels of Covid, according to wastewater data, primarily in the Northeast, Midwest and upper Great Plains (Arkansas, Delaware, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, New Jersey, North Carolina, Ohio, South Carolina, South Dakota, Vermont, West Virginia and Wisconsin).
Another 12 states are considered to have “high” levels of Covid, including Alabama, Arizona, California, Colorado, Kansas, Nevada, New York, Rhode Island, Tennessee, Texas, Utah and Virginia..."
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/12/21/covid-levels-surge-as-millions-of-americans-plan-holiday-travel-heres-where-its-spreading/?sh=44f8eca441e1
Yes, Forbes, the well-known medical journal...
Setting that aside, and fact that wastewater data is not an accurate, direct measure of cases, covid is a respiratory virus. What did you expect to see in the winter?
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#datatracker-home (but you're probably trumpy and don't believe the CDC either, amirite?)
Anonymous
12/27/2023 13:50
Subject: Re:Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Forbes: "Covid levels have once again rebounded, hitting their highest levels since last December.."
"..The CDC lists 23 states as having “very high” levels of Covid, according to wastewater data, primarily in the Northeast, Midwest and upper Great Plains (Arkansas, Delaware, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, New Jersey, North Carolina, Ohio, South Carolina, South Dakota, Vermont, West Virginia and Wisconsin).
Another 12 states are considered to have “high” levels of Covid, including Alabama, Arizona, California, Colorado, Kansas, Nevada, New York, Rhode Island, Tennessee, Texas, Utah and Virginia..."
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/12/21/covid-levels-surge-as-millions-of-americans-plan-holiday-travel-heres-where-its-spreading/?sh=44f8eca441e1
Yes, Forbes, the well-known medical journal...
Setting that aside, and fact that wastewater data is not an accurate, direct measure of cases, covid is a respiratory virus. What did you expect to see in the winter?
Wastewater is an accurate measure of the current prevalence of Covid (and other viruses) in the community. High wastewater levels correlate with an increase in hospitalizations about 2 weeks later.
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2807632
We are undeniably in the midst of a Covid wave. No, it will not be as high as the original Omicron wave in 2021, but it may be the second highest wave when it peaks in about 2 weeks. Complicating matters, flu cases are also high and on the rise. RSV cases seem to have peaked.
Thank you to all of you who have worked so hard to attack the usefulness of vaccines and other public health measures - you've done a great job!
"Correlation" is not measurement.
Anonymous
12/27/2023 13:48
Subject: Re:Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Forbes: "Covid levels have once again rebounded, hitting their highest levels since last December.."
"..The CDC lists 23 states as having “very high” levels of Covid, according to wastewater data, primarily in the Northeast, Midwest and upper Great Plains (Arkansas, Delaware, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, New Jersey, North Carolina, Ohio, South Carolina, South Dakota, Vermont, West Virginia and Wisconsin).
Another 12 states are considered to have “high” levels of Covid, including Alabama, Arizona, California, Colorado, Kansas, Nevada, New York, Rhode Island, Tennessee, Texas, Utah and Virginia..."
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/12/21/covid-levels-surge-as-millions-of-americans-plan-holiday-travel-heres-where-its-spreading/?sh=44f8eca441e1
Yes, Forbes, the well-known medical journal...
Setting that aside, and fact that wastewater data is not an accurate, direct measure of cases, covid is a respiratory virus. What did you expect to see in the winter?
What do YOU expect in January and February?
More of the same. Covid spreading, but not being a big deal overall. Hospitals will be busy, but no more so than any other flu season (80% capacity would be pretty typical for this time of year).
Anonymous
12/27/2023 13:48
Subject: Re:Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:People need to get vaccinated. It is the holiday season. Stop the spread for heaven's sake!
The CDC doesn't claim that the booster stops spread/transmission. They only say that it helps protect against serious illness. (Which is very rare anyhow for healthy people post-Omicron.) https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/stay-up-to-date.html
If it's not stopping transmission I see no reason to keep taking it when we don't know the long term impact of the boosters. And, covid is far less serious so basic precautions such as masking and handwashing are probably equally effective. More effective is people staying home when sick.
What about asymptomatic carriers??????
Ok, and?
Vaccination prevents covid and thus asymptomatic carriers would be included.
Hahahahahahahaha at the bolded. Are you writing from spring of 2021? A Biden publicist? Wait, I know, you watch CNN!
Anonymous
12/27/2023 13:40
Subject: Re:Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:People need to get vaccinated. It is the holiday season. Stop the spread for heaven's sake!
The CDC doesn't claim that the booster stops spread/transmission. They only say that it helps protect against serious illness. (Which is very rare anyhow for healthy people post-Omicron.) https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/stay-up-to-date.html
If it's not stopping transmission I see no reason to keep taking it when we don't know the long term impact of the boosters. And, covid is far less serious so basic precautions such as masking and handwashing are probably equally effective. More effective is people staying home when sick.
What about asymptomatic carriers??????
Ok, and?
Vaccination prevents covid and thus asymptomatic carriers would be included.
I thought we all agreed that the vaccines do not prevent covid. They prevent people from dying from covid. Actually making more carriers that aren't super sick with covid and still out there living life with their covid infected selves on Nyquil.
PP is ignorant.
We're all vaxed, and we've all had covid twice since being vaxxed. No one died, or even got super sick.
Covid vax does NOT prevent covid. Since covid is no longer a threat to my family, we don't need more covid vaccines. But if you are very old or very ill, get the vaccine because it may prevent you from becoming seriously ill if you contract the most recent covid iteration.
Anonymous
12/27/2023 13:36
Subject: Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Anonymous wrote:What are we in for?
A seasonal cold. Just like all the generations before us. This isn't the black death. It's covid.
OP, just stop this sheet!
Are you back in 2020?
Covid is no longer dangerous to the healthy.
ANY virus is dangerous to the unhealthy, including flu, cold, and any other of zillions of viruses that make human beings sick every year.
No more covid vaxes for me. I'm healthy. I've had covid thrice, BTW. The last time, a few months ago, it was the sniffles. I wouldn't have known it was covid, except DH insisted that I take a test because he was required to test for work.
Anonymous
12/27/2023 13:33
Subject: Re:Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Forbes: "Covid levels have once again rebounded, hitting their highest levels since last December.."
"..The CDC lists 23 states as having “very high” levels of Covid, according to wastewater data, primarily in the Northeast, Midwest and upper Great Plains (Arkansas, Delaware, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, New Jersey, North Carolina, Ohio, South Carolina, South Dakota, Vermont, West Virginia and Wisconsin).
Another 12 states are considered to have “high” levels of Covid, including Alabama, Arizona, California, Colorado, Kansas, Nevada, New York, Rhode Island, Tennessee, Texas, Utah and Virginia..."
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/12/21/covid-levels-surge-as-millions-of-americans-plan-holiday-travel-heres-where-its-spreading/?sh=44f8eca441e1
Yes, Forbes, the well-known medical journal...
Setting that aside, and fact that wastewater data is not an accurate, direct measure of cases, covid is a respiratory virus. What did you expect to see in the winter?
Wastewater is an accurate measure of the current prevalence of Covid (and other viruses) in the community. High wastewater levels correlate with an increase in hospitalizations about 2 weeks later.
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2807632
We are undeniably in the midst of a Covid wave. No, it will not be as high as the original Omicron wave in 2021, but it may be the second highest wave when it peaks in about 2 weeks. Complicating matters, flu cases are also high and on the rise. RSV cases seem to have peaked.
Thank you to all of you who have worked so hard to attack the usefulness of vaccines and other public health measures - you've done a great job!
Anonymous
12/27/2023 13:27
Subject: Re:Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
I saw this thread and got my vaccine this morning when I went to pick up a prescription. Thanks for the reminder, DCUM!
I had COVID for the first time in September. It was brutal. Don't want that again.
Stay healthy, everyone!
I had COVID for the first time in September. It was brutal. Don't want that again.
Stay healthy, everyone!
Anonymous
12/27/2023 13:24
Subject: Re:Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Forbes: "Covid levels have once again rebounded, hitting their highest levels since last December.."
"..The CDC lists 23 states as having “very high” levels of Covid, according to wastewater data, primarily in the Northeast, Midwest and upper Great Plains (Arkansas, Delaware, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, New Jersey, North Carolina, Ohio, South Carolina, South Dakota, Vermont, West Virginia and Wisconsin).
Another 12 states are considered to have “high” levels of Covid, including Alabama, Arizona, California, Colorado, Kansas, Nevada, New York, Rhode Island, Tennessee, Texas, Utah and Virginia..."
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/12/21/covid-levels-surge-as-millions-of-americans-plan-holiday-travel-heres-where-its-spreading/?sh=44f8eca441e1
Yes, Forbes, the well-known medical journal...
Setting that aside, and fact that wastewater data is not an accurate, direct measure of cases, covid is a respiratory virus. What did you expect to see in the winter?
What do YOU expect in January and February?
Anonymous
12/27/2023 10:13
Subject: Re:Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Anonymous wrote:Forbes: "Covid levels have once again rebounded, hitting their highest levels since last December.."
"..The CDC lists 23 states as having “very high” levels of Covid, according to wastewater data, primarily in the Northeast, Midwest and upper Great Plains (Arkansas, Delaware, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, New Jersey, North Carolina, Ohio, South Carolina, South Dakota, Vermont, West Virginia and Wisconsin).
Another 12 states are considered to have “high” levels of Covid, including Alabama, Arizona, California, Colorado, Kansas, Nevada, New York, Rhode Island, Tennessee, Texas, Utah and Virginia..."
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/12/21/covid-levels-surge-as-millions-of-americans-plan-holiday-travel-heres-where-its-spreading/?sh=44f8eca441e1
Yes, Forbes, the well-known medical journal...
Setting that aside, and fact that wastewater data is not an accurate, direct measure of cases, covid is a respiratory virus. What did you expect to see in the winter?
Anonymous
12/27/2023 10:00
Subject: Re:Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Forbes: "Covid levels have once again rebounded, hitting their highest levels since last December.."
"..The CDC lists 23 states as having “very high” levels of Covid, according to wastewater data, primarily in the Northeast, Midwest and upper Great Plains (Arkansas, Delaware, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, New Jersey, North Carolina, Ohio, South Carolina, South Dakota, Vermont, West Virginia and Wisconsin).
Another 12 states are considered to have “high” levels of Covid, including Alabama, Arizona, California, Colorado, Kansas, Nevada, New York, Rhode Island, Tennessee, Texas, Utah and Virginia..."
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/12/21/covid-levels-surge-as-millions-of-americans-plan-holiday-travel-heres-where-its-spreading/?sh=44f8eca441e1
"..The CDC lists 23 states as having “very high” levels of Covid, according to wastewater data, primarily in the Northeast, Midwest and upper Great Plains (Arkansas, Delaware, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, New Jersey, North Carolina, Ohio, South Carolina, South Dakota, Vermont, West Virginia and Wisconsin).
Another 12 states are considered to have “high” levels of Covid, including Alabama, Arizona, California, Colorado, Kansas, Nevada, New York, Rhode Island, Tennessee, Texas, Utah and Virginia..."
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/12/21/covid-levels-surge-as-millions-of-americans-plan-holiday-travel-heres-where-its-spreading/?sh=44f8eca441e1
Anonymous
12/27/2023 09:53
Subject: Re:Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Well it is post Christmas travel time (for the most part) and fingers crossed we will not see a spike/uptick in Covid.....