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Anonymous wrote:IF both W schools and privates were free, what would you choose?

The one with the better resources and lower student teacher ratios. If privates were free they would have to prioritize
these otherwise their quality would change. If private schools did ruthlessly prioritize ratios and resources, I suspect they would get a better population of students, especially if they do away with the whole legacy priority.

This dream world doesn't exist, my friend.

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Anonymous wrote:IF both W schools and privates were free, what would you choose?

I am a new poster and have not been able to read all 46 pages of this thread but I did skim through a it and approached our choice much like you posed this question. We are in a W cluster but had considered private. Particularly Bullis. We decided to stick with our W cluster for many reasons but mostly because the diversity that you speak of at Bullis turned us off. We went to a football game and all the kids they bussed in were playing and the remaining student section was not diverse at all. I also truly believe that the math curriculm in our W cluster is leaps and bounds ahead of Bullis. Other factors lead to our decision as well but in the end even if it was free we decided to pass on private. In my opinion Private is worth it if you go for name recognition which is therefore only worth it when looking for single sex schools and that was not appealing for us.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm always astounded at how racist people think they can be to Asians and they think they are in the right.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone better tell an Iraqi that they don’t count as diverse in the USA. They might as well be a daughter of the American Revolution!

That someone would be the federal government. According to the Census Bureau white includes Middle Easterners.

The private school could classify them as "non white", however. They are not obligated to present the demographics the way a public school does.

Anonymous wrote:My HS going way way back was the number one rated Public School on the United States. We sent numerous kids to Harvard and several 1,600 SAT scores.

We had a program called SWAS - school within a school - students agreed to get zero letter grades all of HS. No even assigned classes. The classrooms did not even have desks. A. Amazing theater program,


We even had amazing extra classes and activities, I took auto repair, Blue print reading, chefs in the kitchen, wood working, metal working, drivers Ed, go cart club I even did boating, SAT review class, drivers Ed, swimming and welding.

Teachers were brilliant and allowed to teach. No immersion programs, no gifted programs, just amazing things. Like day two people who survived Auschwitz concentration camp spoke to us when learning about Holocaust.

Ironically after being listed as public HS with most amount of Ivy League admittance and our high ranking over time school moved to 99 percent Asian.

It is now a “cram school” and every focused academic activity shut down. All robots.

This kids from 1973 were very interesting kids the kids of 2023 are boring kids.

I think a lot has to do the Asian kids today are just focused academic grades and zero on other things. In the end that does not work.

That 1,000 kid HS has amazing swimmers, musicians, theater people, master mechanics, amazing cooks and chefs, kids who were roadies, Grateful Deadheads, authors, pot heads, a real diverse set of individuals.

Can you imagine today a kid from my HS did SWAS with no GPA and did not take SAT get into Harvard on the strength of just his Essay and interview.

Be honest. Really honest at Walt Whitman, Wooten if Asian parents would be able to digest no grades or SATs and classrooms with just couches and kids doing this type of HS?

It can only exist in private schools today. I personally got accepted colleges who told me they just saw name of HS and all they needed to accept.

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Anonymous wrote:My old boss who made 10 million a year sent kids to public school, and in state college. He also is giving them no inheritance or helping them financially Post college.

Does not want spoiled kids. Good for him. He is worth like 100 million and is giving it all away to people who need it.

Plenty of spoiled kids go to public school.

Sending your kid to a top private school will not necessarily spoil them.

I don't mind "spoiling" my kid with private school. There's a lot worse things to spoil you kid with.

Wealthy private school parent here. Yep, I admit I spoiled my children with a top notch education. I’m not spoiling them with designer clothes, the newest tech devices or fancy cars. I like to think that I have my priorities straight!

And this is exactly why I send my kid to private school...so they are surrounded by families like yours who prioritize education over material things like cars, clothes, homes, and vacations.

Private school families - prioritizing education

Public school families - Prioritizing ????

Prioritizing education has nothing to do with private or public. People opt of different options due to various reasons.

eh. most private school parents send their kids to private schools because they can, not because the "prioritize" education. Do these rich people think all these public school Asian American parents don't prioritize their kids' education? If they thought private school was the best, they'd scrimp and save to send their kids to private school.

Plenty of Asian Americans do just that.

? define "plenty"? Oh, you mean the handful of token Asians you see in private schools?

please.

-signed an Asian American

Or you mean the half the kids in my daughter’s private school class who aren’t white?

Do you understand that "not white" doesn't mean only Asian?

Please post which school/grade, and % of Asian students in the grade that shows "half your daughter's private school class is Asian". Thanks.

Thanks, I’m well aware. I’m part-Asian myself.

I don't know that you actually do, since you stated "half the kids in my daughter’s private school class who aren’t white" in a discussion about Asian students in private school.

So, again, please post the private school and % of Asians to show that "half the class is Asian". Thanks.

I didn’t say half the class is Asian. I said half the class isn’t white.

And I’m not risking outing myself by naming my kid’s school, but if you look at the websites of most of the private schools in this area, they’re about 40% students of color. They don’t usually break it down further than that.

Sidwell: 57%
Norwood: 40%
Holton: 40%
GDS: 40%
Landon: 41%

ok, but this particular discussion was about Asians in private school.

Someone stated that only private school parents prioritize education.

I stated that Asian parents also prioritize education, probably more than any other group, and that most Asian parents with means still send their kids to public school.

Then you or someone stated that "plenty of Asian parents" send their kids to private.

So I asked, "define plenty".

To which you responded: "half the kids in your kid's class is non white". That doesn't answer the question. You get an F there.

Then I asked you to post the % of Asian students in the class, to which you responded, "I didn't say Asian". So, again, you didn't understand the question. Another F.


So, once again, Asian parents, who prioritize education more so than any other group, largely send their kids to public school.

Hopefully, that was clear.

Yeah, no.

Given that 90% of kids go to public school, the majority of any demographic group sends their kids to public school. That doesn’t mean anything except that most people can’t afford private school.

? a PP stated that private school parents are the only ones prioritizing education.

I stated Asian parents with means who also prioritize education send their kids to public.

That means that Asian parents with means who also prioritize education send their kids to public school.

Or maybe you could stop stereotyping "Asian parents"?

I think this has more to do with the fact that Asian parents are reluctant to spend money in fee wrap and so will take what is free over paying for it. Many white parents and other races (we are African American) don’t mind making the investment in private school if we can afford it. Luckily we are in a position where we can.

You are gross and racist and narrow minded. The Asian parents we know, and I'm talking Asian parents who are immigrants from Asia, are used to huge schools with lots of competition and still rising to the top so they don't worry about that aspect. I also know several Asian or Asian-American families that turned down top private schools for top publics because the privates tend to be small and insular and not value their type of diversity. I know several Black families who also left or never enrolled privates because they didn't like the lack of diversity. What is wrong with you?

Umm, why so defensive? I am just staying the obvious. I live in a 'W' school zone and it is abundantly clear that the Asian families have moved into this neighborhood exclusively for the schools. (I am in Stonebridge for reference, btw). They are absolutely NOT going to pay for private school. Where we live, there are clearly generations of Asian families living in one house in order to afford to live here (i.e., multiple incomes; eliminating daycare costs because grandparents live in the basement so parents save on 5 years of daycare expenses). That said, the Asian population at Stone Mill has EXPLODED in the last 5-10 years, such that it is now 47.7% Asian (2022 stats). It is now very overcrowded and is heavily worksheet dependent and very factory-like. This not what a lot of wealthy parents are looking for, especially those of us who understand what "whole child" academic environments like private schools are able to offer.

dp.. you are a racist. You assume that the school is now "factory" like because the Asian American population there has "exploded". You think Asian parents have that much sway with MCPS such that they could make the school "factory" like with all the worksheets? You think a 40% white school doesn't have worksheets?

It's good you left that school. Clearly, you're a racist, and we don't want racists in MCPS. I bet if your private school became 40% Asian you'd leave that school, too, claiming it's become "factory" like.

Of all things, I am NOT a racist. I am a factist. Look up the definition. I live here and am telling you what I see and experience.

Fact: Stone Mill is 40% Asian - I said this.

Racist: it's become a factory of worksheets because it's now 40% asian. I did not say this.

I'll repeat:

You think Asian parents have that much sway with MCPS such that they could make the school "factory" like with all the worksheets? You think a 40% white school doesn't have worksheets? I bet if your private school became 40% Asian you'd leave that school, too, claiming it's become "factory" like.

There was a thread recently about how wealthy white people leave schools when they become too Asian because their white kids can't compete with the Asian kids academically. IMO, that's you.

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Anonymous wrote:My old boss who made 10 million a year sent kids to public school, and in state college. He also is giving them no inheritance or helping them financially Post college.

Does not want spoiled kids. Good for him. He is worth like 100 million and is giving it all away to people who need it.

Plenty of spoiled kids go to public school.

Sending your kid to a top private school will not necessarily spoil them.

I don't mind "spoiling" my kid with private school. There's a lot worse things to spoil you kid with.

Wealthy private school parent here. Yep, I admit I spoiled my children with a top notch education. I’m not spoiling them with designer clothes, the newest tech devices or fancy cars. I like to think that I have my priorities straight!

And this is exactly why I send my kid to private school...so they are surrounded by families like yours who prioritize education over material things like cars, clothes, homes, and vacations.

Private school families - prioritizing education

Public school families - Prioritizing ????

Prioritizing education has nothing to do with private or public. People opt of different options due to various reasons.

eh. most private school parents send their kids to private schools because they can, not because the "prioritize" education. Do these rich people think all these public school Asian American parents don't prioritize their kids' education? If they thought private school was the best, they'd scrimp and save to send their kids to private school.

Plenty of Asian Americans do just that.

? define "plenty"? Oh, you mean the handful of token Asians you see in private schools?

please.

-signed an Asian American

Or you mean the half the kids in my daughter’s private school class who aren’t white?

Do you understand that "not white" doesn't mean only Asian?

Please post which school/grade, and % of Asian students in the grade that shows "half your daughter's private school class is Asian". Thanks.

Thanks, I’m well aware. I’m part-Asian myself.

I don't know that you actually do, since you stated "half the kids in my daughter’s private school class who aren’t white" in a discussion about Asian students in private school.

So, again, please post the private school and % of Asians to show that "half the class is Asian". Thanks.

I didn’t say half the class is Asian. I said half the class isn’t white.

And I’m not risking outing myself by naming my kid’s school, but if you look at the websites of most of the private schools in this area, they’re about 40% students of color. They don’t usually break it down further than that.

Sidwell: 57%
Norwood: 40%
Holton: 40%
GDS: 40%
Landon: 41%

ok, but this particular discussion was about Asians in private school.

Someone stated that only private school parents prioritize education.

I stated that Asian parents also prioritize education, probably more than any other group, and that most Asian parents with means still send their kids to public school.

Then you or someone stated that "plenty of Asian parents" send their kids to private.

So I asked, "define plenty".

To which you responded: "half the kids in your kid's class is non white". That doesn't answer the question. You get an F there.

Then I asked you to post the % of Asian students in the class, to which you responded, "I didn't say Asian". So, again, you didn't understand the question. Another F.


So, once again, Asian parents, who prioritize education more so than any other group, largely send their kids to public school.

Hopefully, that was clear.

Yeah, no.

Given that 90% of kids go to public school, the majority of any demographic group sends their kids to public school. That doesn’t mean anything except that most people can’t afford private school.

? a PP stated that private school parents are the only ones prioritizing education.

I stated Asian parents with means who also prioritize education send their kids to public.

That means that Asian parents with means who also prioritize education send their kids to public school.

Or maybe you could stop stereotyping "Asian parents"?

I think this has more to do with the fact that Asian parents are reluctant to spend money in fee wrap and so will take what is free over paying for it. Many white parents and other races (we are African American) don’t mind making the investment in private school if we can afford it. Luckily we are in a position where we can.

You are gross and racist and narrow minded. The Asian parents we know, and I'm talking Asian parents who are immigrants from Asia, are used to huge schools with lots of competition and still rising to the top so they don't worry about that aspect. I also know several Asian or Asian-American families that turned down top private schools for top publics because the privates tend to be small and insular and not value their type of diversity. I know several Black families who also left or never enrolled privates because they didn't like the lack of diversity. What is wrong with you?

Umm, why so defensive? I am just staying the obvious. I live in a 'W' school zone and it is abundantly clear that the Asian families have moved into this neighborhood exclusively for the schools. (I am in Stonebridge for reference, btw). They are absolutely NOT going to pay for private school. Where we live, there are clearly generations of Asian families living in one house in order to afford to live here (i.e., multiple incomes; eliminating daycare costs because grandparents live in the basement so parents save on 5 years of daycare expenses). That said, the Asian population at Stone Mill has EXPLODED in the last 5-10 years, such that it is now 47.7% Asian (2022 stats). It is now very overcrowded and is heavily worksheet dependent and very factory-like. This not what a lot of wealthy parents are looking for, especially those of us who understand what "whole child" academic environments like private schools are able to offer.

dp.. you are a racist. You assume that the school is now "factory" like because the Asian American population there has "exploded". You think Asian parents have that much sway with MCPS such that they could make the school "factory" like with all the worksheets? You think a 40% white school doesn't have worksheets?

It's good you left that school. Clearly, you're a racist, and we don't want racists in MCPS. I bet if your private school became 40% Asian you'd leave that school, too, claiming it's become "factory" like.

Of all things, I am NOT a racist. I am a factist. Look up the definition. I live here and am telling you what I see and experience.

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Anonymous wrote:My old boss who made 10 million a year sent kids to public school, and in state college. He also is giving them no inheritance or helping them financially Post college.

Does not want spoiled kids. Good for him. He is worth like 100 million and is giving it all away to people who need it.

Plenty of spoiled kids go to public school.

Sending your kid to a top private school will not necessarily spoil them.

I don't mind "spoiling" my kid with private school. There's a lot worse things to spoil you kid with.

Wealthy private school parent here. Yep, I admit I spoiled my children with a top notch education. I’m not spoiling them with designer clothes, the newest tech devices or fancy cars. I like to think that I have my priorities straight!

And this is exactly why I send my kid to private school...so they are surrounded by families like yours who prioritize education over material things like cars, clothes, homes, and vacations.

Private school families - prioritizing education

Public school families - Prioritizing ????

Prioritizing education has nothing to do with private or public. People opt of different options due to various reasons.

eh. most private school parents send their kids to private schools because they can, not because the "prioritize" education. Do these rich people think all these public school Asian American parents don't prioritize their kids' education? If they thought private school was the best, they'd scrimp and save to send their kids to private school.

Plenty of Asian Americans do just that.

? define "plenty"? Oh, you mean the handful of token Asians you see in private schools?

please.

-signed an Asian American

Or you mean the half the kids in my daughter’s private school class who aren’t white?

Do you understand that "not white" doesn't mean only Asian?

Please post which school/grade, and % of Asian students in the grade that shows "half your daughter's private school class is Asian". Thanks.

Thanks, I’m well aware. I’m part-Asian myself.

I don't know that you actually do, since you stated "half the kids in my daughter’s private school class who aren’t white" in a discussion about Asian students in private school.

So, again, please post the private school and % of Asians to show that "half the class is Asian". Thanks.

I didn’t say half the class is Asian. I said half the class isn’t white.

And I’m not risking outing myself by naming my kid’s school, but if you look at the websites of most of the private schools in this area, they’re about 40% students of color. They don’t usually break it down further than that.

Sidwell: 57%
Norwood: 40%
Holton: 40%
GDS: 40%
Landon: 41%

ok, but this particular discussion was about Asians in private school.

Someone stated that only private school parents prioritize education.

I stated that Asian parents also prioritize education, probably more than any other group, and that most Asian parents with means still send their kids to public school.

Then you or someone stated that "plenty of Asian parents" send their kids to private.

So I asked, "define plenty".

To which you responded: "half the kids in your kid's class is non white". That doesn't answer the question. You get an F there.

Then I asked you to post the % of Asian students in the class, to which you responded, "I didn't say Asian". So, again, you didn't understand the question. Another F.


So, once again, Asian parents, who prioritize education more so than any other group, largely send their kids to public school.

Hopefully, that was clear.

Yeah, no.

Given that 90% of kids go to public school, the majority of any demographic group sends their kids to public school. That doesn’t mean anything except that most people can’t afford private school.

? a PP stated that private school parents are the only ones prioritizing education.

I stated Asian parents with means who also prioritize education send their kids to public.

That means that Asian parents with means who also prioritize education send their kids to public school.

Or maybe you could stop stereotyping "Asian parents"?

I think this has more to do with the fact that Asian parents are reluctant to spend money in fee wrap and so will take what is free over paying for it. Many white parents and other races (we are African American) don’t mind making the investment in private school if we can afford it. Luckily we are in a position where we can.

You are gross and racist and narrow minded. The Asian parents we know, and I'm talking Asian parents who are immigrants from Asia, are used to huge schools with lots of competition and still rising to the top so they don't worry about that aspect. I also know several Asian or Asian-American families that turned down top private schools for top publics because the privates tend to be small and insular and not value their type of diversity. I know several Black families who also left or never enrolled privates because they didn't like the lack of diversity. What is wrong with you?

Umm, why so defensive? I am just staying the obvious. I live in a 'W' school zone and it is abundantly clear that the Asian families have moved into this neighborhood exclusively for the schools. (I am in Stonebridge for reference, btw). They are absolutely NOT going to pay for private school. Where we live, there are clearly generations of Asian families living in one house in order to afford to live here (i.e., multiple incomes; eliminating daycare costs because grandparents live in the basement so parents save on 5 years of daycare expenses). That said, the Asian population at Stone Mill has EXPLODED in the last 5-10 years, such that it is now 47.7% Asian (2022 stats). It is now very overcrowded and is heavily worksheet dependent and very factory-like. This not what a lot of wealthy parents are looking for, especially those of us who understand what "whole child" academic environments like private schools are able to offer.

dp.. you are a racist. You assume that the school is now "factory" like because the Asian American population there has "exploded". You think Asian parents have that much sway with MCPS such that they could make the school "factory" like with all the worksheets? You think a 40% white school doesn't have worksheets?

It's good you left that school. Clearly, you're a racist, and we don't want racists in MCPS. I bet if your private school became 40% Asian you'd leave that school, too, claiming it's become "factory" like.

Of all things, I am NOT a racist. I am a factist. Look up the definition. I live here and am telling you what I see and experience.

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Anonymous wrote:It's not about money. Niece got into a top private one year and got almost a full ride. Other family members would have supplemented the rest so it was free without any sacrifice from the family or extended family. Still went to TJ. At the private she would have been an "only" from her specific heritage in her grade and one of only 5-6 or fewer Asians and the actual instruction would likely have been inferior to what they would learn in public.

You have no idea what it would have been. Your niece needs to toughen up. You can't always only be around your own demographic.

dp.. ? .. sure, but they had a choice, and their choice was not a private.

How ironic that the race that is suing over racial preferences in college admissions, clearly has a racial preference when selecting a school. Pot meet kettle.

Not Asian but as a person of color demographics do influence my school preferences. I wish it could be different but in today's world where there is so much racism it is important to make sure my children feel like they belong but also be able to experience a classroom with kids from different backgrounds. My kids go to a wealthy school that is highly white and I think it would be better for them to be exposed to a more diverse environment. That could be a private school or a public school. Absurd to criticize someone for thinking about demographics when thinking about a school. Are you white?

My child left Churchill for Bullis. Bullis had way more diversity than Churchill. Bullis had foreign exchange students as well as a variety of racial groups. Bullis offered transportation throughout the DMV and scholarships which added to the socioeconomic diversity within the school. It was the first time my child attended school with peers who didn’t live in Potomac.

Diversity in a school adds to the educational experience. Students bring to class discussions their unique experiences and perspective. Sharing these viewpoints adds to understanding and respect for one another.

I agree with you. However, given the recent Supreme Court decision in which Asians sued to overturn affirmative action, there is a chance that there will be less of this moving forward. So to the poor little black kid with potential from a tough neighborhood, who is working a part time job, doing his damndest to end the generational poverty cycle and whose parent(s) have no extra money for Kumon, your chances of getting into college were just drastically reduced. Thank the the plaintiffs and their supporters.

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Anonymous wrote:It's not about money. Niece got into a top private one year and got almost a full ride. Other family members would have supplemented the rest so it was free without any sacrifice from the family or extended family. Still went to TJ. At the private she would have been an "only" from her specific heritage in her grade and one of only 5-6 or fewer Asians and the actual instruction would likely have been inferior to what they would learn in public.

You have no idea what it would have been. Your niece needs to toughen up. You can't always only be around your own demographic.

dp.. ? .. sure, but they had a choice, and their choice was not a private.

How ironic that the race that is suing over racial preferences in college admissions, clearly has a racial preference when selecting a school. Pot meet kettle.

Not Asian but as a person of color demographics do influence my school preferences. I wish it could be different but in today's world where there is so much racism it is important to make sure my children feel like they belong but also be able to experience a classroom with kids from different backgrounds. My kids go to a wealthy school that is highly white and I think it would be better for them to be exposed to a more diverse environment. That could be a private school or a public school. Absurd to criticize someone for thinking about demographics when thinking about a school. Are you white?

My child left Churchill for Bullis. Bullis had way more diversity than Churchill. Bullis had foreign exchange students as well as a variety of racial groups. Bullis offered transportation throughout the DMV and scholarships which added to the socioeconomic diversity within the school. It was the first time my child attended school with peers who didn’t live in Potomac.

Diversity in a school adds to the educational experience. Students bring to class discussions their unique experiences and perspective. Sharing these viewpoints adds to understanding and respect for one another.