Anonymous
Post 05/03/2022 10:51     Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Such a lengthy opinion when all they have to say is “because the Catholic Church is against abortion.”


+100000000

And more appalling that these were judges appointed by presidents who lost the popular vote.


We are no longer a functional representative democracy.



We were never a functional representative democracy. Since the founding of this country, we've been ruled by a wealthy minority -- a minority that tells us to what to think, what to say, what to do, what to eat, where to work, etc.
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2022 10:50     Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Pack the court already. JFC

With the two Republicans pretending to be Democrats Sinema and Manchin, how would you suggest doing this, precisely? With the entire goddan GOP off their effing rockers and unwilling to govern, how do you see this working out?


Oh? You think Congress won't change after this?
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2022 10:49     Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Surely both sides can agree that fewer unwanted pregnancies are good. Fewer unwanted pregnancies would result in fewer abortions (legally or otherwise)
So where is the action? What are the democrats in control of the executive branch and both chambers of congress going to do?
Maybe they can't get a fillibuster proof majority to make abortion federally legal, but here are some things they can do off the top of my head:
- Put a free condom dispenser in every post office in the land
- Provide birth control pills and Plan B pills for free at every hospital or urgent care center that accepts medicaire/medicaid payments.
- If appropriate (I'll defer to doctors on this one), make bcp and Plan B over the counter meds.
- Make the child tax credit qualifying date be nine months before a child's date of birth. (After all, the child in the womb is a child)
- Make every pregnant woman eligible for SSI disability, in addition to any income they may have
- When every 18 year old boy registers for the draft, make them aslo sign a form saying that they understand that they are responsible for 50% of the costs of a child from the moment of conception, to include any obstetrics care.


The dmeocrats need a bunch of GOP (freedom and liberty, right) Senators to join them, and right now, they aren't, so ya, its all the democrats fault.


Finally proven that the two parties are not remotely the same, the both sides brigade has rolled into holding the Democrats responsible for the sins of the GOP.
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2022 10:49     Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Pack the court already. JFC

With the two Republicans pretending to be Democrats Sinema and Manchin, how would you suggest doing this, precisely? With the entire goddan GOP off their effing rockers and unwilling to govern, how do you see this working out?
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2022 10:47     Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Surely both sides can agree that fewer unwanted pregnancies are good. Fewer unwanted pregnancies would result in fewer abortions (legally or otherwise)
So where is the action? What are the democrats in control of the executive branch and both chambers of congress going to do?
Maybe they can't get a fillibuster proof majority to make abortion federally legal, but here are some things they can do off the top of my head:
- Put a free condom dispenser in every post office in the land
- Provide birth control pills and Plan B pills for free at every hospital or urgent care center that accepts medicaire/medicaid payments.
- If appropriate (I'll defer to doctors on this one), make bcp and Plan B over the counter meds.
- Make the child tax credit qualifying date be nine months before a child's date of birth. (After all, the child in the womb is a child)
- Make every pregnant woman eligible for SSI disability, in addition to any income they may have
- When every 18 year old boy registers for the draft, make them aslo sign a form saying that they understand that they are responsible for 50% of the costs of a child from the moment of conception, to include any obstetrics care.


The dmeocrats need a bunch of GOP (freedom and liberty, right) Senators to join them, and right now, they aren't, so ya, its all the democrats fault.

Anonymous
Post 05/03/2022 10:47     Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Surely both sides can agree that fewer unwanted pregnancies are good. Fewer unwanted pregnancies would result in fewer abortions (legally or otherwise)
So where is the action? What are the democrats in control of the executive branch and both chambers of congress going to do?
Maybe they can't get a fillibuster proof majority to make abortion federally legal, but here are some things they can do off the top of my head:
- Put a free condom dispenser in every post office in the land
- Provide birth control pills and Plan B pills for free at every hospital or urgent care center that accepts medicaire/medicaid payments.
- If appropriate (I'll defer to doctors on this one), make bcp and Plan B over the counter meds.
- Make the child tax credit qualifying date be nine months before a child's date of birth. (After all, the child in the womb is a child)
- Make every pregnant woman eligible for SSI disability, in addition to any income they may have
- When every 18 year old boy registers for the draft, make them aslo sign a form saying that they understand that they are responsible for 50% of the costs of a child from the moment of conception, to include any obstetrics care.


The ruling says states can do whatever they want, and most of the antiabortion states don’t care about any of that. A bunch of them would not even accept free money to expand Medicaid coverage.
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2022 10:46     Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Pack the court already. JFC
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2022 10:45     Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Surely both sides can agree that fewer unwanted pregnancies are good. Fewer unwanted pregnancies would result in fewer abortions (legally or otherwise)
So where is the action? What are the democrats in control of the executive branch and both chambers of congress going to do?
Maybe they can't get a fillibuster proof majority to make abortion federally legal, but here are some things they can do off the top of my head:
- Put a free condom dispenser in every post office in the land
- Provide birth control pills and Plan B pills for free at every hospital or urgent care center that accepts medicaire/medicaid payments.
- If appropriate (I'll defer to doctors on this one), make bcp and Plan B over the counter meds.
- Make the child tax credit qualifying date be nine months before a child's date of birth. (After all, the child in the womb is a child)
- Make every pregnant woman eligible for SSI disability, in addition to any income they may have
- When every 18 year old boy registers for the draft, make them aslo sign a form saying that they understand that they are responsible for 50% of the costs of a child from the moment of conception, to include any obstetrics care.


You assume the GOP is acting in good faith. They DGAF about any of that. They will oppose it simply to “own the libs”.
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2022 10:45     Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Surely both sides can agree that fewer unwanted pregnancies are good. Fewer unwanted pregnancies would result in fewer abortions (legally or otherwise)
So where is the action? What are the democrats in control of the executive branch and both chambers of congress going to do?
Maybe they can't get a fillibuster proof majority to make abortion federally legal, but here are some things they can do off the top of my head:
- Put a free condom dispenser in every post office in the land
- Provide birth control pills and Plan B pills for free at every hospital or urgent care center that accepts medicaire/medicaid payments.
- If appropriate (I'll defer to doctors on this one), make bcp and Plan B over the counter meds.
- Make the child tax credit qualifying date be nine months before a child's date of birth. (After all, the child in the womb is a child)
- Make every pregnant woman eligible for SSI disability, in addition to any income they may have
- When every 18 year old boy registers for the draft, make them aslo sign a form saying that they understand that they are responsible for 50% of the costs of a child from the moment of conception, to include any obstetrics care.


...And you think this is helpful somehow?


Well if the option is Congress doing *NOTHING* which is what they seem to be doing now, yes - having the executive branch do *SOMETHING* is helpful.
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2022 10:44     Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
The “it isn’t a right unless the recognition of the right is deeply rooted in history” nonsense comes from a 1997 SCOTUS decision against a right to physician-assisted suicide. It was a throw-away line that wasn’t necessary for the ruling, but Alito has argued to apply this stupid phrase as a broad standard to other rights in dissents since then. The phrase itself is not deeply rooted in history so it is self-refuting as a standard.
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2022 10:43     Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Surely both sides can agree that fewer unwanted pregnancies are good. Fewer unwanted pregnancies would result in fewer abortions (legally or otherwise)
So where is the action? What are the democrats in control of the executive branch and both chambers of congress going to do?
Maybe they can't get a fillibuster proof majority to make abortion federally legal, but here are some things they can do off the top of my head:
- Put a free condom dispenser in every post office in the land
- Provide birth control pills and Plan B pills for free at every hospital or urgent care center that accepts medicaire/medicaid payments.
- If appropriate (I'll defer to doctors on this one), make bcp and Plan B over the counter meds.
- Make the child tax credit qualifying date be nine months before a child's date of birth. (After all, the child in the womb is a child)
- Make every pregnant woman eligible for SSI disability, in addition to any income they may have
- When every 18 year old boy registers for the draft, make them aslo sign a form saying that they understand that they are responsible for 50% of the costs of a child from the moment of conception, to include any obstetrics care.


Bandaids.
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2022 10:42     Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Surely both sides can agree that fewer unwanted pregnancies are good. Fewer unwanted pregnancies would result in fewer abortions (legally or otherwise)
So where is the action? What are the democrats in control of the executive branch and both chambers of congress going to do?
Maybe they can't get a fillibuster proof majority to make abortion federally legal, but here are some things they can do off the top of my head:
- Put a free condom dispenser in every post office in the land
- Provide birth control pills and Plan B pills for free at every hospital or urgent care center that accepts medicaire/medicaid payments.
- If appropriate (I'll defer to doctors on this one), make bcp and Plan B over the counter meds.
- Make the child tax credit qualifying date be nine months before a child's date of birth. (After all, the child in the womb is a child)
- Make every pregnant woman eligible for SSI disability, in addition to any income they may have
- When every 18 year old boy registers for the draft, make them aslo sign a form saying that they understand that they are responsible for 50% of the costs of a child from the moment of conception, to include any obstetrics care.


...And you think this is helpful somehow?
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2022 10:40     Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


This does nothing for me. Impeachment not protest.


They were right.
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2022 10:39     Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Surely both sides can agree that fewer unwanted pregnancies are good. Fewer unwanted pregnancies would result in fewer abortions (legally or otherwise)
So where is the action? What are the democrats in control of the executive branch and both chambers of congress going to do?
Maybe they can't get a fillibuster proof majority to make abortion federally legal, but here are some things they can do off the top of my head:
- Put a free condom dispenser in every post office in the land
- Provide birth control pills and Plan B pills for free at every hospital or urgent care center that accepts medicaire/medicaid payments.
- If appropriate (I'll defer to doctors on this one), make bcp and Plan B over the counter meds.
- Make the child tax credit qualifying date be nine months before a child's date of birth. (After all, the child in the womb is a child)
- Make every pregnant woman eligible for SSI disability, in addition to any income they may have
- When every 18 year old boy registers for the draft, make them aslo sign a form saying that they understand that they are responsible for 50% of the costs of a child from the moment of conception, to include any obstetrics care.
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2022 10:39     Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So Alito wants to bring back maternity homes where unwed teens are forced to give birth and then their healthy white babies will be redistributed to “good” families. You know, since he cited the increased desire for adoption as part of the reasoning that unwinding this decision wouldn’t place an undue burden on women by forcing them to maintain pregnancy and give birth against their wishes. We’re nothing more than vessels/incubators to him. Not actually humans, with equal rights under the law to have control of our own bodies and health. This would never be an issue if men were the ones who became pregnant. Never.



I've said it before and I'll say it again. If you want to force birth then you also should be champing full health care for pregnant women as well as at least 6 weeks paid maternity leave. Who goes up further and demand reasonable rates of child care so people can actually go back to work. You know and not be a drain on society that they all hate


The anti-abortionists would have to actually care about women and babies after they are born for that to happen. They do not, as we've seen time and again in the political agenda they promote and their demonizing of "welfare mothers." Hell, they don't even really care about things like prenatal health. Would they support payments to mothers who are forced to go on bed rest so they don't miscarry? No. Do they support environmental laws that keep pollution down, knowing that pollution is connected to higher miscarriage rates? No, they do not. They care about abstract embryos, not real human beings.


YUP. And also, don't forget that these are the same people who are against educating teens about birth control, offering access to birth control, and offering a safety net for the poor (welfare). If you look at the big picture of these anti-abortion lawmakers' policies, t is beyond twisted:
- Deny birth control access, force women to have unwanted babies, deny prenatal care, deny welfare, oppose minimum wage increases, defund mental health care.

It really makes you question, what their true motive in all this could possibly be.


These same zealots also want to ban birth control. We are regressing to "pregnant in the winter and barefoot in the summer."