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Anonymous

04/15/2022 11:13 Subject: U.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts on Friday called for a response from a Virginia school

With any luck, we'd have racists who can only practice their racism in private matters and can't implement racist policies in public institutions - a good place.

Anonymous

04/15/2022 11:13 Subject: U.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts on Friday called for a response from a Virginia school

You have failed at every turn here, both in defining the situation and in defining the appropriateness of solving it. But I'll play your game, if only because it's satisfying to defeat you on your own illegitimate turf.

Black and Hispanic families in the Northern Virginia area are significantly less wealthy by every reasonable measure than white and Asian families, and ESPECIALLY those white and Asian families who historically attend TJ. This is not up for debate.

Standardized exams of all types significantly favor those families with the resources to prepare for those exams - this isn't up for debate either. And it becomes even MORE the case when the school system chooses a secured exam that isn't supposed to have any available resources for prep - in that case, expensive prep with privileged access becomes even MORE valuable.

Therefore, engaging in an admissions process that uses relative (importantly, not absolute, but relative) performance on a standardized exam both as a gatekeeper for eligibility (as was the case in the semifinalist process) and for eventual selection (as evidenced by the huge delta in semifinalist scores and offered scores) is pretty explicitly racist.

You're done. Go home.

Anonymous

04/15/2022 11:10 Subject: U.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts on Friday called for a response from a Virginia school

No, Most people will be on board with diversity. But, the issue is how fcps approached and implemented the problem. It was shady and shutdown any public dialog. There were objections/comments with in the board itself. Take for example, they knowingly undermined AAP by implementing quotas based on attending schools instead of base schools. They deliberately flattened out GPA (or unweighted), which actually makes it a disadvantage for kids who takes tougher courses. In addition, the cumulative GPA of 1.25 years worth of course work given same points as one single essay kids write in 30min. If this is not enough, they then played with bonus points (a.k.a 'other experience' (??) factors) to figure how many points needs to be added to get the 'desired' effect.

It felt like intent wasn't really to cut down all of asians. It was only to hurt specific group of kids who come from academic focused families, likely in AAP, focus on courses/grades etc and guess what asians represent a significant percent of this group.

I don't mind removing test that can be prepped or not giving any weight to cookie cutter or expensive extra curricular activities that only certain kids can take advantage of. Diversity is good, but do not make deliberate changes to undermine/hurt specific groups of population. This is what makes it annoying and frustrating. All they need to do is remove the weightage to any factors that are not available to all the kids and then do a fair evaluation on top of that.

Anonymous

04/15/2022 11:07 Subject: U.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts on Friday called for a response from a Virginia school

Go back and read it. If you dont understand, dont worry about it.

Your single sentence with a question mark response to things you dont agree with is predictable and boring. Try something else.

Anonymous

04/15/2022 11:03 Subject: U.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts on Friday called for a response from a Virginia school

And what was your point?

Anonymous

04/15/2022 11:02 Subject: U.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts on Friday called for a response from a Virginia school

Yes. So where does that leave us?

Anonymous

04/15/2022 10:58 Subject: U.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts on Friday called for a response from a Virginia school

You have just proven my point. Thank you. I am not speaking you and your ilk. You represent everything that is wrong with the situation we find ourselves in. For the record, my family and I have nothing to gain or lose at a personal level as this issue plays out.

Anonymous

04/15/2022 10:54 Subject: U.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts on Friday called for a response from a Virginia school

Cool, now get the Board and, more importantly, local voters to agree. Your solution really is genius, I think you should start publicizing it widely- no racism because pointing out racism is in itself racist

Anonymous

04/15/2022 10:52 Subject: U.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts on Friday called for a response from a Virginia school

That's not what I said. If you can tie the lack of black kids at a school to explicitly racist policies, such as affirmative action, or facially neutral policies implemented with racist intent, like the new TJ admission policies, then we can absolutely work together to remove those barriers to black kids. Absent such evidence, it's improper to identify racial disparity as a "problem" that needs solving.

Anonymous

04/15/2022 10:48 Subject: U.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts on Friday called for a response from a Virginia school

I'm going to translate these two paragraphs for you:

1. You need to set reasonable timelines so that either my child isn't affected or so that I have enough time as a parent to adjust my strategy to maximize my child's chances to be viewed favorably by the admissions committee.

2. I'm going to pretend as though a different process that still impacted my family's chances at admission wouldn't make me angry enough to spew vile hatred on these boards. I don't like the fact that trying to create legitimate racial diversity through race-neutral processes has been legitimized by the Supreme Court for decades - AND that it's been shown to be better for the educational environment by countless peer-reviewed academic studies - and so I'm going to pretend it's a huge problem that FCPS was open about saying that it's not okay that there haven't been hardly any Black kids at TJ.

Anonymous

04/15/2022 10:37 Subject: U.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts on Friday called for a response from a Virginia school

You've solved the problems. No black kids at a school isn't an issue if mentioning that there are no black kids at the school is racist. Congratulations.

Anonymous

04/15/2022 10:37 Subject: U.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts on Friday called for a response from a Virginia school

Absolutely, you need action. You need to set reasonable timelines (2 years may be) and reach out to all impacted folks. Given the amount of discussion this "Change" has triggered (including on this board) and the fact that the Supreme Court has taken notice - the inadequacy of the process that Braband and his political cronies conducted is in full view.

Instead of running models that showed racial yields, they could have run models on how schools like Mclean would have been impacted. They could have addressed all of this one go to make change palatable to the impacted parties. You would never get everyone on board but you would show you care. The school board leveraged their 12-0 mandate to take a shot at political glory. And are now entrenched in their position because their careers are on the line and even a minor concession will likely be against their legal strategy. All of us eff-up at work sometimes. I have greater respect for those that own up to it and move on. Not this school board.

Anonymous

04/15/2022 10:34 Subject: U.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts on Friday called for a response from a Virginia school

in other words, you don't

Anonymous

04/15/2022 10:34 Subject: U.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts on Friday called for a response from a Virginia school

In other words, you are either unable to or unwilling to even define diversity except in a racist way, and would rather that a school close down than have it not be involved in implementing your desired racist policies.

Anonymous

04/15/2022 10:34 Subject: U.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts on Friday called for a response from a Virginia school

Type google and then type Virginia governor's schools. That was easy.