Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
You taught DC integrity which is valuable. Also,. I'm still hoping they investigated everyone who ticked off these boxes and disqualified anyone who lied.

It was not a lie. To answer no was the real lie, since everyone was eligible for free meals. People asked the admissions office and were told they could answer yes. To disqualify someone for answering correctly is unethical. They could maybe investigate and take away the bonus points.

We all know what the questions meant.

Very unethical to misrepresent your family situation.

I guess some people will try to rationalize their bad behavior.

“We all knew” ?

What we did not know was the confidential scoring rubric the SB kept hidden from parents: 1/4 of TJ admissions is based on actual math talent. 1/4 is based on GPA and 50% of the application is based on non academic criteria.

Fact is, the SB severely diminished academics in how they select for TJ.

The purely democrat SB is not alone in watering-down academics in Virginia, diminishing our school system, short-changing our children’s future, and making US ultimately less competitive in the world.

I'll take the Ds who actually want to educate our kids - ALL of our kids. Not just the ones who can manage to get spots at charter schools/private schools (vouchers).

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
You taught DC integrity which is valuable. Also,. I'm still hoping they investigated everyone who ticked off these boxes and disqualified anyone who lied.

It was not a lie. To answer no was the real lie, since everyone was eligible for free meals. People asked the admissions office and were told they could answer yes. To disqualify someone for answering correctly is unethical. They could maybe investigate and take away the bonus points.

We all know what the questions meant.

Very unethical to misrepresent your family situation.

I guess some people will try to rationalize their bad behavior.

“We all knew” ?

What we did not know was the confidential scoring rubric the SB kept hidden from parents: 1/4 of TJ admissions is based on actual math talent. 1/4 is based on GPA and 50% of the application is based on non academic criteria.

Fact is, the SB severely diminished academics in how they select for TJ.

The purely democrat SB is not alone in watering-down academics in Virginia, diminishing our school system, short-changing our children’s future, and making US ultimately less competitive in the world.

^ some even encourage it

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Anonymous wrote:Turns out that “low income” didn’t really add that many points.

The cheaters must be disappointed.

Is there any evidence that people cheating or is this like Trump's self-serving claims of voter fraud?

People on DCUM have admitted to it.

Anonymous wrote:Turns out that “low income” didn’t really add that many points.

The cheaters must be disappointed.

Is there any evidence that people cheating or is this like Trump's self-serving claims of voter fraud?

Turns out that “low income” didn’t really add that many points.

The cheaters must be disappointed.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
You taught DC integrity which is valuable. Also,. I'm still hoping they investigated everyone who ticked off these boxes and disqualified anyone who lied.

It was not a lie. To answer no was the real lie, since everyone was eligible for free meals. People asked the admissions office and were told they could answer yes. To disqualify someone for answering correctly is unethical. They could maybe investigate and take away the bonus points.

We all know what the questions meant.

Very unethical to misrepresent your family situation.

I guess some people will try to rationalize their bad behavior.

But it wouldn't have matter if you did since their automated software would simply look up whether you were eligible for this in their database. I can't believe these pro-privlege parents are still pushing this conspiracy.

What database? They didn't collect FARMS info during the pandemic, and they can't use historical information since it's unreliable. Here's an example: Say a family had an income of $55,000, making them poor but not poor enough to be FARMS. The supposed database would show them as not FARMS for 2019 and earlier. At the start of the pandemic, one of them loses their job (which was not uncommon during the pandemic) and their income plummets to $30,000. You're saying that they should be viewed as fraudulently answering "yes" to the meals questions, since the supposed database would show that they're not FARMS?

PP - ignore the troll. She is the fountainhead of disinformation on the TJ admissions process. Likely paid by interested parties to derail any discussion that sways off the sanctioned narrative.

Do not indulge her. She has nothing new to contribute to any discussion but the same old discredited claim that FCPS has IRS data on families. Just ignore

The people processing the applications have access to all student data including their FARMS status so the question was even necessary for 99% of applicants. Sure, they may need it for people from out of state or private.

TROLL FAIL.

This is what happened

1. They may have 2019 and earlier info for FCPS families, but they wouldn't have that data for APS, LCPS, or other non-FCPS families. If every single kid who attends a prep center were instructed to check 'yes' to those questions, then they're counting 90-100 UMC LCPS kids as low income. FCPS doesn't care, though, as long as they can get a good press release.

2. They didn't collect income data during the pandemic, since families previously above the income cutoff may have had a loss of income or a loss of jobs from the pandemic. This unfortunately makes a very large, exploitable loophole for UMC families. Undoubtedly, the free meals question allowed some portion of mediocre, higher SES kids to leapfrog the highly gifted ones at the "TJ Feeder" Centers. If every applicant has nearly a 4.0 and decent essays, the free points for checking the ED boxes would make a huge difference.

3. There surely are some low income kids who are well qualified for TJ. The kids who are well qualified for TJ don't need a substantial number of bonus points allocated to them, especially since every MS has a 1.5% allocation. Giving them the extra points is akin to saying that they aren't qualified enough to be picked on their own merits.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
You taught DC integrity which is valuable. Also,. I'm still hoping they investigated everyone who ticked off these boxes and disqualified anyone who lied.

It was not a lie. To answer no was the real lie, since everyone was eligible for free meals. People asked the admissions office and were told they could answer yes. To disqualify someone for answering correctly is unethical. They could maybe investigate and take away the bonus points.

We all know what the questions meant.

Very unethical to misrepresent your family situation.

I guess some people will try to rationalize their bad behavior.

But it wouldn't have matter if you did since their automated software would simply look up whether you were eligible for this in their database. I can't believe these pro-privlege parents are still pushing this conspiracy.

What database? They didn't collect FARMS info during the pandemic, and they can't use historical information since it's unreliable. Here's an example: Say a family had an income of $55,000, making them poor but not poor enough to be FARMS. The supposed database would show them as not FARMS for 2019 and earlier. At the start of the pandemic, one of them loses their job (which was not uncommon during the pandemic) and their income plummets to $30,000. You're saying that they should be viewed as fraudulently answering "yes" to the meals questions, since the supposed database would show that they're not FARMS?

PP - ignore the troll. She is the fountainhead of disinformation on the TJ admissions process. Likely paid by interested parties to derail any discussion that sways off the sanctioned narrative.

Do not indulge her. She has nothing new to contribute to any discussion but the same old discredited claim that FCPS has IRS data on families. Just ignore

The people processing the applications have access to all student data including their FARMS status so the question was even necessary for 99% of applicants. Sure, they may need it for people from out of state or private.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
You taught DC integrity which is valuable. Also,. I'm still hoping they investigated everyone who ticked off these boxes and disqualified anyone who lied.

It was not a lie. To answer no was the real lie, since everyone was eligible for free meals. People asked the admissions office and were told they could answer yes. To disqualify someone for answering correctly is unethical. They could maybe investigate and take away the bonus points.

We all know what the questions meant.

Very unethical to misrepresent your family situation.

I guess some people will try to rationalize their bad behavior.

But it wouldn't have matter if you did since their automated software would simply look up whether you were eligible for this in their database. I can't believe these pro-privlege parents are still pushing this conspiracy.

What database? They didn't collect FARMS info during the pandemic, and they can't use historical information since it's unreliable. Here's an example: Say a family had an income of $55,000, making them poor but not poor enough to be FARMS. The supposed database would show them as not FARMS for 2019 and earlier. At the start of the pandemic, one of them loses their job (which was not uncommon during the pandemic) and their income plummets to $30,000. You're saying that they should be viewed as fraudulently answering "yes" to the meals questions, since the supposed database would show that they're not FARMS?

PP - ignore the troll. She is the fountainhead of disinformation on the TJ admissions process. Likely paid by interested parties to derail any discussion that sways off the sanctioned narrative.

Do not indulge her. She has nothing new to contribute to any discussion but the same old discredited claim that FCPS has IRS data on families. Just ignore

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
You taught DC integrity which is valuable. Also,. I'm still hoping they investigated everyone who ticked off these boxes and disqualified anyone who lied.

It was not a lie. To answer no was the real lie, since everyone was eligible for free meals. People asked the admissions office and were told they could answer yes. To disqualify someone for answering correctly is unethical. They could maybe investigate and take away the bonus points.

We all know what the questions meant.

Very unethical to misrepresent your family situation.

I guess some people will try to rationalize their bad behavior.

But it wouldn't have matter if you did since their automated software would simply look up whether you were eligible for this in their database. I can't believe these pro-privlege parents are still pushing this conspiracy.

What database? They didn't collect FARMS info during the pandemic, and they can't use historical information since it's unreliable. Here's an example: Say a family had an income of $55,000, making them poor but not poor enough to be FARMS. The supposed database would show them as not FARMS for 2019 and earlier. At the start of the pandemic, one of them loses their job (which was not uncommon during the pandemic) and their income plummets to $30,000. You're saying that they should be viewed as fraudulently answering "yes" to the meals questions, since the supposed database would show that they're not FARMS?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
You taught DC integrity which is valuable. Also,. I'm still hoping they investigated everyone who ticked off these boxes and disqualified anyone who lied.

It was not a lie. To answer no was the real lie, since everyone was eligible for free meals. People asked the admissions office and were told they could answer yes. To disqualify someone for answering correctly is unethical. They could maybe investigate and take away the bonus points.

We all know what the questions meant.

Very unethical to misrepresent your family situation.

I guess some people will try to rationalize their bad behavior.

But it wouldn't have matter if you did since their automated software would simply look up whether you were eligible for this in their database. I can't believe these pro-privlege parents are still pushing this conspiracy.

Where are you getting this information? Have you verified this? Income status was self-reported via the free meals questions and to my knowledge was not verified. If you can prove otherwise, please do. It was a gross loophole that the testing centers got wind of.

Every time this poster pushes this ludicrous theory that FCPS has access to IRS records - we should post the summary below. This Trumpian poster believes that repeating a lie will somehow make it the truth

This is what happened

1. They may have 2019 and earlier info for FCPS families, but they wouldn't have that data for APS, LCPS, or other non-FCPS families. If every single kid who attends a prep center were instructed to check 'yes' to those questions, then they're counting 90-100 UMC LCPS kids as low income. FCPS doesn't care, though, as long as they can get a good press release.

2. They didn't collect income data during the pandemic, since families previously above the income cutoff may have had a loss of income or a loss of jobs from the pandemic. This unfortunately makes a very large, exploitable loophole for UMC families. Undoubtedly, the free meals question allowed some portion of mediocre, higher SES kids to leapfrog the highly gifted ones at the "TJ Feeder" Centers. If every applicant has nearly a 4.0 and decent essays, the free points for checking the ED boxes would make a huge difference.

3. There surely are some low income kids who are well qualified for TJ. The kids who are well qualified for TJ don't need a substantial number of bonus points allocated to them, especially since every MS has a 1.5% allocation. Giving them the extra points is akin to saying that they aren't qualified enough to be picked on their own merits.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
You taught DC integrity which is valuable. Also,. I'm still hoping they investigated everyone who ticked off these boxes and disqualified anyone who lied.

It was not a lie. To answer no was the real lie, since everyone was eligible for free meals. People asked the admissions office and were told they could answer yes. To disqualify someone for answering correctly is unethical. They could maybe investigate and take away the bonus points.

We all know what the questions meant.

Very unethical to misrepresent your family situation.

I guess some people will try to rationalize their bad behavior.

But it wouldn't have matter if you did since their automated software would simply look up whether you were eligible for this in their database. I can't believe these pro-privlege parents are still pushing this conspiracy.

Where are you getting this information? Have you verified this? Income status was self-reported via the free meals questions and to my knowledge was not verified. If you can prove otherwise, please do. It was a gross loophole that the testing centers got wind of.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
You taught DC integrity which is valuable. Also,. I'm still hoping they investigated everyone who ticked off these boxes and disqualified anyone who lied.

It was not a lie. To answer no was the real lie, since everyone was eligible for free meals. People asked the admissions office and were told they could answer yes. To disqualify someone for answering correctly is unethical. They could maybe investigate and take away the bonus points.

We all know what the questions meant.

Very unethical to misrepresent your family situation.

I guess some people will try to rationalize their bad behavior.

But it wouldn't have matter if you did since their automated software would simply look up whether you were eligible for this in their database. I can't believe these pro-privlege parents are still pushing this conspiracy.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
You taught DC integrity which is valuable. Also,. I'm still hoping they investigated everyone who ticked off these boxes and disqualified anyone who lied.

It was not a lie. To answer no was the real lie, since everyone was eligible for free meals. People asked the admissions office and were told they could answer yes. To disqualify someone for answering correctly is unethical. They could maybe investigate and take away the bonus points.

We all know what the questions meant.

Very unethical to misrepresent your family situation.

I guess some people will try to rationalize their bad behavior.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
You taught DC integrity which is valuable. Also,. I'm still hoping they investigated everyone who ticked off these boxes and disqualified anyone who lied.

It was not a lie. To answer no was the real lie, since everyone was eligible for free meals. People asked the admissions office and were told they could answer yes. To disqualify someone for answering correctly is unethical. They could maybe investigate and take away the bonus points.

This is what happened

1. They may have 2019 and earlier info for FCPS families, but they wouldn't have that data for APS, LCPS, or other non-FCPS families. If every single kid who attends a prep center were instructed to check 'yes' to those questions, then they're counting 90-100 UMC LCPS kids as low income. FCPS doesn't care, though, as long as they can get a good press release.

2. They didn't collect income data during the pandemic, since families previously above the income cutoff may have had a loss of income or a loss of jobs from the pandemic. This unfortunately makes a very large, exploitable loophole for UMC families. Undoubtedly, the free meals question allowed some portion of mediocre, higher SES kids to leapfrog the highly gifted ones at the "TJ Feeder" Centers. If every applicant has nearly a 4.0 and decent essays, the free points for checking the ED boxes would make a huge difference.

3. There surely are some low income kids who are well qualified for TJ. The kids who are well qualified for TJ don't need a substantial number of bonus points allocated to them, especially since every MS has a 1.5% allocation. Giving them the extra points is akin to saying that they aren't qualified enough to be picked on their own merits.