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Anonymous wrote:I find it ironic that Chinese media is apparently highly critical of US-born, US citizen Nathan Chen skating for the US; yet the US media treats US-born, (maybe?) US citizen Eileen Gu like some type of national hero for skating for China.

Well, Chen said the "U" word and so he is persona non grata.

what is the u word?

Uyghur

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Anonymous wrote:I find it ironic that Chinese media is apparently highly critical of US-born, US citizen Nathan Chen skating for the US; yet the US media treats US-born, (maybe?) US citizen Eileen Gu like some type of national hero for skating for China.

Well, Chen said the "U" word and so he is persona non grata.

what is the u word?

Why are there so man ads for medicine that treats heart failure (entestro) during the Winter Olympics coverage?love the beautiful beach/ rocky arches scenes at the end but do they think we risk heart failure after these Olympics filled with doping young teens, international intrigue, threats of unprovoked war by major competitor ? Or do only old people watch the Winter Olympics?

Apropos Katia Gordeeva - and only because this is an entertainment forum - she’s probably the only woman in history who has married THREE different Olympic champions. Kudos!

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Anonymous wrote:If the US could look the other way while Tanith Belbin's citizenship application was fast-walked through the process so that she could represent the US at the Olympics, China can look the other way with Gu as well.

DP. I'm not criticizing China for using Gu. Why wouldn't they use that opportunity? I criticize China for genocide and other human rights abuses, and I criticize Gu for being a tool in China's PR effort to whitewash that fact.

You say this like a country cannot be brutal AND excellent in sports. The two are unrelated.

OK, but why do we have to support an American voluntarily being part of their PR machine?

Would it be “Russian PR” to say that Michael Baryshnikov is one of the greatest ballet dancers of all time, and that he is a consummate and genius artist?

Would it be “Italian PR” to say that Michelangelo was a god-like sculptor?

Is it “American PR” to say that Meryl Streep is the greatest screen actress of all time?

You just sound stupid, honestly.

I'm sorry, but you don't seem to understand how regimes like China use propaganda. I really wouldn't go around telling other people they sound stupid.

So you don’t think Tchaikovsky was a great composer, or Barishnikov was a great dancer. Because to praise their talent and seek to learn from their techniques or culture would make you part of a Russian propaganda machine. Got it.

Gordeeva and Grinkov—better tell our pairs’ teams to never watch their tapes! Seems like a good strategy.

I’m thinking you don’t really understand the concept of propaganda.

Man these games are dark. Drugging 15 year olds, nationalist bickering, athletes for sale to the highest bidder. It makes snowpiercer look cheery.

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Anonymous wrote:If the US could look the other way while Tanith Belbin's citizenship application was fast-walked through the process so that she could represent the US at the Olympics, China can look the other way with Gu as well.

DP. I'm not criticizing China for using Gu. Why wouldn't they use that opportunity? I criticize China for genocide and other human rights abuses, and I criticize Gu for being a tool in China's PR effort to whitewash that fact.

You say this like a country cannot be brutal AND excellent in sports. The two are unrelated.

OK, but why do we have to support an American voluntarily being part of their PR machine?

Would it be “Russian PR” to say that Michael Baryshnikov is one of the greatest ballet dancers of all time, and that he is a consummate and genius artist?

Would it be “Italian PR” to say that Michelangelo was a god-like sculptor?

Is it “American PR” to say that Meryl Streep is the greatest screen actress of all time?

You just sound stupid, honestly.

I'm sorry, but you don't seem to understand how regimes like China use propaganda. I really wouldn't go around telling other people they sound stupid.

So you don’t think Tchaikovsky was a great composer, or Barishnikov was a great dancer. Because to praise their talent and seek to learn from their techniques or culture would make you part of a Russian propaganda machine. Got it.

Gordeeva and Grinkov—better tell our pairs’ teams to never watch their tapes! Seems like a good strategy.

Oh, were Tchaikovsky and G and G American citizens that decided to represent Russia instead? That IS a propaganda coup!

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Anonymous wrote:I find it ironic that Chinese media is apparently highly critical of US-born, US citizen Nathan Chen skating for the US; yet the US media treats US-born, (maybe?) US citizen Eileen Gu like some type of national hero for skating for China.

Well, Chen said the "U" word and so he is persona non grata.

He doesn’t seem to care one lick what Chinese media has to say about him. He doesn’t love the anti-Asian hatred in America. Otherwise, he is proud to be Chinese-American.

Yes, good for him.

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Anonymous wrote:If the US could look the other way while Tanith Belbin's citizenship application was fast-walked through the process so that she could represent the US at the Olympics, China can look the other way with Gu as well.

DP. I'm not criticizing China for using Gu. Why wouldn't they use that opportunity? I criticize China for genocide and other human rights abuses, and I criticize Gu for being a tool in China's PR effort to whitewash that fact.

You say this like a country cannot be brutal AND excellent in sports. The two are unrelated.

OK, but why do we have to support an American voluntarily being part of their PR machine?

Would it be “Russian PR” to say that Michael Baryshnikov is one of the greatest ballet dancers of all time, and that he is a consummate and genius artist?

Would it be “Italian PR” to say that Michelangelo was a god-like sculptor?

Is it “American PR” to say that Meryl Streep is the greatest screen actress of all time?

You just sound stupid, honestly.

I'm sorry, but you don't seem to understand how regimes like China use propaganda. I really wouldn't go around telling other people they sound stupid.

So you don’t think Tchaikovsky was a great composer, or Barishnikov was a great dancer. Because to praise their talent and seek to learn from their techniques or culture would make you part of a Russian propaganda machine. Got it.

Gordeeva and Grinkov—better tell our pairs’ teams to never watch their tapes! Seems like a good strategy.

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Anonymous wrote:If the US could look the other way while Tanith Belbin's citizenship application was fast-walked through the process so that she could represent the US at the Olympics, China can look the other way with Gu as well.

DP. I'm not criticizing China for using Gu. Why wouldn't they use that opportunity? I criticize China for genocide and other human rights abuses, and I criticize Gu for being a tool in China's PR effort to whitewash that fact.

You say this like a country cannot be brutal AND excellent in sports. The two are unrelated.

OK, but why do we have to support an American voluntarily being part of their PR machine?

Would it be “Russian PR” to say that Michael Baryshnikov is one of the greatest ballet dancers of all time, and that he is a consummate and genius artist?

Would it be “Italian PR” to say that Michelangelo was a god-like sculptor?

Is it “American PR” to say that Meryl Streep is the greatest screen actress of all time?

You just sound stupid, honestly.

I'm sorry, but you don't seem to understand how regimes like China use propaganda. I really wouldn't go around telling other people they sound stupid.

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Anonymous wrote:If the US could look the other way while Tanith Belbin's citizenship application was fast-walked through the process so that she could represent the US at the Olympics, China can look the other way with Gu as well.

DP. I'm not criticizing China for using Gu. Why wouldn't they use that opportunity? I criticize China for genocide and other human rights abuses, and I criticize Gu for being a tool in China's PR effort to whitewash that fact.

You say this like a country cannot be brutal AND excellent in sports. The two are unrelated.

PP, did you respond to the wrong post? It makes sense if you're commenting on the Russia/Johnny posts, but it doesn't relate to this comment on China and Gu.

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Anonymous wrote:I find it ironic that Chinese media is apparently highly critical of US-born, US citizen Nathan Chen skating for the US; yet the US media treats US-born, (maybe?) US citizen Eileen Gu like some type of national hero for skating for China.

Well, Chen said the "U" word and so he is persona non grata.

He doesn’t seem to care one lick what Chinese media has to say about him. He doesn’t love the anti-Asian hatred in America. Otherwise, he is proud to be Chinese-American.

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Oh honey. Did you miss this?
https://therecount.com/watch/tara-lipinski-and-johnny-weir/2645878492

It’s OK that you feel stupid now.

Way to go to make my point. Yeah, Johnny doesn't sound rehearsed at all.

He sounds like he has something to say, and said it in the most dramatic way possible. In other words, CLASSIC JOHNNY WEIR.

Sure, I hope it was *rehearsed*. He had a little over 30 seconds to make his point, and it's an important one. Everyone is looking to them for comment on this because they have the experience and inside knowledge, so of course he's going to make sure that his statement is well thought out and succinct and he doesn't ramble. Which it was and he didn't. So what's the problem here?

* in China that is.

Anonymous wrote:I find it ironic that Chinese media is apparently highly critical of US-born, US citizen Nathan Chen skating for the US; yet the US media treats US-born, (maybe?) US citizen Eileen Gu like some type of national hero for skating for China.

Well, Chen said the "U" word and so he is persona non grata.