Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I would really like to hear from a conservative opinion.
Technically it seems one has grounds to sue Florida to remove Bibles from schools based on Florida's own policy. The Bible has some scandalous references/descriptions.
I’ll offer a conservative opinion. These things are hard to legislate. Ideally they wouldn’t require legislation. I personally have no idea how some people are okay with books like “gender queer” with its images of sex acts being in public school libraries. But apparently they are. And it seems that parents have found the only way to keep them out is to go to their representatives and get laws passed. And these laws will overreach. Because there is a line between acceptable and unacceptable and it’s different for different families. I wish people who think their kids should read Gender Queer would just buy it for their kids and not defend its presence in school. I wish schools would err on the side of not having this material present when it is questionable. But that’s not how it works today. So we have laws instead of common sense and some of those laws go too far.
That’s not a “conservative” opinion, that’s a regressive and fascistic as the rest of your dumb party, you just tart it up with more words. Just to use your dumb example, what do you think “gender queer” means, precisely? What kind of illicit books do you think were being read in schools? Look at those book shelves above. You think all those empty or covered shelves were populated by “gender queer” books?
You guys are just seriously beyond stupid. A few years ago, around 2016/2017 when we started calling Republicans Nazis for their support of Trump, you all took great offense and noted what you perceived to be a lack of parallels with that noted fascist party. And here you are, calmly and articulately defending fascism.
You don’t seem capable of addressing my points. This has nothing to do with Trump. I never supported him and he’s irrelevant to parent objections to sexual images in school libraries.
Do you object to any sexual content or only if images, as a graphic novel would depict. So Judy Blume books are ok because they don't have pictures? But if someone made a graphic novel of "Forever" that wouldn't be ok?
What about a book shown in a sex ed class? That's not ok? Or even for a library to have a basics sex ed book?
DP. I object to porn in public school libraries. Is that not clear enough for you? Sex ed is not porn. Any other strawmen you'd like to discuss?
Got it. So books like Judy Blume's Forever that provide a story of first time sex for teens, books like Then Again Maybe I Won't or Deenie which describes young masturbation, are ok because they don't have pictures? There's no graphic novel version (yet)?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I would really like to hear from a conservative opinion.
Technically it seems one has grounds to sue Florida to remove Bibles from schools based on Florida's own policy. The Bible has some scandalous references/descriptions.
I’ll offer a conservative opinion. These things are hard to legislate. Ideally they wouldn’t require legislation. I personally have no idea how some people are okay with books like “gender queer” with its images of sex acts being in public school libraries. But apparently they are. And it seems that parents have found the only way to keep them out is to go to their representatives and get laws passed. And these laws will overreach. Because there is a line between acceptable and unacceptable and it’s different for different families. I wish people who think their kids should read Gender Queer would just buy it for their kids and not defend its presence in school. I wish schools would err on the side of not having this material present when it is questionable. But that’s not how it works today. So we have laws instead of common sense and some of those laws go too far.
That’s not a “conservative” opinion, that’s a regressive and fascistic as the rest of your dumb party, you just tart it up with more words. Just to use your dumb example, what do you think “gender queer” means, precisely? What kind of illicit books do you think were being read in schools? Look at those book shelves above. You think all those empty or covered shelves were populated by “gender queer” books?
You guys are just seriously beyond stupid. A few years ago, around 2016/2017 when we started calling Republicans Nazis for their support of Trump, you all took great offense and noted what you perceived to be a lack of parallels with that noted fascist party. And here you are, calmly and articulately defending fascism.
You don’t seem capable of addressing my points. This has nothing to do with Trump. I never supported him and he’s irrelevant to parent objections to sexual images in school libraries.
Do you object to any sexual content or only if images, as a graphic novel would depict. So Judy Blume books are ok because they don't have pictures? But if someone made a graphic novel of "Forever" that wouldn't be ok?
What about a book shown in a sex ed class? That's not ok? Or even for a library to have a basics sex ed book?
DP. I object to porn in public school libraries. Is that not clear enough for you? Sex ed is not porn. Any other strawmen you'd like to discuss?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I would really like to hear from a conservative opinion.
Technically it seems one has grounds to sue Florida to remove Bibles from schools based on Florida's own policy. The Bible has some scandalous references/descriptions.
I’ll offer a conservative opinion. These things are hard to legislate. Ideally they wouldn’t require legislation. I personally have no idea how some people are okay with books like “gender queer” with its images of sex acts being in public school libraries. But apparently they are. And it seems that parents have found the only way to keep them out is to go to their representatives and get laws passed. And these laws will overreach. Because there is a line between acceptable and unacceptable and it’s different for different families. I wish people who think their kids should read Gender Queer would just buy it for their kids and not defend its presence in school. I wish schools would err on the side of not having this material present when it is questionable. But that’s not how it works today. So we have laws instead of common sense and some of those laws go too far.
That’s not a “conservative” opinion, that’s a regressive and fascistic as the rest of your dumb party, you just tart it up with more words. Just to use your dumb example, what do you think “gender queer” means, precisely? What kind of illicit books do you think were being read in schools? Look at those book shelves above. You think all those empty or covered shelves were populated by “gender queer” books?
You guys are just seriously beyond stupid. A few years ago, around 2016/2017 when we started calling Republicans Nazis for their support of Trump, you all took great offense and noted what you perceived to be a lack of parallels with that noted fascist party. And here you are, calmly and articulately defending fascism.
DP. You're calling the PP (and others) "beyond stupid" when you aren't even bright enough to follow along with the PP's post? The point is that many parents feel the book, "Gender Queer," is sexually explicit (it is) and does not belong in public school libraries (it doesn't).
Of course those empty shelves weren't populated by books like "Gender Queer." Unfortunately, because people like you inexplicably disagree with common sense, there is now legislation that is grossly overreaching so that all books can be reviewed. This would be unnecessary if there was even a shred of common sense from the left, but there clearly is not. Simply removing "Gender Queer" from public school libraries would have been the obvious solution, but no. Apparently removing an obviously pornographic book from school shelves was just a bridge too far for liberals.
Not to fear though! You can still purchase this book (or check it out of the public library) and expose your own kids to pornography as much as you'd like.
Oh honey. You’re beyond help.
^^ The response of someone who has nothing intelligent to say.
Anonymous wrote:This is the official video from Duval Co Schools regarding classroom libraries. Every book in a classroom must be approved by a certified media specialist or the teacher can be charged with a felony.
ANY parent or "community member" can challenge a book and open up the offending teacher to possible criminal charges.
I'm sure this is just what the Framers intended when they wrote the 1st Amendment.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I would really like to hear from a conservative opinion.
Technically it seems one has grounds to sue Florida to remove Bibles from schools based on Florida's own policy. The Bible has some scandalous references/descriptions.
I’ll offer a conservative opinion. These things are hard to legislate. Ideally they wouldn’t require legislation. I personally have no idea how some people are okay with books like “gender queer” with its images of sex acts being in public school libraries. But apparently they are. And it seems that parents have found the only way to keep them out is to go to their representatives and get laws passed. And these laws will overreach. Because there is a line between acceptable and unacceptable and it’s different for different families. I wish people who think their kids should read Gender Queer would just buy it for their kids and not defend its presence in school. I wish schools would err on the side of not having this material present when it is questionable. But that’s not how it works today. So we have laws instead of common sense and some of those laws go too far.
Gender queer seems to be an easy call for republicans, what about Toni Morrison? Her books are being banned, but no one seems to want to articulate why
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I would really like to hear from a conservative opinion.
Technically it seems one has grounds to sue Florida to remove Bibles from schools based on Florida's own policy. The Bible has some scandalous references/descriptions.
I’ll offer a conservative opinion. These things are hard to legislate. Ideally they wouldn’t require legislation. I personally have no idea how some people are okay with books like “gender queer” with its images of sex acts being in public school libraries. But apparently they are. And it seems that parents have found the only way to keep them out is to go to their representatives and get laws passed. And these laws will overreach. Because there is a line between acceptable and unacceptable and it’s different for different families. I wish people who think their kids should read Gender Queer would just buy it for their kids and not defend its presence in school. I wish schools would err on the side of not having this material present when it is questionable. But that’s not how it works today. So we have laws instead of common sense and some of those laws go too far.
That’s not a “conservative” opinion, that’s a regressive and fascistic as the rest of your dumb party, you just tart it up with more words. Just to use your dumb example, what do you think “gender queer” means, precisely? What kind of illicit books do you think were being read in schools? Look at those book shelves above. You think all those empty or covered shelves were populated by “gender queer” books?
You guys are just seriously beyond stupid. A few years ago, around 2016/2017 when we started calling Republicans Nazis for their support of Trump, you all took great offense and noted what you perceived to be a lack of parallels with that noted fascist party. And here you are, calmly and articulately defending fascism.
You don’t seem capable of addressing my points. This has nothing to do with Trump. I never supported him and he’s irrelevant to parent objections to sexual images in school libraries.
Do you object to any sexual content or only if images, as a graphic novel would depict. So Judy Blume books are ok because they don't have pictures? But if someone made a graphic novel of "Forever" that wouldn't be ok?
What about a book shown in a sex ed class? That's not ok? Or even for a library to have a basics sex ed book?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I would really like to hear from a conservative opinion.
Technically it seems one has grounds to sue Florida to remove Bibles from schools based on Florida's own policy. The Bible has some scandalous references/descriptions.
I’ll offer a conservative opinion. These things are hard to legislate. Ideally they wouldn’t require legislation. I personally have no idea how some people are okay with books like “gender queer” with its images of sex acts being in public school libraries. But apparently they are. And it seems that parents have found the only way to keep them out is to go to their representatives and get laws passed. And these laws will overreach. Because there is a line between acceptable and unacceptable and it’s different for different families. I wish people who think their kids should read Gender Queer would just buy it for their kids and not defend its presence in school. I wish schools would err on the side of not having this material present when it is questionable. But that’s not how it works today. So we have laws instead of common sense and some of those laws go too far.
That’s not a “conservative” opinion, that’s a regressive and fascistic as the rest of your dumb party, you just tart it up with more words. Just to use your dumb example, what do you think “gender queer” means, precisely? What kind of illicit books do you think were being read in schools? Look at those book shelves above. You think all those empty or covered shelves were populated by “gender queer” books?
You guys are just seriously beyond stupid. A few years ago, around 2016/2017 when we started calling Republicans Nazis for their support of Trump, you all took great offense and noted what you perceived to be a lack of parallels with that noted fascist party. And here you are, calmly and articulately defending fascism.
DP. You're calling the PP (and others) "beyond stupid" when you aren't even bright enough to follow along with the PP's post? The point is that many parents feel the book, "Gender Queer," is sexually explicit (it is) and does not belong in public school libraries (it doesn't).
Of course those empty shelves weren't populated by books like "Gender Queer." Unfortunately, because people like you inexplicably disagree with common sense, there is now legislation that is grossly overreaching so that all books can be reviewed. This would be unnecessary if there was even a shred of common sense from the left, but there clearly is not. Simply removing "Gender Queer" from public school libraries would have been the obvious solution, but no. Apparently removing an obviously pornographic book from school shelves was just a bridge too far for liberals.
Not to fear though! You can still purchase this book (or check it out of the public library) and expose your own kids to pornography as much as you'd like.
Oh honey. You’re beyond help.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I would really like to hear from a conservative opinion.
Technically it seems one has grounds to sue Florida to remove Bibles from schools based on Florida's own policy. The Bible has some scandalous references/descriptions.
I’ll offer a conservative opinion. These things are hard to legislate. Ideally they wouldn’t require legislation. I personally have no idea how some people are okay with books like “gender queer” with its images of sex acts being in public school libraries. But apparently they are. And it seems that parents have found the only way to keep them out is to go to their representatives and get laws passed. And these laws will overreach. Because there is a line between acceptable and unacceptable and it’s different for different families. I wish people who think their kids should read Gender Queer would just buy it for their kids and not defend its presence in school. I wish schools would err on the side of not having this material present when it is questionable. But that’s not how it works today. So we have laws instead of common sense and some of those laws go too far.
That’s not a “conservative” opinion, that’s a regressive and fascistic as the rest of your dumb party, you just tart it up with more words. Just to use your dumb example, what do you think “gender queer” means, precisely? What kind of illicit books do you think were being read in schools? Look at those book shelves above. You think all those empty or covered shelves were populated by “gender queer” books?
You guys are just seriously beyond stupid. A few years ago, around 2016/2017 when we started calling Republicans Nazis for their support of Trump, you all took great offense and noted what you perceived to be a lack of parallels with that noted fascist party. And here you are, calmly and articulately defending fascism.
You don’t seem capable of addressing my points. This has nothing to do with Trump. I never supported him and he’s irrelevant to parent objections to sexual images in school libraries.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I would really like to hear from a conservative opinion.
Technically it seems one has grounds to sue Florida to remove Bibles from schools based on Florida's own policy. The Bible has some scandalous references/descriptions.
I’ll offer a conservative opinion. These things are hard to legislate. Ideally they wouldn’t require legislation. I personally have no idea how some people are okay with books like “gender queer” with its images of sex acts being in public school libraries. But apparently they are. And it seems that parents have found the only way to keep them out is to go to their representatives and get laws passed. And these laws will overreach. Because there is a line between acceptable and unacceptable and it’s different for different families. I wish people who think their kids should read Gender Queer would just buy it for their kids and not defend its presence in school. I wish schools would err on the side of not having this material present when it is questionable. But that’s not how it works today. So we have laws instead of common sense and some of those laws go too far.
That’s not a “conservative” opinion, that’s a regressive and fascistic as the rest of your dumb party, you just tart it up with more words. Just to use your dumb example, what do you think “gender queer” means, precisely? What kind of illicit books do you think were being read in schools? Look at those book shelves above. You think all those empty or covered shelves were populated by “gender queer” books?
You guys are just seriously beyond stupid. A few years ago, around 2016/2017 when we started calling Republicans Nazis for their support of Trump, you all took great offense and noted what you perceived to be a lack of parallels with that noted fascist party. And here you are, calmly and articulately defending fascism.
DP. You're calling the PP (and others) "beyond stupid" when you aren't even bright enough to follow along with the PP's post? The point is that many parents feel the book, "Gender Queer," is sexually explicit (it is) and does not belong in public school libraries (it doesn't).
Of course those empty shelves weren't populated by books like "Gender Queer." Unfortunately, because people like you inexplicably disagree with common sense, there is now legislation that is grossly overreaching so that all books can be reviewed. This would be unnecessary if there was even a shred of common sense from the left, but there clearly is not. Simply removing "Gender Queer" from public school libraries would have been the obvious solution, but no. Apparently removing an obviously pornographic book from school shelves was just a bridge too far for liberals.
Not to fear though! You can still purchase this book (or check it out of the public library) and expose your own kids to pornography as much as you'd like.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I would really like to hear from a conservative opinion.
Technically it seems one has grounds to sue Florida to remove Bibles from schools based on Florida's own policy. The Bible has some scandalous references/descriptions.
I’ll offer a conservative opinion. These things are hard to legislate. Ideally they wouldn’t require legislation. I personally have no idea how some people are okay with books like “gender queer” with its images of sex acts being in public school libraries. But apparently they are. And it seems that parents have found the only way to keep them out is to go to their representatives and get laws passed. And these laws will overreach. Because there is a line between acceptable and unacceptable and it’s different for different families. I wish people who think their kids should read Gender Queer would just buy it for their kids and not defend its presence in school. I wish schools would err on the side of not having this material present when it is questionable. But that’s not how it works today. So we have laws instead of common sense and some of those laws go too far.
Gender queer seems to be an easy call for republicans, what about Toni Morrison? Her books are being banned, but no one seems to want to articulate why
I don’t have an objection to Toni Morrison’s books. Good books will get caught up in bad legislation. It would have been better if reasonable compromises could be made. But some people will insist on making images of sex acts available to children in their schools. Parents will object. Poor legislation is the end result.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I would really like to hear from a conservative opinion.
Technically it seems one has grounds to sue Florida to remove Bibles from schools based on Florida's own policy. The Bible has some scandalous references/descriptions.
I’ll offer a conservative opinion. These things are hard to legislate. Ideally they wouldn’t require legislation. I personally have no idea how some people are okay with books like “gender queer” with its images of sex acts being in public school libraries. But apparently they are. And it seems that parents have found the only way to keep them out is to go to their representatives and get laws passed. And these laws will overreach. Because there is a line between acceptable and unacceptable and it’s different for different families. I wish people who think their kids should read Gender Queer would just buy it for their kids and not defend its presence in school. I wish schools would err on the side of not having this material present when it is questionable. But that’s not how it works today. So we have laws instead of common sense and some of those laws go too far.
That’s not a “conservative” opinion, that’s a regressive and fascistic as the rest of your dumb party, you just tart it up with more words. Just to use your dumb example, what do you think “gender queer” means, precisely? What kind of illicit books do you think were being read in schools? Look at those book shelves above. You think all those empty or covered shelves were populated by “gender queer” books?
You guys are just seriously beyond stupid. A few years ago, around 2016/2017 when we started calling Republicans Nazis for their support of Trump, you all took great offense and noted what you perceived to be a lack of parallels with that noted fascist party. And here you are, calmly and articulately defending fascism.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I would really like to hear from a conservative opinion.
Technically it seems one has grounds to sue Florida to remove Bibles from schools based on Florida's own policy. The Bible has some scandalous references/descriptions.
I’ll offer a conservative opinion. These things are hard to legislate. Ideally they wouldn’t require legislation. I personally have no idea how some people are okay with books like “gender queer” with its images of sex acts being in public school libraries. But apparently they are. And it seems that parents have found the only way to keep them out is to go to their representatives and get laws passed. And these laws will overreach. Because there is a line between acceptable and unacceptable and it’s different for different families. I wish people who think their kids should read Gender Queer would just buy it for their kids and not defend its presence in school. I wish schools would err on the side of not having this material present when it is questionable. But that’s not how it works today. So we have laws instead of common sense and some of those laws go too far.
That’s not a “conservative” opinion, that’s a regressive and fascistic as the rest of your dumb party, you just tart it up with more words. Just to use your dumb example, what do you think “gender queer” means, precisely? What kind of illicit books do you think were being read in schools? Look at those book shelves above. You think all those empty or covered shelves were populated by “gender queer” books?
You guys are just seriously beyond stupid. A few years ago, around 2016/2017 when we started calling Republicans Nazis for their support of Trump, you all took great offense and noted what you perceived to be a lack of parallels with that noted fascist party. And here you are, calmly and articulately defending fascism.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I would really like to hear from a conservative opinion.
Technically it seems one has grounds to sue Florida to remove Bibles from schools based on Florida's own policy. The Bible has some scandalous references/descriptions.
I’ll offer a conservative opinion. These things are hard to legislate. Ideally they wouldn’t require legislation. I personally have no idea how some people are okay with books like “gender queer” with its images of sex acts being in public school libraries. But apparently they are. And it seems that parents have found the only way to keep them out is to go to their representatives and get laws passed. And these laws will overreach. Because there is a line between acceptable and unacceptable and it’s different for different families. I wish people who think their kids should read Gender Queer would just buy it for their kids and not defend its presence in school. I wish schools would err on the side of not having this material present when it is questionable. But that’s not how it works today. So we have laws instead of common sense and some of those laws go too far.
Gender queer seems to be an easy call for republicans, what about Toni Morrison? Her books are being banned, but no one seems to want to articulate why
I don’t have an objection to Toni Morrison’s books. Good books will get caught up in bad legislation. It would have been better if reasonable compromises could be made. But some people will insist on making images of sex acts available to children in their schools. Parents will object. Poor legislation is the end result.