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Anonymous wrote:Truth be told, according to old maps, Ukraine and Russia are one empire. There was just a sect that broke off later in history. These people are the same people and share the same roots.

Bad blood happened and they split.

This war is dragging on and on unnecessarily and I don't feel as if Putin is a real threat. Zelenskyy is the threat because he comes every few months and finagles multi millions of dollars out of Congress. Now with the war in the Middle East and happenings in the Gaza Strip we now have 2 wars.

We are watching Babylon aka America fall. This country cannot sustain a 3rd war.

Untrue. The maps you are looking at are just a snapshot in time representing very narrow slices. Ukraine and Russia have been distinct people with distinct language and culture for well over a thousand years. Just stop already. If you're this ignorant of reality, you shouldn't even be posting.

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Anonymous wrote:I am laughing at the Russian bot farm posts.

This totally sucks for Ukraine- but still a great ROI and easy way to kill Russians.

I want Ukraine to win; fund them at 3x current levels.

Russians are like the worst people on the planet with those whacko ISIS groups.
The more dead of them both the better for the civilized world.
This is simply an investment to diminish the barbarian horde known as Russia. Money well spent.

Only if you assign the Ukrainian dead the value of zero.

At least they are dying with a rifle in their hand and not in a prison or gas chamber that the Russians will put most Ukrainian in if they took over.

Putin wiould kill all Ukrainians if given the opportunity. He is like Hitler- but more of a jerk.

Don’t be dramatic. This is not reality.

Well obviously his propagandists haven't gotten the memo, because they say Ukrainians aren't a people, Ukraine isn't a country, Ukrainian isn't a language, et cetera. They want to completely erase Ukraine. And guess what, if Putin disagreed with that they wouldn't be on air.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am laughing at the Russian bot farm posts.

This totally sucks for Ukraine- but still a great ROI and easy way to kill Russians.

I want Ukraine to win; fund them at 3x current levels.

Russians are like the worst people on the planet with those whacko ISIS groups.
The more dead of them both the better for the civilized world.
This is simply an investment to diminish the barbarian horde known as Russia. Money well spent.

Only if you assign the Ukrainian dead the value of zero.

At least they are dying with a rifle in their hand and not in a prison or gas chamber that the Russians will put most Ukrainian in if they took over.

Putin wiould kill all Ukrainians if given the opportunity. He is like Hitler- but more of a jerk.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am laughing at the Russian bot farm posts.

This totally sucks for Ukraine- but still a great ROI and easy way to kill Russians.

I want Ukraine to win; fund them at 3x current levels.

Russians are like the worst people on the planet with those whacko ISIS groups.
The more dead of them both the better for the civilized world.
This is simply an investment to diminish the barbarian horde known as Russia. Money well spent.

Only if you assign the Ukrainian dead the value of zero.

At least they are dying with a rifle in their hand and not in a prison or gas chamber that the Russians will put most Ukrainian in if they took over.

Putin would kill all Ukrainians if given the opportunity. He is like Hitler- but more of a jerk.

Don’t be dramatic. This is not reality.

Actually, it is. It's a stated goal to wipe out Ukraine as a nationality.

Here's a link - watch all the clips on the right hand side.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMjd1IVgAQU&list=PLLWQyEN3YRo7bpdyPlWscpvx2O8qSu0T1

You may have missed Putin's threat when he first started the war? His "sleeping beauty" comment?

"Putin criticized Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky for failing to implement the protocol, and referenced an obscene song lyric to demonstrate what he wanted. "Whether you like it or don't like it, bear with it, my beauty," Putin said. Russia experts noted that Putin appeared to be quoting from "Sleeping Beauty in a Coffin" by the Soviet-era punk rock group Red Mold. "Sleeping beauty in a coffin, I crept up and f****d her. Like it, or dislike it, sleep my beauty," the English translation of the Russian lyrics reads."
https://www.businessinsider.com/putin-macron-meeting-quote-obscene-lyrics-show-russia-ukraine-demands-2022-2

Sure enough, he let his soldiers use rape as a weapon in Ukraine.

But you seem okay with that?

Putin's army has been in Crimea since 2014. In Eastern Ukraine just about since then. Have there been mass executions? I think not. I despise the guy but let's not pretend he "wants to kill all Ukrainians". That's just overwrought nonsense.

What do you think would Biden say if Putin announced he no longer wants to abide by the terms of the treaty to which his country was a signatory? It wouldn't be as crude as that, but I'm sure it would be some version of "a deal's a deal no matter how you feel."

Here are civilian apartment buildings burning.

2018: "247,000 Russians have moved to Crimea since annexation. At the same time, about 140,000 people have left, mostly Ukrainians and Crimean Tatars who moved to the Ukrainian mainland"
https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-accused-of-reshaping-annexed-crimea-demographics-ukraine/29262130.html

2023: "more than 500,000 Russian citizens moving to Crimea since 2014"
https://www.wsj.com/world/europe/in-crimea-pro-ukraine-feelings-prompt-a-russian-crackdown-123494b0

"the reformatting of the World is underway. We should clearly understand we have the goals of our special military operation, but as the President [Putin] said, we also have a goal of a strategic reformatting of the World. It can't be postponed. We should take advantage of the fact that Western institutions are largely destabilized."
[6:53 / 7:53] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqS3uguNl5M

I really don't like liars (or traitors).

Your personal preferences are irrelevant. Nothing you posted constitutes proof of Putin wanting to kill every last Ukrainian.

There are in fact, several million Ukrainians who live in Russia. And ethnic Ukrainians are one of the largest ethnic groups in Russia. If Putin aimed to kill Ukrainians, he really didn't need to leave home.

1. The other poster who you were arguing with said "Putin would kill all Ukrainians if given the opportunity. He is like Hitler- but more of a jerk"
2. Your response was "Don’t be dramatic. This is not reality."
3. My response to your response was "Actually, it is. It's a stated goal to wipe out Ukraine as a nationality."
4. This is where you changed the argument to read "let's not pretend he "wants to kill all[\b] Ukrainians". [b]That's just overwrought nonsense. "
5. I supplied evidence to counter your (false) assertion that the deaths in Ukraine were "just overwrought nonsense"
6. To which you twisted the words a second time to claim "Your personal preferences are irrelevant. Nothing you posted constitutes proof of Putin wanting to kill every last Ukrainian.", using the basis of ethnicity when the original state dealt with Ukrainian nationalism. Ex. Margharita Simonian is an ethnic Armenian, but is banned in her own home country of Armenia for her pro-Russian propaganda.

What a wonderfully narrow semantic definition. You're truly a poser channeling Neville Chamberlain, using simplistic Russian-style sophistry. And you are Russian, correct? Your dismissal of logic and statement that "personal preferences are irrelevant" give you away, my friend.

https://www.redbubble.com/i/t-shirt/Rasha-Parasha-Putin-Khujlo-by-Yaroslavka/140750311.6VDG0

But you'll be happy to know that a very special event will happen in 11 days. I believe it will be the trigger for an 18 month sequence of events in Russia that even Putin can't stop. You should start shopping your resume now and getting the t-shirt would be a nice touch? You know, to get ahead of the curve.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am laughing at the Russian bot farm posts.

This totally sucks for Ukraine- but still a great ROI and easy way to kill Russians.

I want Ukraine to win; fund them at 3x current levels.

Russians are like the worst people on the planet with those whacko ISIS groups.
The more dead of them both the better for the civilized world.
This is simply an investment to diminish the barbarian horde known as Russia. Money well spent.

Only if you assign the Ukrainian dead the value of zero.

At least they are dying with a rifle in their hand and not in a prison or gas chamber that the Russians will put most Ukrainian in if they took over.

Putin would kill all Ukrainians if given the opportunity. He is like Hitler- but more of a jerk.

Don’t be dramatic. This is not reality.

Actually, it is. It's a stated goal to wipe out Ukraine as a nationality.

Here's a link - watch all the clips on the right hand side.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMjd1IVgAQU&list=PLLWQyEN3YRo7bpdyPlWscpvx2O8qSu0T1

You may have missed Putin's threat when he first started the war? His "sleeping beauty" comment?

"Putin criticized Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky for failing to implement the protocol, and referenced an obscene song lyric to demonstrate what he wanted. "Whether you like it or don't like it, bear with it, my beauty," Putin said. Russia experts noted that Putin appeared to be quoting from "Sleeping Beauty in a Coffin" by the Soviet-era punk rock group Red Mold. "Sleeping beauty in a coffin, I crept up and f****d her. Like it, or dislike it, sleep my beauty," the English translation of the Russian lyrics reads."
https://www.businessinsider.com/putin-macron-meeting-quote-obscene-lyrics-show-russia-ukraine-demands-2022-2

Sure enough, he let his soldiers use rape as a weapon in Ukraine.

But you seem okay with that?

Putin's army has been in Crimea since 2014. In Eastern Ukraine just about since then. Have there been mass executions? I think not. I despise the guy but let's not pretend he "wants to kill all Ukrainians". That's just overwrought nonsense.

What do you think would Biden say if Putin announced he no longer wants to abide by the terms of the treaty to which his country was a signatory? It wouldn't be as crude as that, but I'm sure it would be some version of "a deal's a deal no matter how you feel."

Here are civilian apartment buildings burning.

2018: "247,000 Russians have moved to Crimea since annexation. At the same time, about 140,000 people have left, mostly Ukrainians and Crimean Tatars who moved to the Ukrainian mainland"
https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-accused-of-reshaping-annexed-crimea-demographics-ukraine/29262130.html

2023: "more than 500,000 Russian citizens moving to Crimea since 2014"
https://www.wsj.com/world/europe/in-crimea-pro-ukraine-feelings-prompt-a-russian-crackdown-123494b0

"the reformatting of the World is underway. We should clearly understand we have the goals of our special military operation, but as the President [Putin] said, we also have a goal of a strategic reformatting of the World. It can't be postponed. We should take advantage of the fact that Western institutions are largely destabilized."
[6:53 / 7:53] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqS3uguNl5M

I really don't like liars (or traitors).

Your personal preferences are irrelevant. Nothing you posted constitutes proof of Putin wanting to kill every last Ukrainian.

There are in fact, several million Ukrainians who live in Russia. And ethnic Ukrainians are one of the largest ethnic groups in Russia. If Putin aimed to kill Ukrainians, he really didn't need to leave home.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am laughing at the Russian bot farm posts.

This totally sucks for Ukraine- but still a great ROI and easy way to kill Russians.

I want Ukraine to win; fund them at 3x current levels.

Russians are like the worst people on the planet with those whacko ISIS groups.
The more dead of them both the better for the civilized world.
This is simply an investment to diminish the barbarian horde known as Russia. Money well spent.

Only if you assign the Ukrainian dead the value of zero.

At least they are dying with a rifle in their hand and not in a prison or gas chamber that the Russians will put most Ukrainian in if they took over.

Putin would kill all Ukrainians if given the opportunity. He is like Hitler- but more of a jerk.

Don’t be dramatic. This is not reality.

Actually, it is. It's a stated goal to wipe out Ukraine as a nationality.

Here's a link - watch all the clips on the right hand side.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMjd1IVgAQU&list=PLLWQyEN3YRo7bpdyPlWscpvx2O8qSu0T1

You may have missed Putin's threat when he first started the war? His "sleeping beauty" comment?

"Putin criticized Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky for failing to implement the protocol, and referenced an obscene song lyric to demonstrate what he wanted. "Whether you like it or don't like it, bear with it, my beauty," Putin said. Russia experts noted that Putin appeared to be quoting from "Sleeping Beauty in a Coffin" by the Soviet-era punk rock group Red Mold. "Sleeping beauty in a coffin, I crept up and f****d her. Like it, or dislike it, sleep my beauty," the English translation of the Russian lyrics reads."
https://www.businessinsider.com/putin-macron-meeting-quote-obscene-lyrics-show-russia-ukraine-demands-2022-2

Sure enough, he let his soldiers use rape as a weapon in Ukraine.

But you seem okay with that?

Putin's army has been in Crimea since 2014. In Eastern Ukraine just about since then. Have there been mass executions? I think not. I despise the guy but let's not pretend he "wants to kill all Ukrainians". That's just overwrought nonsense.

What do you think would Biden say if Putin announced he no longer wants to abide by the terms of the treaty to which his country was a signatory? It wouldn't be as crude as that, but I'm sure it would be some version of "a deal's a deal no matter how you feel."

Here are civilian apartment buildings burning.

2018: "247,000 Russians have moved to Crimea since annexation. At the same time, about 140,000 people have left, mostly Ukrainians and Crimean Tatars who moved to the Ukrainian mainland"
https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-accused-of-reshaping-annexed-crimea-demographics-ukraine/29262130.html

2023: "more than 500,000 Russian citizens moving to Crimea since 2014"
https://www.wsj.com/world/europe/in-crimea-pro-ukraine-feelings-prompt-a-russian-crackdown-123494b0

"the reformatting of the World is underway. We should clearly understand we have the goals of our special military operation, but as the President [Putin] said, we also have a goal of a strategic reformatting of the World. It can't be postponed. We should take advantage of the fact that Western institutions are largely destabilized."
[6:53 / 7:53] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqS3uguNl5M

I really don't like liars (or traitors).

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And all they had to say was no NATO.

So sad.

So naive - why do you think Putin made that demand? He did not want the weight of US and allies on him when he invaded … he would have invaded anyway …

What is wrong with invading? We have millions invading US on daily basis. Why are we suddenly against Russians crossing Ukrainian borders illegally?

You cannot be serious.

One sovereign country invading another sovereign country violates
- international laws,
- the Just War framework for when and how war is justified and that has guided Western countries for centuries
- humanitarian laws since they targeted civilians.

Illegal immigrants in the US are deported not tortured and bombed into oblivion.

Democrats do not support open borders and have usually deported illegal Inmigrant at much higher rates than Trump or Bush.

Not wanting to cage Inmigrant children and separate families at the border does not amount to promoting open borders but wanting humans treated in humane ways.

If you're posting from a Western country, you're either blissfully ignorant of history, or equally blissfully devoid of irony.

Posting from US

What western countries invade their neighbors, target civilians and spend 17 years arming terrorist groups to attack Israel?

None.

You cannot live in a western democracy or value rule of law or human life if you think Putin’s invasion of sovereign countries and targeting of civilians is legal or acceptable and comparable to illegal immigrants …

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
And all they had to say was no NATO.

So sad.

So naive - why do you think Putin made that demand? He did not want the weight of US and allies on him when he invaded … he would have invaded anyway …

What is wrong with invading? We have millions invading US on daily basis. Why are we suddenly against Russians crossing Ukrainian borders illegally?

You cannot be serious.

One sovereign country invading another sovereign country violates
- international laws,
- the Just War framework for when and how war is justified and that has guided Western countries for centuries
- humanitarian laws since they targeted civilians.

Illegal immigrants in the US are deported not tortured and bombed into oblivion.

Democrats do not support open borders and have usually deported illegal Inmigrant at much higher rates than Trump or Bush.

Not wanting to cage Inmigrant children and separate families at the border does not amount to promoting open borders but wanting humans treated in humane ways.

If you're posting from a Western country, you're either blissfully ignorant of history, or equally blissfully devoid of irony.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am laughing at the Russian bot farm posts.

This totally sucks for Ukraine- but still a great ROI and easy way to kill Russians.

I want Ukraine to win; fund them at 3x current levels.

Russians are like the worst people on the planet with those whacko ISIS groups.
The more dead of them both the better for the civilized world.
This is simply an investment to diminish the barbarian horde known as Russia. Money well spent.

Only if you assign the Ukrainian dead the value of zero.

At least they are dying with a rifle in their hand and not in a prison or gas chamber that the Russians will put most Ukrainian in if they took over.

Putin would kill all Ukrainians if given the opportunity. He is like Hitler- but more of a jerk.

Don’t be dramatic. This is not reality.

Actually, it is. It's a stated goal to wipe out Ukraine as a nationality.

Here's a link - watch all the clips on the right hand side.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMjd1IVgAQU&list=PLLWQyEN3YRo7bpdyPlWscpvx2O8qSu0T1

You may have missed Putin's threat when he first started the war? His "sleeping beauty" comment?

"Putin criticized Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky for failing to implement the protocol, and referenced an obscene song lyric to demonstrate what he wanted. "Whether you like it or don't like it, bear with it, my beauty," Putin said. Russia experts noted that Putin appeared to be quoting from "Sleeping Beauty in a Coffin" by the Soviet-era punk rock group Red Mold. "Sleeping beauty in a coffin, I crept up and f****d her. Like it, or dislike it, sleep my beauty," the English translation of the Russian lyrics reads."
https://www.businessinsider.com/putin-macron-meeting-quote-obscene-lyrics-show-russia-ukraine-demands-2022-2

Sure enough, he let his soldiers use rape as a weapon in Ukraine.

But you seem okay with that?

Putin's army has been in Crimea since 2014. In Eastern Ukraine just about since then. Have there been mass executions? I think not. I despise the guy but let's not pretend he "wants to kill all Ukrainians". That's just overwrought nonsense.

What do you think would Biden say if Putin announced he no longer wants to abide by the terms of the treaty to which his country was a signatory? It wouldn't be as crude as that, but I'm sure it would be some version of "a deal's a deal no matter how you feel."

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
And all they had to say was no NATO.

So sad.

So naive - why do you think Putin made that demand? He did not want the weight of US and allies on him when he invaded … he would have invaded anyway …

What is wrong with invading? We have millions invading US on daily basis. Why are we suddenly against Russians crossing Ukrainian borders illegally?

You cannot be serious.

One sovereign country invading another sovereign country violates
- international laws,
- the Just War framework for when and how war is justified and that has guided Western countries for centuries
- humanitarian laws since they targeted civilians.

Illegal immigrants in the US are deported not tortured and bombed into oblivion.

Democrats do not support open borders and have usually deported illegal Inmigrant at much higher rates than Trump or Bush.

Not wanting to cage Inmigrant children and separate families at the border does not amount to promoting open borders but wanting humans treated in humane ways.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
And all they had to say was no NATO.

So sad.

So naive - why do you think Putin made that demand? He did not want the weight of US and allies on him when he invaded … he would have invaded anyway …

What is wrong with invading? We have millions invading US on daily basis. Why are we suddenly against Russians crossing Ukrainian borders illegally?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
And all they had to say was no NATO.

So sad.

So naive - why do you think Putin made that demand? He did not want the weight of US and allies on him when he invaded … he would have invaded anyway …

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am laughing at the Russian bot farm posts.

This totally sucks for Ukraine- but still a great ROI and easy way to kill Russians.

I want Ukraine to win; fund them at 3x current levels.

Russians are like the worst people on the planet with those whacko ISIS groups.
The more dead of them both the better for the civilized world.
This is simply an investment to diminish the barbarian horde known as Russia. Money well spent.

Only if you assign the Ukrainian dead the value of zero.

At least they are dying with a rifle in their hand and not in a prison or gas chamber that the Russians will put most Ukrainian in if they took over.

Putin would kill all Ukrainians if given the opportunity. He is like Hitler- but more of a jerk.

Don’t be dramatic. This is not reality.

Actually, it is. It's a stated goal to wipe out Ukraine as a nationality.

Here's a link - watch all the clips on the right hand side.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMjd1IVgAQU&list=PLLWQyEN3YRo7bpdyPlWscpvx2O8qSu0T1

You may have missed Putin's threat when he first started the war? His "sleeping beauty" comment?

"Putin criticized Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky for failing to implement the protocol, and referenced an obscene song lyric to demonstrate what he wanted. "Whether you like it or don't like it, bear with it, my beauty," Putin said. Russia experts noted that Putin appeared to be quoting from "Sleeping Beauty in a Coffin" by the Soviet-era punk rock group Red Mold. "Sleeping beauty in a coffin, I crept up and f****d her. Like it, or dislike it, sleep my beauty," the English translation of the Russian lyrics reads."
https://www.businessinsider.com/putin-macron-meeting-quote-obscene-lyrics-show-russia-ukraine-demands-2022-2

Sure enough, he let his soldiers use rape as a weapon in Ukraine.

But you seem okay with that?

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Anonymous wrote:The GOP undermining Israel and Ukraine funding has now caused this:

If the US cannot be seen as standing firmly by its allies, the enemies will smell blood in the water and start circling.

Thanks GOP for being traitors.

Maybe we should be more selective in who we call "allies." We can't even take care of our own issues, let alone those of every other nation in the world.

This is what an over-extended empire looks like.