Someone mentioned Camilla. She will never, ever be queen, that has always been clear - she will be "Princess Consort".

Clergy will not be included in the head count.

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I think Edward's kids are definitely attending - added. All the grandchildren are. Updated to add them - leaving 4 spots.

The Queen
Prince Charles
Duchess Camilla
Prince Andrew
Princess Anne
Capt. Lawrence
Prince Edward
Countess Sophie
Prince William
Duchess Kate
Prince Harry
Princess Eugenie
Jack Brooksbank
Princess Beatrice
Edo Mozzelli
Zara Tindall
Mike Tindall
Peter Phillips
Lady Louise
Viscount James
Bernhard, Hereditary Prince of Baden
Prince Donatus, Landgrave of Hesse
Prince Philipp of Hohenlohe-Langenburg
Lady Sarah Chatto
Viscount Linley
Archbishop of Canterbury

That leaves 6 slots. I think 2-3 will be his longest serving staff or advisors. 1 could be a representative of the Greek royal family? If that's the case my bet's on Pavlos, Crown Prince of Greece. He's Marie-Chantal's husband.

Doesn't explain why the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom decided to not come if there's so many slots left. Are they including Edward's kids - Louise and James? They're old enough to attend as official representatives - at least Louise is.

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Anonymous wrote:This is who I bet will be in attendance (from the Royal Family):

The Queen, Prince Charles, Duchess of Cornwall, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, Duke of Sussex, Prince Andrew, Prince Edward, Countess of Wessex, Lady Louis, James, Viscount Severn, Princess Anne, Timothy Laurence, Zara Tindall, Mike Tindall, Peter Phillips, Princess Eugenie, Jack Brooksbank, Princess Beatrice, Edo Mapelli Mozzi, possibly the Duke and Duchess of Kent

Not part of the RF: Prince Philip's private secretary, a few long-time staff, Boris Johnson, Archbishop of Canterbury

Philip doesn't have any surviving members from his Greece family?

Nope

Not true - at all.

His uncle was King of Greece and desposed. The entire Greek royal family lives in the U.S. and would have been included in a normal ceremony. Nothing would have stopped Marie-Chantal from showing up in royal finery.

In addition Phillip had 18 nieces and nephews born of his three sisters. 5 of the nephews and 1 niece is still alive. On top of all the grand-nephews and nieces who are in their 40s, 50s, and 60s.

Deposed Crown Prince and Princess of Greece at William + Kate's wedding


Phillip and Elizabeth at Marie-Chantal's wedding



The heads of the Greek Royal Family (they live in the U.S.)

Finally got some confirmed attendees. Fergie (ex-wife of Andrew) is not invited to the funeral. Three of Phillip's German relatives are coming - 2 great-nephews and a cousin. All of whom are the grandchildren of his three Greek sisters who married Germans during the war. They were not permitted to bring their wives. I've added Sarah Chatto and David Armstrong-Jones, Margaret's children, as they grew up around Phillip their whole lives.

So....

The Queen
Prince Charles
Duchess Camilla
Prince Andrew
Princess Anne
Capt. Lawrence
Prince Edward
Countess Sophie
Prince William
Duchess Kate
Prince Harry
Princess Eugenie
Jack Brooksbank
Princess Beatrice
Edo Mozzelli
Zara Tindall
Mike Tindall
Peter Phillips
Bernhard, Hereditary Prince of Baden
Prince Donatus, Landgrave of Hesse
Prince Philipp of Hohenlohe-Langenburg
Lady Sarah Chatto
Viscount Linley
Archbishop of Canterbury

Pictured is Hohenlohe

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It's ridiculous for Eugenie and Beatrice to have titles, as much as will be Archie the far flung American cousin. The other European royal families are streamlined and don't have such bloated payrolls. The Swedish King's grandchildren recently lost their titles, so this isn't unusual. Harry should see which way the wind is blowing.

"The decision by King Carl XVI Gustaf means the children no longer have the title of royal highness and are not expected to perform official royal duties.
They will remain members of the royal family and retain their titles of dukes and duchesses.
The change has not affected the king's two grandchildren who are in direct line to the throne.
Observers say the move reflects a wider view that there is no need to pay so many members of the royal family for official duties."

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49958085

OMG..seriously?.. Because one king eons ago said something.. does that mean that QE2 can not issue something else? The funny things about laws is that they can be changed you know.

This was 2019, was that eons ago for you? And this is about grandchildren, not even great grandchildren. Charles has already said he wants a slimmed down monarchy. I thought people wanted the monarchy to modernize, yet now people want to hold fast to old traditions that other monarchies don't even adhere to? A slimmed down monarchy is all the rage in Europe.

Great. Start with kicking the pedophile prince out of the country, turning him over to the FBI, and removing his EX-WIFE from royal housing along with their two grown adult daughters, son-in-laws, and two grandchildren.

Sounds like a plan! But since the Queen isn't likely to do it hopefully Charles can clean house and get things back in order.

We'll see. Not many people have too much faith in Charles.

There’s no love lost between Charles and Andrew.

I hate to be maudlin, but as someone whose father died at 74, and whose Grandmother died at 100, I could see the Queen outliving Charles. And, I can't say that I would be sad that he hadn't gotten the chance to be King. Now, I would feel sad for his sons and grandchildren, of course. And his widow. However, I'm not certain he is well suited to the job of monarch.

Q Elizabeth father did not lived to 74... he was 57 when he died..
and BTW.. this is strange that Wiki does not know the exact birth year of him?.. what is that all about?..
George VI (Albert Frederick Arthur George; 14 December 1895 – 6 February 1952)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_VI

That poster was talking about her own father and grandmother’s ages, not the BRF.

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It's ridiculous for Eugenie and Beatrice to have titles, as much as will be Archie the far flung American cousin. The other European royal families are streamlined and don't have such bloated payrolls. The Swedish King's grandchildren recently lost their titles, so this isn't unusual. Harry should see which way the wind is blowing.

"The decision by King Carl XVI Gustaf means the children no longer have the title of royal highness and are not expected to perform official royal duties.
They will remain members of the royal family and retain their titles of dukes and duchesses.
The change has not affected the king's two grandchildren who are in direct line to the throne.
Observers say the move reflects a wider view that there is no need to pay so many members of the royal family for official duties."

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49958085

OMG..seriously?.. Because one king eons ago said something.. does that mean that QE2 can not issue something else? The funny things about laws is that they can be changed you know.

This was 2019, was that eons ago for you? And this is about grandchildren, not even great grandchildren. Charles has already said he wants a slimmed down monarchy. I thought people wanted the monarchy to modernize, yet now people want to hold fast to old traditions that other monarchies don't even adhere to? A slimmed down monarchy is all the rage in Europe.

Great. Start with kicking the pedophile prince out of the country, turning him over to the FBI, and removing his EX-WIFE from royal housing along with their two grown adult daughters, son-in-laws, and two grandchildren.

Sounds like a plan! But since the Queen isn't likely to do it hopefully Charles can clean house and get things back in order.

We'll see. Not many people have too much faith in Charles.

There’s no love lost between Charles and Andrew.

I hate to be maudlin, but as someone whose father died at 74, and whose Grandmother died at 100, I could see the Queen outliving Charles. And, I can't say that I would be sad that he hadn't gotten the chance to be King. Now, I would feel sad for his sons and grandchildren, of course. And his widow. However, I'm not certain he is well suited to the job of monarch.

Q Elizabeth father did not lived to 74... he was 57 when he died..
and BTW.. this is strange that Wiki does not know the exact birth year of him?.. what is that all about?..
George VI (Albert Frederick Arthur George; 14 December 1895 – 6 February 1952)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_VI

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It's ridiculous for Eugenie and Beatrice to have titles, as much as will be Archie the far flung American cousin. The other European royal families are streamlined and don't have such bloated payrolls. The Swedish King's grandchildren recently lost their titles, so this isn't unusual. Harry should see which way the wind is blowing.

"The decision by King Carl XVI Gustaf means the children no longer have the title of royal highness and are not expected to perform official royal duties.
They will remain members of the royal family and retain their titles of dukes and duchesses.
The change has not affected the king's two grandchildren who are in direct line to the throne.
Observers say the move reflects a wider view that there is no need to pay so many members of the royal family for official duties."

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49958085

OMG..seriously?.. Because one king eons ago said something.. does that mean that QE2 can not issue something else? The funny things about laws is that they can be changed you know.

This was 2019, was that eons ago for you? And this is about grandchildren, not even great grandchildren. Charles has already said he wants a slimmed down monarchy. I thought people wanted the monarchy to modernize, yet now people want to hold fast to old traditions that other monarchies don't even adhere to? A slimmed down monarchy is all the rage in Europe.

Great. Start with kicking the pedophile prince out of the country, turning him over to the FBI, and removing his EX-WIFE from royal housing along with their two grown adult daughters, son-in-laws, and two grandchildren.

Sounds like a plan! But since the Queen isn't likely to do it hopefully Charles can clean house and get things back in order.

We'll see. Not many people have too much faith in Charles.

There’s no love lost between Charles and Andrew.

I hate to be maudlin, but as someone whose father died at 74, and whose Grandmother died at 100, I could see the Queen outliving Charles. And, I can't say that I would be sad that he hadn't gotten the chance to be King. Now, I would feel sad for his sons and grandchildren, of course. And his widow. However, I'm not certain he is well suited to the job of monarch.

It would be the ultimate irony if Camilla did all that and never got to be Queen.

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Yep. They were changing it only for the child who had the non-white mother. Surprise.

Whatever do you mean? Charles has only two children. One is in the line of direct succession, the other isn't. The difference is clear enough. I mean Harry should understand primogeniture better than anyone.

Primogeniture doesn't have anything to do with the HRHs of a sovereign's children. Otherwise Anne, Edward, and Andrew would not have an HRH.

So....you think the Queen granted the HRH titles to all the Cambridge children was just for the hell of it?

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It's ridiculous for Eugenie and Beatrice to have titles, as much as will be Archie the far flung American cousin. The other European royal families are streamlined and don't have such bloated payrolls. The Swedish King's grandchildren recently lost their titles, so this isn't unusual. Harry should see which way the wind is blowing.

"The decision by King Carl XVI Gustaf means the children no longer have the title of royal highness and are not expected to perform official royal duties.
They will remain members of the royal family and retain their titles of dukes and duchesses.
The change has not affected the king's two grandchildren who are in direct line to the throne.
Observers say the move reflects a wider view that there is no need to pay so many members of the royal family for official duties."

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49958085

OMG..seriously?.. Because one king eons ago said something.. does that mean that QE2 can not issue something else? The funny things about laws is that they can be changed you know.

This was 2019, was that eons ago for you? And this is about grandchildren, not even great grandchildren. Charles has already said he wants a slimmed down monarchy. I thought people wanted the monarchy to modernize, yet now people want to hold fast to old traditions that other monarchies don't even adhere to? A slimmed down monarchy is all the rage in Europe.

Great. Start with kicking the pedophile prince out of the country, turning him over to the FBI, and removing his EX-WIFE from royal housing along with their two grown adult daughters, son-in-laws, and two grandchildren.

Sounds like a plan! But since the Queen isn't likely to do it hopefully Charles can clean house and get things back in order.

We'll see. Not many people have too much faith in Charles.

There’s no love lost between Charles and Andrew.

I hate to be maudlin, but as someone whose father died at 74, and whose Grandmother died at 100, I could see the Queen outliving Charles. And, I can't say that I would be sad that he hadn't gotten the chance to be King. Now, I would feel sad for his sons and grandchildren, of course. And his widow. However, I'm not certain he is well suited to the job of monarch.

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

It's ridiculous for Eugenie and Beatrice to have titles, as much as will be Archie the far flung American cousin. The other European royal families are streamlined and don't have such bloated payrolls. The Swedish King's grandchildren recently lost their titles, so this isn't unusual. Harry should see which way the wind is blowing.

"The decision by King Carl XVI Gustaf means the children no longer have the title of royal highness and are not expected to perform official royal duties.
They will remain members of the royal family and retain their titles of dukes and duchesses.
The change has not affected the king's two grandchildren who are in direct line to the throne.
Observers say the move reflects a wider view that there is no need to pay so many members of the royal family for official duties."

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49958085

OMG..seriously?.. Because one king eons ago said something.. does that mean that QE2 can not issue something else? The funny things about laws is that they can be changed you know.

This was 2019, was that eons ago for you? And this is about grandchildren, not even great grandchildren. Charles has already said he wants a slimmed down monarchy. I thought people wanted the monarchy to modernize, yet now people want to hold fast to old traditions that other monarchies don't even adhere to? A slimmed down monarchy is all the rage in Europe.

Great. Start with kicking the pedophile prince out of the country, turning him over to the FBI, and removing his EX-WIFE from royal housing along with their two grown adult daughters, son-in-laws, and two grandchildren.

Sounds like a plan! But since the Queen isn't likely to do it hopefully Charles can clean house and get things back in order.

We'll see. Not many people have too much faith in Charles.

There’s no love lost between Charles and Andrew.

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It's ridiculous for Eugenie and Beatrice to have titles, as much as will be Archie the far flung American cousin. The other European royal families are streamlined and don't have such bloated payrolls. The Swedish King's grandchildren recently lost their titles, so this isn't unusual. Harry should see which way the wind is blowing.

"The decision by King Carl XVI Gustaf means the children no longer have the title of royal highness and are not expected to perform official royal duties.
They will remain members of the royal family and retain their titles of dukes and duchesses.
The change has not affected the king's two grandchildren who are in direct line to the throne.
Observers say the move reflects a wider view that there is no need to pay so many members of the royal family for official duties."

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49958085

OMG..seriously?.. Because one king eons ago said something.. does that mean that QE2 can not issue something else? The funny things about laws is that they can be changed you know.

This was 2019, was that eons ago for you? And this is about grandchildren, not even great grandchildren. Charles has already said he wants a slimmed down monarchy. I thought people wanted the monarchy to modernize, yet now people want to hold fast to old traditions that other monarchies don't even adhere to? A slimmed down monarchy is all the rage in Europe.

Great. Start with kicking the pedophile prince out of the country, turning him over to the FBI, and removing his EX-WIFE from royal housing along with their two grown adult daughters, son-in-laws, and two grandchildren.

Sounds like a plan! But since the Queen isn't likely to do it hopefully Charles can clean house and get things back in order.

We'll see. Not many people have too much faith in Charles.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It's ridiculous for Eugenie and Beatrice to have titles, as much as will be Archie the far flung American cousin. The other European royal families are streamlined and don't have such bloated payrolls. The Swedish King's grandchildren recently lost their titles, so this isn't unusual. Harry should see which way the wind is blowing.

"The decision by King Carl XVI Gustaf means the children no longer have the title of royal highness and are not expected to perform official royal duties.
They will remain members of the royal family and retain their titles of dukes and duchesses.
The change has not affected the king's two grandchildren who are in direct line to the throne.
Observers say the move reflects a wider view that there is no need to pay so many members of the royal family for official duties."

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49958085

OMG..seriously?.. Because one king eons ago said something.. does that mean that QE2 can not issue something else? The funny things about laws is that they can be changed you know.

This was 2019, was that eons ago for you? And this is about grandchildren, not even great grandchildren. Charles has already said he wants a slimmed down monarchy. I thought people wanted the monarchy to modernize, yet now people want to hold fast to old traditions that other monarchies don't even adhere to? A slimmed down monarchy is all the rage in Europe.

Great. Start with kicking the pedophile prince out of the country, turning him over to the FBI, and removing his EX-WIFE from royal housing along with their two grown adult daughters, son-in-laws, and two grandchildren.

Sounds like a plan! But since the Queen isn't likely to do it hopefully Charles can clean house and get things back in order.

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It's ridiculous for Eugenie and Beatrice to have titles, as much as will be Archie the far flung American cousin. The other European royal families are streamlined and don't have such bloated payrolls. The Swedish King's grandchildren recently lost their titles, so this isn't unusual. Harry should see which way the wind is blowing.

"The decision by King Carl XVI Gustaf means the children no longer have the title of royal highness and are not expected to perform official royal duties.
They will remain members of the royal family and retain their titles of dukes and duchesses.
The change has not affected the king's two grandchildren who are in direct line to the throne.
Observers say the move reflects a wider view that there is no need to pay so many members of the royal family for official duties."

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49958085

OMG..seriously?.. Because one king eons ago said something.. does that mean that QE2 can not issue something else? The funny things about laws is that they can be changed you know.

This was 2019, was that eons ago for you? And this is about grandchildren, not even great grandchildren. Charles has already said he wants a slimmed down monarchy. I thought people wanted the monarchy to modernize, yet now people want to hold fast to old traditions that other monarchies don't even adhere to? A slimmed down monarchy is all the rage in Europe.