Anonymous
Post 07/05/2013 10:29     Subject: ludlow-taylor
If you want to kick out kids who you think are from PG you'd first have to prove it and DCPS requires more evidence than and internet rumor board saying "I saw a kid getting picked up a car with MD plates"

Barring that if enough IB parents enrolled their kids into LT they'd effectively kick out enough OOB kids because of the loss of OOB slots. Heck LT could easily become the next brent if the neighborhood demographics are as high SES as DCUMers claim.

Anonymous
Post 07/03/2013 08:09     Subject: ludlow-taylor
Anonymous wrote:12:58 here, that was a general statement, I did not mean to specifically suggest L-T classrooms were disruptive.
Thanks for clarifying that. I think it's important because previously it was possible to assume that's what you meant. Good to know it's not.
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2013 07:58     Subject: ludlow-taylor
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:[

Yep, that's the part that bothers me about this conversation. No one wants their kid to endure a class full of disruption but I see a lot of assumptions being made across the board about low-income black children. Sad.


What bothers me about this conversation, and L-T's situation is the lack of practicality and focus. The neighborhood is no longer populated predominantly by low-income black children. You can argue about assumptions being made about such kids until you're blue in the face without changing anything. What is obviously true is that most high-SES parents in the Stanton Park neighborhood won't put their kids in majority AA classes, because AA is highly correlated with socially and academically challenged in DCPS. Maybe a 1/4 of these are OK with sending their kids to majority AA classes (mostly very liberal whites, vs. high-SES black parents).

To effect change, you need to draw in IB parents, who are mostly white, as a group to K. To attract them, you need to talk to them, to engage them. The starting point has to be Cobbs going with her PG County address cheating supporters.

Practical and focused or not, you will never ever get anywhere with DCPS or elected leaders with the logic you employ above. And if this attitude runs through the dealings LT inboundary families is predominant I am not at all surprised that you all haven't gotten anywhere with the principal or DCPS. It's a losing proposition in our city to take this tack.






Anonymous
Post 07/03/2013 07:29     Subject: ludlow-taylor
Well whining about it isn't going to change anything and I see a lot of whining going on in this thread.
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2013 06:16     Subject: ludlow-taylor
Anonymous wrote:[

Yep, that's the part that bothers me about this conversation. No one wants their kid to endure a class full of disruption but I see a lot of assumptions being made across the board about low-income black children. Sad.


What bothers me about this conversation, and L-T's situation is the lack of practicality and focus. The neighborhood is no longer populated predominantly by low-income black children. You can argue about assumptions being made about such kids until you're blue in the face without changing anything. What is obviously true is that most high-SES parents in the Stanton Park neighborhood won't put their kids in majority AA classes, because AA is highly correlated with socially and academically challenged in DCPS. Maybe a 1/4 of these are OK with sending their kids to majority AA classes (mostly very liberal whites, vs. high-SES black parents).

To effect change, you need to draw in IB parents, who are mostly white, as a group to K. To attract them, you need to talk to them, to engage them. The starting point has to be Cobbs going with her PG County address cheating supporters.








Anonymous
Post 07/02/2013 17:41     Subject: Re:ludlow-taylor
Question for Antonia, if she's still around....

You mentioned that you were OOB for L-T. What made you choose that school for your children? It sounds like you're happy with your decision. What are the school's strengths or what do you like best about L-T? Are your children doing well?
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2013 16:06     Subject: ludlow-taylor
12:58 here, that was a general statement, I did not mean to specifically suggest L-T classrooms were disruptive.
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2013 15:46     Subject: ludlow-taylor
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As far as I'm concerned, it's not about black or white, green or purple. Most parents, whether black, white, green or purple who want a good life for their kids do not want them in a school environment that's full of disruption that prevents learning. And most of us don't care if the source of that disruption is black, white, green or purple. As far as I'm concerned, it's about behavior. I don't give a damn about someone's race or income, I've seen bad behavior from all races and all income levels.

You are free to choose to view that as racist if you like, but that action of how you interpret it is entirely on your own part. Your choice, but I'd consider it a lot more productive and useful to instead focus on the behavior rather than crying racism and trying to change me from a the rhinoceros you think I am into the buffalo you'd maybe want me to be, neither of which is what I am or will be.


Sure, no one wants their child in a classroom full of disruption. And, from what I've seen, the classrooms at LT aren't full of disruption.

They are, however, full of black children -- and people here apparently assume a class full of black children must be full of disruption.
Yep, that's the part that bothers me about this conversation. No one wants their kid to endure a class full of disruption but I see a lot of assumptions being made across the board about low-income black children. Sad.
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2013 15:42     Subject: ludlow-taylor
Anonymous wrote:As far as I'm concerned, it's not about black or white, green or purple. Most parents, whether black, white, green or purple who want a good life for their kids do not want them in a school environment that's full of disruption that prevents learning. And most of us don't care if the source of that disruption is black, white, green or purple. As far as I'm concerned, it's about behavior. I don't give a damn about someone's race or income, I've seen bad behavior from all races and all income levels.

You are free to choose to view that as racist if you like, but that action of how you interpret it is entirely on your own part. Your choice, but I'd consider it a lot more productive and useful to instead focus on the behavior rather than crying racism and trying to change me from a the rhinoceros you think I am into the buffalo you'd maybe want me to be, neither of which is what I am or will be.


Sure, no one wants their child in a classroom full of disruption. And, from what I've seen, the classrooms at LT aren't full of disruption.

They are, however, full of black children -- and people here apparently assume a class full of black children must be full of disruption.
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2013 15:18     Subject: ludlow-taylor
Anonymous wrote:

Antonia above, er, the neighborhood is mostly white and affluent, the school almost entirely black and lower middle-class or poor from K up.

I'm lost, what are you advocating? You don't want many more middle-class IB families to get involved?

If LT is not going to become a bona fide neighborhood school, why not have it go charter and be done with it? How does your family benefit from the great majority of neighborhood whites with little kids running off to charters and privates?






Anonymous
Post 07/02/2013 15:05     Subject: ludlow-taylor
I am sick and tired of the sick and tired-azzes.
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2013 13:18     Subject: ludlow-taylor
Anonymous wrote:As far as I'm concerned, it's not about black or white, green or purple. Most parents, whether black, white, green or purple who want a good life for their kids do not want them in a school environment that's full of disruption that prevents learning. And most of us don't care if the source of that disruption is black, white, green or purple. As far as I'm concerned, it's about behavior. I don't give a damn about someone's race or income, I've seen bad behavior from all races and all income levels.


That might be true for you, but if you objectively read some of the posts in this thread, that is not the case for all.
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2013 13:08     Subject: ludlow-taylor
Anonymous wrote:As far as I'm concerned, it's not about black or white, green or purple. Most parents, whether black, white, green or purple who want a good life for their kids do not want them in a school environment that's full of disruption that prevents learning. And most of us don't care if the source of that disruption is black, white, green or purple. As far as I'm concerned, it's about behavior. I don't give a damn about someone's race or income, I've seen bad behavior from all races and all income levels.


This is a good and valid point. However, I have seen many a white parent (and teachers, black and white) give white disruptors - sometimes, frankly, arrogant little brats whose parents let kids run the show - the benefit of the doubt (well she's tired, well he's a boy, you know s-he has a little ADD) - but not give the same breaks to black children. (FYI, I am white.)
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2013 12:58     Subject: ludlow-taylor
As far as I'm concerned, it's not about black or white, green or purple. Most parents, whether black, white, green or purple who want a good life for their kids do not want them in a school environment that's full of disruption that prevents learning. And most of us don't care if the source of that disruption is black, white, green or purple. As far as I'm concerned, it's about behavior. I don't give a damn about someone's race or income, I've seen bad behavior from all races and all income levels.

You are free to choose to view that as racist if you like, but that action of how you interpret it is entirely on your own part. Your choice, but I'd consider it a lot more productive and useful to instead focus on the behavior rather than crying racism and trying to change me from a the rhinoceros you think I am into the buffalo you'd maybe want me to be, neither of which is what I am or will be.
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2013 12:42     Subject: ludlow-taylor
Anonymous wrote:As a Black parent with two children at Ludlow Taylor- This is Utter BS. If you have a problem with out of boundary children too bad. DC has always had this option. Which is great because we as parents can have more choices, if anything with an abundance of quality schools in the future this city can be a example of exceptional education for all people and backgrounds. Yes this Blog is a very racist but in the closet way. Problem is I know that there is ill will intentions- Most black people know how prejudice things are, even though some try to disguise it. Most of you do not want your children around so-called poor black kids. Quite frankly no one gives a two-s... about how comfortable you want to be on G street NE. DC is a very segrated town. It's very sad. I wish you in the closet prejudice people would put a face to your name. For those that assume Principal Cobbs is anti-white, sorry for the news flash but you guys may have a problem with communicating with Black people. Why is it that most of you assume everything must be catered to your specific wants and needs because you decided to gentrify into a black neighborhood and black city. So now we must go because you are here. Like many people that can afford too will send their child to private school. If you can not do that then you are on the same ecomonic level as any OOB child or parent at Ludlow. So it's best to starting to speaking and getting to know another instead of segregating into parents cliques. For the record my name is Antonia
Thanks, Antonia!