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Anonymous wrote:Mattress Firm is a money laundering scheme as are car washes.

Car washes???

Anonymous wrote:Mattress Firm is a money laundering scheme as are car washes.

Anonymous wrote:That Covid is fake

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Anonymous wrote:I think the long-term effects of Covid are much more serious than we are being told.

I don't think this is a conspiracy theory - we just don't know yet. I mean, is it a conspiracy theory if a longitudinal study shows in ten years that X% of people that suffered COVID will have permanent damage to their heart or lungs? Or something else? A lack of data is not a conspiracy theory.

No, I think there is more data than we are being told.

How could there be more data on long-term effects when we're only a year into the pandemic? I don't understand this.

There is more information than we are being told. What don't you understand about this?

Pick up a history book. Didn't you ever wonder why people didn't realize what seems obvious to you, far in the future? Didn't you ever study an event in history and wonder at the inability of the ordinary person to realize the full extent of whatever was occurring? For a lot of reasons, it is in nobody's best interest to neutrally present all known information about a negative or controversial event that can't be changed. This is true for every culture and society.

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Anonymous wrote:Not an anti vaxxer, but i'm also of the position that it is near impossible that vaccines don't have *some* permanent ill effects for *some* people. Whether it is one in a million that it causes autism, or other auto immune diseases, etc.... The claim that "we know vaccines are totally safe!" seems BS, because you can't claim the absence of things that have been studied. As in, if no one has ever studied whether, say, people who themselves had the MMR vaccine as kids are more likely to give birth to a kid with ASD or thyroid disease or whatever.... then it can't be ruled out.

DP. I think the vaccine-autism debate is a red herring. I suspect the real reason for the huge rise in autism and other developmental disorders is the widespread use of fertility treatments, often in situations that are high risk to start with (AMA, family history, etc). I don't think there's a conspiracy theory surrounding the issue, but I think there's a big push to avoid saying it.

I agree and thought I was the only person who took note of this. Every autistic child I know had a mom who did some kind of fertility treatment.

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Anonymous wrote:Not an anti vaxxer, but i'm also of the position that it is near impossible that vaccines don't have *some* permanent ill effects for *some* people. Whether it is one in a million that it causes autism, or other auto immune diseases, etc.... The claim that "we know vaccines are totally safe!" seems BS, because you can't claim the absence of things that have been studied. As in, if no one has ever studied whether, say, people who themselves had the MMR vaccine as kids are more likely to give birth to a kid with ASD or thyroid disease or whatever.... then it can't be ruled out.

DP. I think the vaccine-autism debate is a red herring. I suspect the real reason for the huge rise in autism and other developmental disorders is the widespread use of fertility treatments, often in situations that are high risk to start with (AMA, family history, etc). I don't think there's a conspiracy theory surrounding the issue, but I think there's a big push to avoid saying it.

I agree and thought I was the only person who took note of this. Every autistic child I know had a mom who did some kind of fertility treatment.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the long-term effects of Covid are much more serious than we are being told.

I don't think this is a conspiracy theory - we just don't know yet. I mean, is it a conspiracy theory if a longitudinal study shows in ten years that X% of people that suffered COVID will have permanent damage to their heart or lungs? Or something else? A lack of data is not a conspiracy theory.

No, I think there is more data than we are being told.

How could there be more data on long-term effects when we're only a year into the pandemic? I don't understand this.

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Anonymous wrote:Not an anti vaxxer, but i'm also of the position that it is near impossible that vaccines don't have *some* permanent ill effects for *some* people. Whether it is one in a million that it causes autism, or other auto immune diseases, etc.... The claim that "we know vaccines are totally safe!" seems BS, because you can't claim the absence of things that have been studied. As in, if no one has ever studied whether, say, people who themselves had the MMR vaccine as kids are more likely to give birth to a kid with ASD or thyroid disease or whatever.... then it can't be ruled out.

DP. I think the vaccine-autism debate is a red herring. I suspect the real reason for the huge rise in autism and other developmental disorders is the widespread use of fertility treatments, often in situations that are high risk to start with (AMA, family history, etc). I don't think there's a conspiracy theory surrounding the issue, but I think there's a big push to avoid saying it.

Anonymous wrote:EVERYTHING about COVID has been distorted and politicized. The severity the number of deaths who has it who has had it where it came from ... everything.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the long-term effects of Covid are much more serious than we are being told.

I don't think this is a conspiracy theory - we just don't know yet. I mean, is it a conspiracy theory if a longitudinal study shows in ten years that X% of people that suffered COVID will have permanent damage to their heart or lungs? Or something else? A lack of data is not a conspiracy theory.

No, I think there is more data than we are being told.

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Anonymous wrote:EVERYTHING about COVID has been distorted and politicized. The severity the number of deaths who has it who has had it where it came from ... everything.

Well, I'm going into my 4th week of Covid and I have never been this sick in my life. The severity has not been distorted. It feels like hell, and very odd and different from any illness I've had in the past.

I would love to believe that this is just a little flu, but as I said, I have never been this sick and it is not behaving the way other flus, etc. have behaved, and I am terrified.

Yet you’re not too sick to post here. Ok, we believe you.

I have been in bed or on my sofa for almost a month, not unconscious.

What, you think everybody with Covid is out cold? If anything, the hacking cough has me sleeping LESS than ever.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the long-term effects of Covid are much more serious than we are being told.

I’m worried about this. I had it a month ago, so am not yet in long haul territory, but I still have pretty debilitating symptoms (fatigue is the worst of them). Reading recently published articles in STAT, Scientific American, etc about long covid is not encouraging. Major hospitals are setting up clinics to treat people with long term symptoms.

Can you link to that article?

Here's one from Scientific American. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-problem-of-long-haul-covid/

I have an acquaintance who is a COVID nurse in VA. She says they are seeing a lot of strokes/heart attacks/blood clots that they believe are linked to COVID.

Just a note that the link is to an opinion piece.

As far as long term, they just didn't expect it but the medical professionals are aware of the long term impacts of pneumonia which is what a good portion of the people are suffering from who are diagnosed with Covid.

I am with a PP, and I said this in another thread, but by next year, I think the numbers from Covid will begin to be revised and the numbers will be lower. I am not disputing it is a serious illness that results in many deaths. I just believe that they way the deaths are recorded will be changed and the numbers will reflect the change.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, I'm going into my 4th week of Covid and I have never been this sick in my life. The severity has not been distorted. It feels like hell, and very odd and different from any illness I've had in the past.

I would love to believe that this is just a little flu, but as I said, I have never been this sick and it is not behaving the way other flus, etc. have behaved, and I am terrified.

I had it in late March and into April and this is how I describe it. It feels different, like it behaves differently. I am well aware it sounds nutty, but the aches and pains felt mystical or... something. Not normal.

I had something like this last December. I just could not put my finger on it regarding what it was. I was so confused I remember telling my husband that. No one else in the family caught It beyond a runny nose/low-grade fever. Just confusing all around at the time.

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Anonymous wrote:EVERYTHING about COVID has been distorted and politicized. The severity the number of deaths who has it who has had it where it came from ... everything.

Well, I'm going into my 4th week of Covid and I have never been this sick in my life. The severity has not been distorted. It feels like hell, and very odd and different from any illness I've had in the past.

I would love to believe that this is just a little flu, but as I said, I have never been this sick and it is not behaving the way other flus, etc. have behaved, and I am terrified.

Yet you’re not too sick to post here. Ok, we believe you.