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Anonymous wrote:Again - I honestly don't know why the constant arguing about this. We aren't making the decisions (although we can give our opinions to those making them). But in the end we'll have to live with what they decide or homeschool. Or move.

Not sure why posters seem intent on changing each other's minds. It seems futile to me. Take your opinions to the decision makers.

I only came to the thread to see if anyone actually has heard anything about maryland school's decision. I wish they would make an actual decision...

We can, and I am. And I am telling everybody I know to do so, too.

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Anonymous wrote:Do the people pushing for DL — be they teachers, staffers, parents, or whoever — honestly feel that DL is an adequate substitute for children? Self/driven adults seeking pro dev? Sure! But kids? Can you honestly say that? And at what age and for how many hours a day do you think this is true? Straight answers, please — no “it’s better th an nothing” or “we all have to sacrifice.” Really answer the question.

In normal times, no. In a pandemic, yes. And for as long as necessary because it is not possible to create the conditions listed as precautions.

DP, but really? You really think preventing COVID deaths is the only consideration in our society? Really?

Only, no. Top, yes. The death of a loved one impacts children emotionally, socially, educationally, and financially. Really.

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Anonymous wrote:Do the people pushing for DL — be they teachers, staffers, parents, or whoever — honestly feel that DL is an adequate substitute for children? Self/driven adults seeking pro dev? Sure! But kids? Can you honestly say that? And at what age and for how many hours a day do you think this is true? Straight answers, please — no “it’s better th an nothing” or “we all have to sacrifice.” Really answer the question.

In normal times, no. In a pandemic, yes. And for as long as necessary because it is not possible to create the conditions listed as precautions.

DP, but really? You really think preventing COVID deaths is the only consideration in our society? Really?

Only, no. Top, yes. The death of a loved one impacts children emotionally, socially, educationally, and financially. Really.

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Anonymous wrote:Do the people pushing for DL — be they teachers, staffers, parents, or whoever — honestly feel that DL is an adequate substitute for children? Self/driven adults seeking pro dev? Sure! But kids? Can you honestly say that? And at what age and for how many hours a day do you think this is true? Straight answers, please — no “it’s better th an nothing” or “we all have to sacrifice.” Really answer the question.

In normal times, no. In a pandemic, yes. And for as long as necessary because it is not possible to create the conditions listed as precautions.

Covid is not the only public-health consideration.

How much are we forcing our children to sacrifice, for whom? And are the benefits worth the costs (again, for whom)? Because at this point, the costs for our children look pretty considerable.

The costs of the shutdown are enormous. But the question is, how much death are you willing to tolerate? In New York City from March 11 to May 2 they recorded 32,000 deaths total, which is 24,000 more than they would normally expect during that time period, 19,000 of which were either laboratory confirmed COVID-19 deaths or deaths ruled to be probable COVID deaths. That's a lot of death in less than a month. Yes, they are mostly not children, but they are still valuable lives lost.

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Anonymous wrote:Do the people pushing for DL — be they teachers, staffers, parents, or whoever — honestly feel that DL is an adequate substitute for children? Self/driven adults seeking pro dev? Sure! But kids? Can you honestly say that? And at what age and for how many hours a day do you think this is true? Straight answers, please — no “it’s better th an nothing” or “we all have to sacrifice.” Really answer the question.

In normal times, no. In a pandemic, yes. And for as long as necessary because it is not possible to create the conditions listed as precautions.

DP, but really? You really think preventing COVID deaths is the only consideration in our society? Really?

Anonymous wrote:Again - I honestly don't know why the constant arguing about this. We aren't making the decisions (although we can give our opinions to those making them). But in the end we'll have to live with what they decide or homeschool. Or move.

Not sure why posters seem intent on changing each other's minds. It seems futile to me. Take your opinions to the decision makers.

I only came to the thread to see if anyone actually has heard anything about maryland school's decision. I wish they would make an actual decision...

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Anonymous wrote:Do the people pushing for DL — be they teachers, staffers, parents, or whoever — honestly feel that DL is an adequate substitute for children? Self/driven adults seeking pro dev? Sure! But kids? Can you honestly say that? And at what age and for how many hours a day do you think this is true? Straight answers, please — no “it’s better th an nothing” or “we all have to sacrifice.” Really answer the question.

In normal times, no. In a pandemic, yes. And for as long as necessary because it is not possible to create the conditions listed as precautions.

Covid is not the only public-health consideration.

How much are we forcing our children to sacrifice, for whom? And are the benefits worth the costs (again, for whom)? Because at this point, the costs for our children look pretty considerable.

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Anonymous wrote:Do the people pushing for DL — be they teachers, staffers, parents, or whoever — honestly feel that DL is an adequate substitute for children? Self/driven adults seeking pro dev? Sure! But kids? Can you honestly say that? And at what age and for how many hours a day do you think this is true? Straight answers, please — no “it’s better th an nothing” or “we all have to sacrifice.” Really answer the question.

In normal times, no. In a pandemic, yes. And for as long as necessary because it is not possible to create the conditions listed as precautions.

Covid is not the only public-health consideration.

How much are we forcing our children to sacrifice, for whom? And are the benefits worth the costs (again, for whom)? Because at this point, the costs for our children look pretty considerable.

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Anonymous wrote:Do the people pushing for DL — be they teachers, staffers, parents, or whoever — honestly feel that DL is an adequate substitute for children? Self/driven adults seeking pro dev? Sure! But kids? Can you honestly say that? And at what age and for how many hours a day do you think this is true? Straight answers, please — no “it’s better th an nothing” or “we all have to sacrifice.” Really answer the question.

In normal times, no. In a pandemic, yes. And for as long as necessary because it is not possible to create the conditions listed as precautions.

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Anonymous wrote:Do the people pushing for DL — be they teachers, staffers, parents, or whoever — honestly feel that DL is an adequate substitute for children? Self/driven adults seeking pro dev? Sure! But kids? Can you honestly say that? And at what age and for how many hours a day do you think this is true? Straight answers, please — no “it’s better th an nothing” or “we all have to sacrifice.” Really answer the question.

In normal times, no. In a pandemic, yes. And for as long as necessary because it is not possible to create the conditions listed as precautions.

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Anonymous wrote:Do the people pushing for DL — be they teachers, staffers, parents, or whoever — honestly feel that DL is an adequate substitute for children? Self/driven adults seeking pro dev? Sure! But kids? Can you honestly say that? And at what age and for how many hours a day do you think this is true? Straight answers, please — no “it’s better th an nothing” or “we all have to sacrifice.” Really answer the question.

In normal times, no. In a pandemic, yes. And for as long as necessary because it is not possible to create the conditions listed as precautions.

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Anonymous wrote:No inside info, but until there’s a vaccine, 100% back in the classroom will not happen. There’s just not enough space, teachers or busses. No school system was designed to support the constraints that will be in place until a vaccine is widely available.

Sorry to be a down, I just don’t think it’s going to happen.

+1. I recently read the updated MD state superintendent report which analyzed how buses would work w/respect to the CDC guidelines. The conclusion was, that complying with CDC guidelines meant each bus holding 77 students would now only be able to carry 8.

The options for school presented are 1 day/week, 2/day a week or A/B weeks. There is no discussion at all of a full time normal return to school. All of society needs to realize this and adjust accordingly -- it's not just about what parents will do. All businesses and activities that interact with kids or parents of kids (which is basically every place) need to reconfigure to support that.

That means things like -- flexible work policies that include working form home at a vastly extended range of hours.

Mmhmm. Call my medical job and tell them this. Im sure they'll oblige.

Our pediatrician’s office still has 3/4 of the staff working from home. My gastroenterologist is working from home.

Thats called a private office dear. They can do what they want. Thats not what i do. They're not at home seeing urgent or emergent patients. Please don't fool yourself that everything can be done from home. And I promise you their income is reflecting their wfh situation. Insurances dont pay the same for telephone and video visits

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No inside info, but until there’s a vaccine, 100% back in the classroom will not happen. There’s just not enough space, teachers or busses. No school system was designed to support the constraints that will be in place until a vaccine is widely available.

Sorry to be a down, I just don’t think it’s going to happen.

+1. I recently read the updated MD state superintendent report which analyzed how buses would work w/respect to the CDC guidelines. The conclusion was, that complying with CDC guidelines meant each bus holding 77 students would now only be able to carry 8.

The options for school presented are 1 day/week, 2/day a week or A/B weeks. There is no discussion at all of a full time normal return to school. All of society needs to realize this and adjust accordingly -- it's not just about what parents will do. All businesses and activities that interact with kids or parents of kids (which is basically every place) need to reconfigure to support that.

That means things like -- flexible work policies that include working form home at a vastly extended range of hours.

Mmhmm. Call my medical job and tell them this. Im sure they'll oblige.

Our pediatrician’s office still has 3/4 of the staff working from home. My gastroenterologist is working from home.

Anonymous wrote:Do the people pushing for DL — be they teachers, staffers, parents, or whoever — honestly feel that DL is an adequate substitute for children? Self/driven adults seeking pro dev? Sure! But kids? Can you honestly say that? And at what age and for how many hours a day do you think this is true? Straight answers, please — no “it’s better th an nothing” or “we all have to sacrifice.” Really answer the question.