Anonymous wrote:The CDC well and truly sucks.

They are blowing this.

CDC used to be great, but they've been gutted - only one person to blame here.

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Anonymous wrote:The CDC well and truly sucks.

They are blowing this.

I just read a profile of the head of the CDC, and he's Trump appointee hack with a really sordid history when it comes to infectious disease. The CDC is full of brilliant scientists and doctors doing their best, but the guy at the top seems to be just what you'd expect of a Trump official.

And he gave an embarrassing “dear leader” plug at the press conference yesterday. I am a physician and have talked with many colleagues who are aghast at how quickly trust in and respect for the cdc has plummeted in the estimation of the medical community. Decades of esteem squandered.

I am concerned about this Rockville Village home and how this may mimic what is happening in Seattle. My husband (a doc) says Seattle's weather is ideal for the spread of the virus (damp and cold). Hoping that is the reason and not the fact that a breeding ground of a nursing home helped spread the disease. There are many elderly people in that home as well as some people going through rehab. If the gathering in February took place in the main building, that is where the elderly and rehab patients are...and many visitors coming and going daily.

I spent a lot of time there when my aunt was there for rehab after her stroke a few years ago. The care there is HORRIBLE. The workers were very negligent. I went to visit my aunt at 2 pm one day, and she was STILL IN BED. Her lunch was sitting on a tray UNTOUCHED. My aunt was a stroke rehab patient with dementia and very underweight/undernourished. The staff there was so overworked, nobody got decent care. My aunt was so upset because she wanted to get out of bed, but nobody came to help her. And when I asked the staff about it, they when on immediate defense and said that she didn't want to get out which is NOT AN EXCUSE when dealing with a dementia patient. She left that hell hole in worse condition than when she entered with multiple bedsores and an injury of unknown origin. When she was returned to her home (an assisted living facility), they suspected ABUSE. I would not doubt it.

With attitudes like that from staff, you can imagine what else they don't do well..like sanitary practices. I would be very concerned if I had a loved one there or visited recently. I suspect there will be a similar situation here that happened in Seattle. I hope I am wrong.

Anonymous wrote:The CDC well and truly sucks.

They are blowing this.

I just read a profile of the head of the CDC, and he's Trump appointee hack with a really sordid history when it comes to infectious disease. The CDC is full of brilliant scientists and doctors doing their best, but the guy at the top seems to be just what you'd expect of a Trump official.

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Anonymous wrote:So kids were there after all! Even if one.. which school????


So sorry for everyone exposed..

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/health/maryland-officials-coronavirus-risk-at-retirement-community/2233549/

Maryland's health department on Friday announced a potential risk of exposure to the new coronavirus at a retirement community in Rockville.

One of the three people who has been confirmed in Maryland to have the COVID-19 virus attended at gathering at The Village at Rockville Feb. 28, Gov. Larry Hogan said at a news conference.

The time period of risk of exposure was from noon to 6 p.m. that day, the governor said. Between 70 and 100 people who attended the event may be at some risk for acquiring COVID-19, Hogan said.

A woman whose 89-year-old father lives at the retirement community said she and her 12-year-old daughter were visiting Friday evening when they heard Hogan warn of the possible risk on the news.

“I’m in my father’s room, he’s eating his dinner, he’s a double amputee, he’s 89 years old,” Peggy Weldon said. “And on comes Gov. Hogan to make the announcement. I’m sitting there with my 12-year-old daughter, and we hear Gov. Hogan say, ‘The Villages at Rockville.’ I go and talk to the nurse staff. They weren’t aware of it. I told them. I said, ‘You folks need to have masks.’”

I am the PP who mentioned that Robert frost middle school has an after school club where students visit the residents. I just found out that they did go this past Wednesday. So more kids are exposed.

The event was on a Sunday. The school went on Wednesday. Depends on where they were in the place and who gets sick.

Anonymous wrote:So kids were there after all! Even if one.. which school????


So sorry for everyone exposed..

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/health/maryland-officials-coronavirus-risk-at-retirement-community/2233549/

Maryland's health department on Friday announced a potential risk of exposure to the new coronavirus at a retirement community in Rockville.

One of the three people who has been confirmed in Maryland to have the COVID-19 virus attended at gathering at The Village at Rockville Feb. 28, Gov. Larry Hogan said at a news conference.

The time period of risk of exposure was from noon to 6 p.m. that day, the governor said. Between 70 and 100 people who attended the event may be at some risk for acquiring COVID-19, Hogan said.

A woman whose 89-year-old father lives at the retirement community said she and her 12-year-old daughter were visiting Friday evening when they heard Hogan warn of the possible risk on the news.

“I’m in my father’s room, he’s eating his dinner, he’s a double amputee, he’s 89 years old,” Peggy Weldon said. “And on comes Gov. Hogan to make the announcement. I’m sitting there with my 12-year-old daughter, and we hear Gov. Hogan say, ‘The Villages at Rockville.’ I go and talk to the nurse staff. They weren’t aware of it. I told them. I said, ‘You folks need to have masks.’”

I am the PP who mentioned that Robert frost middle school has an after school club where students visit the residents. I just found out that they did go this past Wednesday. So more kids are exposed.

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It's on their website, updated March 5 2020

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/specific-groups/high-risk-complications.html

What to do if you are at higher risk:
Stay at home as much as possible.
Make sure you have access to several weeks of medications and supplies in case you need to stay home for prolonged periods of time.
When you go out in public, keep away from others who are sick, limit close contact and wash your hands often.
Avoid crowds.
Stay up to date on CDC Travel Health Notices.

The don't define older people.

Older adults and people who have severe chronic medical conditions like heart, lung or kidney disease seem to be at higher risk for more serious COVID-19 illness. Early data suggest older people are twice as likely to have serious COVID-19 illness.

I don't know what they are basing that "twice as likely to have serious COVID-19 illness though. I don't think that is accurate.

This is what I have seen for fatality rates by age:

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Help me with my math.

Compared with people in their 40s, this virus is 3x as severe for those in their 50s, 9x as severe for people in their 60s, 20x as severe for people in their 80s, and 30x as severe for people in their 80s?

Anonymous wrote:all night. You are wrong about worrying about where people visited. That ship has sailed. Now we "all need to prepare for major disruptions to life" in our nation.

Take a look at Westchester, NY. Two days ago, one man tested positive. Now we have 34. All traced back to him, but really, who cares. The only thing that is remarkable is that these people actually got the opportunity to be tested.

They are traced back to him because they only tested people traced back to him.

The CDC well and truly sucks.

They are blowing this.

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Anonymous wrote:So Really, when do MoCo folks have to be ready to hold up in our houses? 1 week? 2? Best guesses please

The CDC is recommending that seniors 60+ and those with medical conditions stay home and avoid crowds as much as possible starting now.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/06/health/coronavirus-older-people-social-distancing/index.html

From https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/health/maryland-officials-coronavirus-risk-at-retirement-community/2233549/:
Anyone who attended the gathering between noon and 6 p.m. should watch for symptoms like fever, cold-like symptoms, coughing, difficulty breathing and shortness of breath until March 13. They should check their temperature twice a day. Anyone who develops symptoms should contact their health care provider and health department to get instructions about testing and care.

I read this in the CNN article, but where does the CDC define "older people" as 60+. That's a lot of working people, and they will need more than a newspaper article to justifying staying out of work.

It's on their website, updated March 5 2020

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/specific-groups/high-risk-complications.html

What to do if you are at higher risk:
Stay at home as much as possible.
Make sure you have access to several weeks of medications and supplies in case you need to stay home for prolonged periods of time.
When you go out in public, keep away from others who are sick, limit close contact and wash your hands often.
Avoid crowds.
Stay up to date on CDC Travel Health Notices.

The don't define older people.

Older adults and people who have severe chronic medical conditions like heart, lung or kidney disease seem to be at higher risk for more serious COVID-19 illness. Early data suggest older people are twice as likely to have serious COVID-19 illness.

I don't know what they are basing that "twice as likely to have serious COVID-19 illness though. I don't think that is accurate.

Why those people who came in contact with the infected people while at the party are not required to. self isolate?? They werepotentially exposed to the virus . Isn't this a recommendation or requirement to protect the community??? Other states are not taking chances , why do we?



The CDC is recommending that seniors 60+ and those with medical conditions stay home and avoid crowds as much as possible starting now.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/06/health/coronavirus-older-people-social-distancing/index.html

From https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/health/maryland-officials-coronavirus-risk-at-retirement-community/2233549/:
Anyone who attended the gathering between noon and 6 p.m. should watch for symptoms like fever, cold-like symptoms, coughing, difficulty breathing and shortness of breath until March 13. They should check their temperature twice a day. Anyone who develops symptoms should contact their health care provider and health department to get instructions about testing and care.