Anonymous wrote:Even if it was used to obtain the original FISA warrant (it was, but it was one of MANY touch points to obtain the warrant,) the warrant was granted by a (GOP appointed) Federal Judge. Had nothing come of it, then poof, it goes away. However, something did come of it. Not once, not twice, but three times, the warrant was extended but (GOP appointed) federal judges under supervision from (Trump appointed DAG) Rosenstein.

That extension can only happen if there a fruit being born from the warrant as adjudicated by the (GOP appointed) judges.

So are you saying that Rosenstein and the GOP judges are in on it too?

But the FBI withheld from the American public and Congress, until months later, that Steele had been paid to find his dirt on Trump by a firm doing political opposition research for the Democratic Party and for Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton, and that Steele himself harbored hatred for Trump.

If the FBI knew of his media contacts and the concerns about the reliability of his dossier before seeking the warrant, it would constitute a serious breach of FISA regulations and the trust that the FISA court places in the FBI.

That’s because the FBI has an obligation to certify to the court before it approves FISA warrants that its evidence is verified, and to alert the judges to any flaws in its evidence or information that suggest the target might be innocent.

We now know the FBI used an article from Yahoo News as independent corroboration for the Steele dossier when, in fact, Steele had talked to the news outlet.

If the FBI knew Steele had that media contact before it submitted the article, it likely would be guilty of circular intelligence reporting, a forbidden tactic in which two pieces of evidence are portrayed as independent corroboration when, in fact, they originated from the same source.

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Funding the dossier alone is not the issue here, funding it and then using it as the basis for FISA warrants to undermine a political opponent's election campaign is the issue. The RNC didn't do this, the Democrats did.

It didn't come out til right before the inaugural - it wasn't used to undermine a political election campaign at all. It was one of several pieces of a COUNTERINTELLIGENCE INVESTIGATION because people on the Trump campaign were working with Russians and were surveilled by FiveEyes and our IC. Chicken and egg, don't conspire with Russians and you won't be under surveillance.

Or, it was used as an excuse for our intelligence to have been illegally surveilling members of the opposition party.

And, it did come out before the election.
October 31, 2016: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/10/veteran-spy-gave-fbi-info-alleging-russian-operation-cultivate-donald-trump/

I'll say it again.......
Either our intelligence agencies were "in on" the advancing of false reporting regarding the dossier, or they were duped by Russian disinformation.
Which is it? Either one is not good.

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Funding the dossier alone is not the issue here, funding it and then using it as the basis for FISA warrants to undermine a political opponent's election campaign is the issue. The RNC didn't do this, the Democrats did.

It didn't come out til right before the inaugural - it wasn't used to undermine a political election campaign at all. It was one of several pieces of a COUNTERINTELLIGENCE INVESTIGATION because people on the Trump campaign were working with Russians and were surveilled by FiveEyes and our IC. Chicken and egg, don't conspire with Russians and you won't be under surveillance.

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Funding the dossier alone is not the issue here, funding it and then using it as the basis for FISA warrants to undermine a political opponent's election campaign is the issue. The RNC didn't do this, the Democrats did.

Anonymous wrote:Fund raising on the left over the Mueller report - crickets...

Fund raising on the left over the silent coup - crickets...

Fund raising on the right over no collusion - RAGE!

Anonymous wrote: Your angry feelings are clouding your ability to think critically and logically.

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Anonymous wrote:Enough. The coup was Trump working with the Russians (as Rudy discussed at length yesterday) to steal the election.

Wrong.

The coup was the spying on then candidate Trump then using the fake dossier to launch the Mueller investigation in an orchestrated attempt to have him removed from office.

There was no Russian collusion so now Barr can start to investigate the real treason by the Obama administration.

You are clueless that the country isn’t behind the so called coup. Get out of your Faux news trap. A big majority of Americans aren’t with Trump. And a good number of cult 45 has gotten wiser and has deserted him. His approval has never crossed 45% and now is on its way down after Mueller report.

You can live in your delusions but America isn’t with the conman. The more he tries to stage a fake coup lie the more he is gonna lose support of independents. He started with negative 3 million and has dug a big hole since then. You do know he can’t win with just the fraud party voters , right?

The former Obama administration is going to be facing an investigation into the origins of their attempted coup to unseat an elected President.

Simply, you cannot falsify evidence as the basis for obtaining warrants to spy on political opponents nor use that false evidence as the basis for investigating someone in an attempt to impeach them.

We are still a nation of laws, not feelings- so this level of treason will need to be fully investigated.

That's not an attempted coup. Maybe it would be if Pence instigated it, but he didn't. Not only are we still a nation of laws, we are also a nation of dictionaries and proper definitions, not your angry feelings

Democrats paid for a fake dossier that got passed to our intelligence agencies in order to green light the FISA warrant to spy on the opposing candidate.

When they lost, they then used that same fake dossier to launch a two year investigation to oust a siting President.

It was an attempted coup and it was treason.


https://twitter.com/hashtag/spygate?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Ehashtag

The stupid is so strong. Your sources are twitter and YouTube. Stable geniuses, the lot of you.

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Anonymous wrote:Enough. The coup was Trump working with the Russians (as Rudy discussed at length yesterday) to steal the election.

Wrong.

The coup was the spying on then candidate Trump then using the fake dossier to launch the Mueller investigation in an orchestrated attempt to have him removed from office.

There was no Russian collusion so now Barr can start to investigate the real treason by the Obama administration.

You are clueless that the country isn’t behind the so called coup. Get out of your Faux news trap. A big majority of Americans aren’t with Trump. And a good number of cult 45 has gotten wiser and has deserted him. His approval has never crossed 45% and now is on its way down after Mueller report.

You can live in your delusions but America isn’t with the conman. The more he tries to stage a fake coup lie the more he is gonna lose support of independents. He started with negative 3 million and has dug a big hole since then. You do know he can’t win with just the fraud party voters , right?

The former Obama administration is going to be facing an investigation into the origins of their attempted coup to unseat an elected President.

Simply, you cannot falsify evidence as the basis for obtaining warrants to spy on political opponents nor use that false evidence as the basis for investigating someone in an attempt to impeach them.

We are still a nation of laws, not feelings- so this level of treason will need to be fully investigated.

That's not an attempted coup. Maybe it would be if Pence instigated it, but he didn't. Not only are we still a nation of laws, we are also a nation of dictionaries and proper definitions, not your angry feelings

Democrats paid for a fake dossier that got passed to our intelligence agencies in order to green light the FISA warrant to spy on the opposing candidate.

When they lost, they then used that same fake dossier to launch a two year investigation to oust a siting President.

It was an attempted coup and it was treason.


https://twitter.com/hashtag/spygate?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Ehashtag

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Anonymous wrote:Enough. The coup was Trump working with the Russians (as Rudy discussed at length yesterday) to steal the election.

Wrong.

The coup was the spying on then candidate Trump then using the fake dossier to launch the Mueller investigation in an orchestrated attempt to have him removed from office.

There was no Russian collusion so now Barr can start to investigate the real treason by the Obama administration.

You are clueless that the country isn’t behind the so called coup. Get out of your Faux news trap. A big majority of Americans aren’t with Trump. And a good number of cult 45 has gotten wiser and has deserted him. His approval has never crossed 45% and now is on its way down after Mueller report.

You can live in your delusions but America isn’t with the conman. The more he tries to stage a fake coup lie the more he is gonna lose support of independents. He started with negative 3 million and has dug a big hole since then. You do know he can’t win with just the fraud party voters , right?

The former Obama administration is going to be facing an investigation into the origins of their attempted coup to unseat an elected President.

Simply, you cannot falsify evidence as the basis for obtaining warrants to spy on political opponents nor use that false evidence as the basis for investigating someone in an attempt to impeach them.

We are still a nation of laws, not feelings- so this level of treason will need to be fully investigated.

That's not an attempted coup. Maybe it would be if Pence instigated it, but he didn't. Not only are we still a nation of laws, we are also a nation of dictionaries and proper definitions, not your angry feelings

Democrats paid for a fake dossier that got passed to our intelligence agencies in order to green light the FISA warrant to spy on the opposing candidate.

When they lost, they then used that same fake dossier to launch a two year investigation to oust a siting President.

It was an attempted coup and it was treason.


https://twitter.com/hashtag/spygate?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Ehashtag

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Anonymous wrote:Enough. The coup was Trump working with the Russians (as Rudy discussed at length yesterday) to steal the election.

Wrong.

The coup was the spying on then candidate Trump then using the fake dossier to launch the Mueller investigation in an orchestrated attempt to have him removed from office.

There was no Russian collusion so now Barr can start to investigate the real treason by the Obama administration.

You are clueless that the country isn’t behind the so called coup. Get out of your Faux news trap. A big majority of Americans aren’t with Trump. And a good number of cult 45 has gotten wiser and has deserted him. His approval has never crossed 45% and now is on its way down after Mueller report.

You can live in your delusions but America isn’t with the conman. The more he tries to stage a fake coup lie the more he is gonna lose support of independents. He started with negative 3 million and has dug a big hole since then. You do know he can’t win with just the fraud party voters , right?

The former Obama administration is going to be facing an investigation into the origins of their attempted coup to unseat an elected President.

Simply, you cannot falsify evidence as the basis for obtaining warrants to spy on political opponents nor use that false evidence as the basis for investigating someone in an attempt to impeach them.

We are still a nation of laws, not feelings- so this level of treason will need to be fully investigated.

That's not an attempted coup. Maybe it would be if Pence instigated it, but he didn't. Not only are we still a nation of laws, we are also a nation of dictionaries and proper definitions, not your angry feelings

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Anonymous wrote:Enough. The coup was Trump working with the Russians (as Rudy discussed at length yesterday) to steal the election.

Wrong.

The coup was the spying on then candidate Trump then using the fake dossier to launch the Mueller investigation in an orchestrated attempt to have him removed from office.

There was no Russian collusion so now Barr can start to investigate the real treason by the Obama administration.

You are clueless that the country isn’t behind the so called coup. Get out of your Faux news trap. A big majority of Americans aren’t with Trump. And a good number of cult 45 has gotten wiser and has deserted him. His approval has never crossed 45% and now is on its way down after Mueller report.

You can live in your delusions but America isn’t with the conman. The more he tries to stage a fake coup lie the more he is gonna lose support of independents. He started with negative 3 million and has dug a big hole since then. You do know he can’t win with just the fraud party voters , right?

The former Obama administration is going to be facing an investigation into the origins of their attempted coup to unseat an elected President.

Simply, you cannot falsify evidence as the basis for obtaining warrants to spy on political opponents nor use that false evidence as the basis for investigating someone in an attempt to impeach them.

We are still a nation of laws, not feelings- so this level of treason will need to be fully investigated.

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Anonymous wrote:Enough. The coup was Trump working with the Russians (as Rudy discussed at length yesterday) to steal the election.

Wrong.

The coup was the spying on then candidate Trump then using the fake dossier to launch the Mueller investigation in an orchestrated attempt to have him removed from office.

There was no Russian collusion so now Barr can start to investigate the real treason by the Obama administration.

You are clueless that the country isn’t behind the so called coup. Get out of your Faux news trap. A big majority of Americans aren’t with Trump. And a good number of cult 45 has gotten wiser and has deserted him. His approval has never crossed 45% and now is on its way down after Mueller report.

You can live in your delusions but America isn’t with the conman. The more he tries to stage a fake coup lie the more he is gonna lose support of independents. He started with negative 3 million and has dug a big hole since then. You do know he can’t win with just the fraud party voters , right?

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Anonymous wrote:Enough. The coup was Trump working with the Russians (as Rudy discussed at length yesterday) to steal the election.

Wrong.

The coup was the spying on then candidate Trump then using the fake dossier to launch the Mueller investigation in an orchestrated attempt to have him removed from office.

There was no Russian collusion so now Barr can start to investigate the real treason by the Obama administration.

Ridiculous.

Nope. This was all orchestrated, first the FISA warrants to spy an opposing candidate, then the made up dossier funded by Clinton that was later used to launch the Mueller investigation in hopes for ousting a sitting President. Time to find out just how high up this went in the previous administration.

Barr discussing an investigation into the origins of spying by the previous administration.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKJ_g8tei0A

You understand that the dossier was originally funded by the RNC, right? You do know this don't you?

Funding the dossier alone is not the issue here, funding it and then using it as the basis for FISA warrants to undermine a political opponent's election campaign is the issue. The RNC didn't do this, the Democrats did.

So wait, tell me again who funded it?

As previous posters have already noted, it was funded initially by the RNC but they walked away from it, it was then offered by Fusion GPS to the Clinton campaign who then continued to fund it. Again, funding it alone is not the issue. I am sure there are plenty of oppo research out there that was funded by whoever. This is certainly not the only oppo research that was ever funded. The issue is that it was funded by the Clinton campaign *AND* then used as the basis of a FISA warrant against a political opponent.

Did they walk away from it before or after Trump won the primary?

As previous posters have noted time and again, this was not the basis for the FISA warrant, but you refuse to believe that, too.

Fusion had been hired to get information on Trump during the primaries by a Republican media firm, Washington Free Beacon. When Trump became the Republican nominee, the Clinton campaign and the Democratic Party began picking up the tab for the Fusion research. Fusion owner Glenn Simpson hired Steele, a Russia expert, to gather information from his sources in Russia.