Anonymous wrote:Key was like, no move to ASFS. APS said, ok, try Barcroft. Key is like, wait, what??
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So now that the Superintendent's proposed CIP calls for tearing down the Henry building in a few years, shouldn't we be including the Montessori school in this planning process? If not, what are we doing with that program? Montessori to Nottingham?
That could perhaps be an idea!!! Perhaps Nottingham could stay neighborhood, but with a smaller attendance zone, and add Montessori. I know it didn't work out well at Drew, but I think there was a different dynamic there. It is worth exploring. Many Montessori parents have happily traveled to Discovery and Jamestown for a while, and have hoped to get a Montessori spot there, so Nottingham is not further. I'm not sure, but it should be looked at.
No. The problem wasn't due to a specific dynamic at Drew.
Montessori is a completely different approach to education and does not even align with the K-5/6-8/9-12 structure of our schools. I'm not a Montessori person, nor a particular fan of Arlington's Montessori community; but I still say, if we're going to have Montessori, it needs to have its own building. So give it all of Nottingham, or give it none of Nottingham. No more programs within neighborhood elementary schools! One or the other, period! It's problematic enough in regards to equitable access in middle and high school.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
From outward appearances, it seems to me that Tara natrass only cares about option schools insofar as they can help integrate schools in terms of SES. Otherwise I think she is hostile towards them, probably for the simple fact that they tend to bunch motivated, involved parents together, instead of balancing out less involved parents who either can't or won't get very involved in their child's education. I think she'd happily kill most option programs.
No, she comes from a school system that has used option schools in precisely that way. It makes sense and is really the justification for them to exist in today's climate. Otherwise, they serve as publicly funded private schools. I am an option school parent btw.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
From outward appearances, it seems to me that Tara natrass only cares about option schools insofar as they can help integrate schools in terms of SES. Otherwise I think she is hostile towards them, probably for the simple fact that they tend to bunch motivated, involved parents together, instead of balancing out less involved parents who either can't or won't get very involved in their child's education. I think she'd happily kill most option programs.
No, she comes from a school system that has used option schools in precisely that way. It makes sense and is really the justification for them to exist in today's climate. Otherwise, they serve as publicly funded private schools. I am an option school parent btw.
Anonymous wrote:
From outward appearances, it seems to me that Tara natrass only cares about option schools insofar as they can help integrate schools in terms of SES. Otherwise I think she is hostile towards them, probably for the simple fact that they tend to bunch motivated, involved parents together, instead of balancing out less involved parents who either can't or won't get very involved in their child's education. I think she'd happily kill most option programs.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So now that the Superintendent's proposed CIP calls for tearing down the Henry building in a few years, shouldn't we be including the Montessori school in this planning process? If not, what are we doing with that program? Montessori to Nottingham?
That could perhaps be an idea!!! Perhaps Nottingham could stay neighborhood, but with a smaller attendance zone, and add Montessori. I know it didn't work out well at Drew, but I think there was a different dynamic there. It is worth exploring. Many Montessori parents have happily traveled to Discovery and Jamestown for a while, and have hoped to get a Montessori spot there, so Nottingham is not further. I'm not sure, but it should be looked at.
How big is the Nottingham building? The Montessori school will be about 500 kids at that point. Could you fit neighborhood kids in addition to that? I don't see them going back to a hybrid set up.
APS has said no more hybrid schools. I don’t know where you put it if they decide to tear down Henry. It also seems like they aren’t budgeting for having to build another school for it. They know they will need a new neighborhood school around 2025 but that will be needed for neighborhood seats. To build two new schools seems like a stretch with all of the other building projects.
This is where the AB needs to take a serious look at all of the option programs and decide if each one is worth continuing. And I would bet that once it is time to move Montessori again the NW Quadrant schools will again be bursting at the seams.
From outward appearances, it seems to me that Tara natrass only cares about option schools insofar as they can help integrate schools in terms of SES. Otherwise I think she is hostile towards them, probably for the simple fact that they tend to bunch motivated, involved parents together, instead of balancing out less involved parents who either can't or won't get very involved in their child's education. I think she'd happily kill most option programs.
No, she comes from a school system that has used option schools in precisely that way. It makes sense and is really the justification for them to exist in today's climate. Otherwise, they serve as publicly funded private schools. I am an option school parent btw.
Interesting. Does she live in north or south Arlington?
North. Discovery.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So now that the Superintendent's proposed CIP calls for tearing down the Henry building in a few years, shouldn't we be including the Montessori school in this planning process? If not, what are we doing with that program? Montessori to Nottingham?
That could perhaps be an idea!!! Perhaps Nottingham could stay neighborhood, but with a smaller attendance zone, and add Montessori. I know it didn't work out well at Drew, but I think there was a different dynamic there. It is worth exploring. Many Montessori parents have happily traveled to Discovery and Jamestown for a while, and have hoped to get a Montessori spot there, so Nottingham is not further. I'm not sure, but it should be looked at.
How big is the Nottingham building? The Montessori school will be about 500 kids at that point. Could you fit neighborhood kids in addition to that? I don't see them going back to a hybrid set up.
APS has said no more hybrid schools. I don’t know where you put it if they decide to tear down Henry. It also seems like they aren’t budgeting for having to build another school for it. They know they will need a new neighborhood school around 2025 but that will be needed for neighborhood seats. To build two new schools seems like a stretch with all of the other building projects.
This is where the AB needs to take a serious look at all of the option programs and decide if each one is worth continuing. And I would bet that once it is time to move Montessori again the NW Quadrant schools will again be bursting at the seams.
From outward appearances, it seems to me that Tara natrass only cares about option schools insofar as they can help integrate schools in terms of SES. Otherwise I think she is hostile towards them, probably for the simple fact that they tend to bunch motivated, involved parents together, instead of balancing out less involved parents who either can't or won't get very involved in their child's education. I think she'd happily kill most option programs.
No, she comes from a school system that has used option schools in precisely that way. It makes sense and is really the justification for them to exist in today's climate. Otherwise, they serve as publicly funded private schools. I am an option school parent btw.
Interesting. Does she live in north or south Arlington?
I should have guessed that the unelected official charged with eliminating achievement gaps would pick the toniest north Arlington enclave with the nicest newest school and zero diversity for her own family.
North. Discovery.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So now that the Superintendent's proposed CIP calls for tearing down the Henry building in a few years, shouldn't we be including the Montessori school in this planning process? If not, what are we doing with that program? Montessori to Nottingham?
That could perhaps be an idea!!! Perhaps Nottingham could stay neighborhood, but with a smaller attendance zone, and add Montessori. I know it didn't work out well at Drew, but I think there was a different dynamic there. It is worth exploring. Many Montessori parents have happily traveled to Discovery and Jamestown for a while, and have hoped to get a Montessori spot there, so Nottingham is not further. I'm not sure, but it should be looked at.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Always interesting to look at the data. Over twice as many kids in South Arlington schools transfer out of their home school than North. And the top three feeders to ATS are from the schools closest to ATS. I’d like to see more of the options in South Arlington to strategically break up pockets of extreme ED and drive socioeconomic diversity. By having the options closer together, it may be possible to share buses so that buses pick up at fewer stops, then drop off at more than one school (could stagger start times).
Carlin Springs - new home for Claremont Immersion (2nd largest number of transfers out countywide, open larger building that is highly walkable and use less walkable building for option)
ATS - new home for Key Immersion (closer to Spanish speakers, more central, less walkable)
Campbell - EL
Barcroft - new home for ATS (3rd highest transfers out in county, brings a high-performing school South and may be more convenient for SA families)
Henry - new Montessori (although, perhaps put these seats at Nottingham and let the Career Center tear down the Henry building to make better use of that land for a high school)
Net-net, this would move one additional option south, but that suppports the numbers. More Souty Arlington families are choicing out of their schools, so stop fighting it and give SA more conveniently located choice schools.
Transfers:
SOUTH
Abington 413
Barcroft 297
Carlin Springs 352
Drew 107
Henry 115
Hoffman Boston 100
Oakridge 204
Randolph 160
TOTAL: 1748
NORTH
Ashlawn 122 (54 to ATS)
Barrett 108
Discovery 70
Glebe 109 (41 to ATS)
Jamestown 70
Long Branch 169
McKinley 106 (47 to ATS)
Nottingham 54
Tuckahoe 39
Taylor 225 - 105 (Sci Foc)
TOTAL: 897
Note: Not including Key with 569 because that is people who select Science Focus, effectively their neighborhood school.
Source: APS Transfer Report - https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Transfer-Report-2016-17.pdf
Exactly.
People aren’t understanding that umc families can’t just solve this problem by enrolling at some of these neighborhood schools as they are now. We can’t have it both ways. Either we focus on diversity or EXTRME
Convenience. Barcroft kids WILLNhave a neighborhood school. It will just be a different one.
But it is not right to leave the entire west end of Columbia Pike without a neighborhood school. Everyone else on here is clamoring for their neighborhood school and how they have to have a walkable neighborhood school. Yet putting option programs in all three of CS, Campbell, and Barcroft eliminates all neighborhood schools for the entire west end of CP. Not EVERYone in all those neighborhoods want an option program, particularly immersion.
Maybe there is a solution like making the immersion a program within the neighborhood school? Although, I know, APS just got away from that with Drew.
Or, really, make it just ONE larger Spanish immersion choice program.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Always interesting to look at the data. Over twice as many kids in South Arlington schools transfer out of their home school than North. And the top three feeders to ATS are from the schools closest to ATS. I’d like to see more of the options in South Arlington to strategically break up pockets of extreme ED and drive socioeconomic diversity. By having the options closer together, it may be possible to share buses so that buses pick up at fewer stops, then drop off at more than one school (could stagger start times).
Carlin Springs - new home for Claremont Immersion (2nd largest number of transfers out countywide, open larger building that is highly walkable and use less walkable building for option)
ATS - new home for Key Immersion (closer to Spanish speakers, more central, less walkable)
Campbell - EL
Barcroft - new home for ATS (3rd highest transfers out in county, brings a high-performing school South and may be more convenient for SA families)
Henry - new Montessori (although, perhaps put these seats at Nottingham and let the Career Center tear down the Henry building to make better use of that land for a high school)
Net-net, this would move one additional option south, but that suppports the numbers. More Souty Arlington families are choicing out of their schools, so stop fighting it and give SA more conveniently located choice schools.
Transfers:
SOUTH
Abington 413
Barcroft 297
Carlin Springs 352
Drew 107
Henry 115
Hoffman Boston 100
Oakridge 204
Randolph 160
TOTAL: 1748
NORTH
Ashlawn 122 (54 to ATS)
Barrett 108
Discovery 70
Glebe 109 (41 to ATS)
Jamestown 70
Long Branch 169
McKinley 106 (47 to ATS)
Nottingham 54
Tuckahoe 39
Taylor 225 - 105 (Sci Foc)
TOTAL: 897
Note: Not including Key with 569 because that is people who select Science Focus, effectively their neighborhood school.
Source: APS Transfer Report - https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Transfer-Report-2016-17.pdf
Exactly.
People aren’t understanding that umc families can’t just solve this problem by enrolling at some of these neighborhood schools as they are now. We can’t have it both ways. Either we focus on diversity or EXTRME
Convenience. Barcroft kids WILLNhave a neighborhood school. It will just be a different one.
But it is not right to leave the entire west end of Columbia Pike without a neighborhood school. Everyone else on here is clamoring for their neighborhood school and how they have to have a walkable neighborhood school. Yet putting option programs in all three of CS, Campbell, and Barcroft eliminates all neighborhood schools for the entire west end of CP. Not EVERYone in all those neighborhoods want an option program, particularly immersion.
Tough.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So now that the Superintendent's proposed CIP calls for tearing down the Henry building in a few years, shouldn't we be including the Montessori school in this planning process? If not, what are we doing with that program? Montessori to Nottingham?
That could perhaps be an idea!!! Perhaps Nottingham could stay neighborhood, but with a smaller attendance zone, and add Montessori. I know it didn't work out well at Drew, but I think there was a different dynamic there. It is worth exploring. Many Montessori parents have happily traveled to Discovery and Jamestown for a while, and have hoped to get a Montessori spot there, so Nottingham is not further. I'm not sure, but it should be looked at.
How big is the Nottingham building? The Montessori school will be about 500 kids at that point. Could you fit neighborhood kids in addition to that? I don't see them going back to a hybrid set up.
APS has said no more hybrid schools. I don’t know where you put it if they decide to tear down Henry. It also seems like they aren’t budgeting for having to build another school for it. They know they will need a new neighborhood school around 2025 but that will be needed for neighborhood seats. To build two new schools seems like a stretch with all of the other building projects.
This is where the AB needs to take a serious look at all of the option programs and decide if each one is worth continuing. And I would bet that once it is time to move Montessori again the NW Quadrant schools will again be bursting at the seams.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So now that the Superintendent's proposed CIP calls for tearing down the Henry building in a few years, shouldn't we be including the Montessori school in this planning process? If not, what are we doing with that program? Montessori to Nottingham?
That could perhaps be an idea!!! Perhaps Nottingham could stay neighborhood, but with a smaller attendance zone, and add Montessori. I know it didn't work out well at Drew, but I think there was a different dynamic there. It is worth exploring. Many Montessori parents have happily traveled to Discovery and Jamestown for a while, and have hoped to get a Montessori spot there, so Nottingham is not further. I'm not sure, but it should be looked at.
How big is the Nottingham building? The Montessori school will be about 500 kids at that point. Could you fit neighborhood kids in addition to that? I don't see them going back to a hybrid set up.
APS has said no more hybrid schools. I don’t know where you put it if they decide to tear down Henry. It also seems like they aren’t budgeting for having to build another school for it. They know they will need a new neighborhood school around 2025 but that will be needed for neighborhood seats. To build two new schools seems like a stretch with all of the other building projects.
This is where the AB needs to take a serious look at all of the option programs and decide if each one is worth continuing. And I would bet that once it is time to move Montessori again the NW Quadrant schools will again be bursting at the seams.
From outward appearances, it seems to me that Tara natrass only cares about option schools insofar as they can help integrate schools in terms of SES. Otherwise I think she is hostile towards them, probably for the simple fact that they tend to bunch motivated, involved parents together, instead of balancing out less involved parents who either can't or won't get very involved in their child's education. I think she'd happily kill most option programs.
No, she comes from a school system that has used option schools in precisely that way. It makes sense and is really the justification for them to exist in today's climate. Otherwise, they serve as publicly funded private schools. I am an option school parent btw.
Interesting. Does she live in north or south Arlington?