Alcohol seemed to fuel the fortune telling session and clearly they edited some stuff out but Craig is douchey when he is angry and/or drinks. This stuff was filmed a year ago give or take, but since he is living in his girlfriend's parent's house if I saw that footage and Naomi was my daughter I would tell him to pack his stuff and get out even if they are both "adults".
Also, Craig was way too vocal in defending Kathryn. Naomi was right to tell him to chill about it, which he got mad at. Cam had a point. It isn't their business. Kathryn got on the show because she slept with 3 of the 4 main male cast members and I suspect she did with Craig as well even though he denied it.

Anonymous wrote:I can't stand Cameran. She's awful. All the way around

I don't mind her but she has no place on the show. Her only storyline is badgering Shep to get married . Pointless.

That georgette snob was terrible. She is a girl from middle class Indiana.

Sorry, Pat and Georgette, at the end of the day you're two old ladies in dog caftans who'd fit right in on People of Wal-Mart.

It also cracks me up that Cameran says her mother was an etiquette teacher, and Cameran has horrendous table manners.

Anonymous wrote:I can't stand Landon or Thomas, BUT - I truly don't think they ever hooked up, like Katherine thinks. Mainly because if they did, I think Landon would throw it in her face. Thoughts?

I definitely think they hooked up. Landon is all about "looking proper" and "people talking'' and presenting herself as a fine, sophisticated single woman looking for a wealthy man.

Sleeping with the town tramp (Thomas) would ruin her chances with other wealthy men that run in the same circles.

Anonymous wrote:Landon. Ugh.

+1

Anonymous wrote:I can't stand Landon or Thomas, BUT - I truly don't think they ever hooked up, like Katherine thinks. Mainly because if they did, I think Landon would throw it in her face. Thoughts?

Yea, I think I agree with your you. I think there was a makeout session and I think she made it clear to Thomas that he needs to get rid of Katherine.

I can't stand Cameran. She's awful. All the way around

I can't stand Landon or Thomas, BUT - I truly don't think they ever hooked up, like Katherine thinks. Mainly because if they did, I think Landon would throw it in her face. Thoughts?

Landon. Ugh.

Anonymous wrote:Did Kathryn's friend Jennifer really sleep with TRav while Kathryn was pregnant or was Kathryn just being delusional crazy with that accusation?

They had a one night stand. No one knew Katherine was pregnant at that time ( though Thomas probably did), they were broken up and it was very early in pregnancy.

Landon is another story though. Hooking up with Thomas knowing full well their history and her pregnancy.

Anonymous wrote:Did Kathryn's friend Jennifer really sleep with TRav while Kathryn was pregnant or was Kathryn just being delusional crazy with that accusation?

I think she said that they had some sort of relationship while Katherine and Thomas were broken up. She wouldn't confirm sleeping with him on the reunion. Jennifer and Katherine were also not friends at the time. Katherine is also holding Jennifer's acceptance of Thomas' apology and hug from last reunion against Jennifer. Katherine thinks that was disrespectful of Jennifer.

Did Kathryn's friend Jennifer really sleep with TRav while Kathryn was pregnant or was Kathryn just being delusional crazy with that accusation?

Anonymous wrote:I feel like this show used to be fairly interesting but that this season is so boring!

I went back and re-watched the first few episodes of season 1 and was surprised to see how little the show has changed. I think viewers are suffering from same ole, same ole. Cam was trying to get Shep married. Whitney was obsessed with scoring on models and popped in and out of town whenever. TRav was looking for a good woman to have kids and be Mrs. Ravenel, but re-watching I don't believe getting pregnant with Catherine was an accident or that he didn't know her prior to the show. He was way too enamored by her "pedigree"cuz her family name is in history books and on statues and whatnot. Catherine was tragically skinny and came off as naive and young mostly because she didn't say much in the beginning and appeared drunk or high a lot, but Cameron had her pegged when "the scare" was announced. TRav had money and I suspect she grew up with the name but not the cash that once came along with it. Craig was always slacker-ish but he and Shep butted heads.

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Anonymous wrote:Did anyone notice that the Ravenel boy (Saint) shows some physical facial signs of Down Syndrome or maybe autism.


My SIL is from old Southern money & current money, her family & friends drink more than anyone other "type" of people I know.

Yes, I've noticed. But anytime someone mentions it on here or anywhere else, we get accused of being horrible people.

That is how Kathryn looks without makeup, though -- being completely serious.

They drink and carry on a lot for people their age in the South. They all act like their in their 20's and single.

This.

Agreed. He looks so much like her.

Besides, if he had Down Syndrome, that show would milk it for everything. Seriously - it's such an exploitative genre.

IMO, I think some things they're inclined to sweep under the rug. Kinda like the whole, Thomas never had a paternity test done thing, even after it's been speculated that one or both kids aren't actually his.

What? I thought he had multiple ones done for each kid? Or was it just multiple tests for Kenzie?