Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why would El Salvador send an El Salvador citizen back to United States. That doesn't make sense.
Why would they imprison him when he has not been charged with any crime here or there? That doesn't make sense. The only reason they would do that is because we are paying them to. (And admittedly that doesn't make sense either, when he has not been charged with anything here or there.)
Due to extreme gang violence terrorizing the country, El Salvador passed an emergency state of exception in March 2022. They were the murder capital of the world. Under the special powers, the right to association is suspended, police don’t have to tell someone being arrested the reason or inform them of their rights. Someone arrested does not have a right to a lawyer, mass trials are allowed and there is no longer a right to a speedy trial. It is against the law in El Salvador to have any gang connections. There is a law that criminalizes the creation, distribution, or display of any visual expression that alludes to gangs. So the fact that there is a gang report from the US naming him associating with MS-13 gang members and is maybe a gang member and he maybe has gang tattoos on his hands is enough in El Salvador to imprison you for any one of those offenses.
El Salvadorans had reached their limit and decided the trade off was worth it because how miserable the conditions were when gangs were terrorizing the country killing, extorting, raping, etc. Just like we imprison people and hold people in Guantanamo Bay without a trial and without charges for over 20 years. We decided it was worth it to defend our country against terrorism.
So it’s ok to deny people due process? That’s insane. And as the past few months have shown, innocent people end up being hurt by this system. It’s why we have laws and a constitution. This is not a monarchy where the king decides who gets his head chopped off.
It is okay to deny people due process if you are in Guantanamo Bay. I don’t understand how people can ignore we imprison people without due process 90 miles offshore on a US military base. Everyone upset about this case should be upset Guantanamo Bay is still open. How about we clean house first?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Kilmar Abrego Garcia is a bad hombre.
Unknown to the administration until this week: Abrego Garcia's wife, Jennifer Vasquez Sura, actually had told local police in Maryland about a total of six instances of alleged abuse from 2019-2021, according to court documents filed when Vasquez Sura sought a protective order. (DHS released the documents Wednesday.)
In 2022, Abrego Garcia was stopped in Tennessee for speeding in a vehicle owned by a convicted human smuggler. Eight other people and no luggage were in the car, according to the Department of Homeland Security.
https://www.axios.com/2025/05/01/kilmar-abrego-garcia-abuse-allegations-deport-immigration?utm
If he’s a “bad hombre” then try him in a court of law. It’s a slippery slope when you start imprisoning people (without due process) for alleged “bad behavior.”
Anonymous wrote: It is against the law in El Salvador to have any gang connections.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why would El Salvador send an El Salvador citizen back to United States. That doesn't make sense.
Why would they imprison him when he has not been charged with any crime here or there? That doesn't make sense. The only reason they would do that is because we are paying them to. (And admittedly that doesn't make sense either, when he has not been charged with anything here or there.)
Due to extreme gang violence terrorizing the country, El Salvador passed an emergency state of exception in March 2022. They were the murder capital of the world. Under the special powers, the right to association is suspended, police don’t have to tell someone being arrested the reason or inform them of their rights. Someone arrested does not have a right to a lawyer, mass trials are allowed and there is no longer a right to a speedy trial. It is against the law in El Salvador to have any gang connections. There is a law that criminalizes the creation, distribution, or display of any visual expression that alludes to gangs. So the fact that there is a gang report from the US naming him associating with MS-13 gang members and is maybe a gang member and he maybe has gang tattoos on his hands is enough in El Salvador to imprison you for any one of those offenses.
El Salvadorans had reached their limit and decided the trade off was worth it because how miserable the conditions were when gangs were terrorizing the country killing, extorting, raping, etc. Just like we imprison people and hold people in Guantanamo Bay without a trial and without charges for over 20 years. We decided it was worth it to defend our country against terrorism.
So it’s ok to deny people due process? That’s insane. And as the past few months have shown, innocent people end up being hurt by this system. It’s why we have laws and a constitution. This is not a monarchy where the king decides who gets his head chopped off.
A hearing that he lost, and an appeal that he lost, is not due priocess?
If you get a speeding ticket, challenge it in court, lose, appeal, then lose again, were you denied due process?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why would El Salvador send an El Salvador citizen back to United States. That doesn't make sense.
Why would they imprison him when he has not been charged with any crime here or there? That doesn't make sense. The only reason they would do that is because we are paying them to. (And admittedly that doesn't make sense either, when he has not been charged with anything here or there.)
Due to extreme gang violence terrorizing the country, El Salvador passed an emergency state of exception in March 2022. They were the murder capital of the world. Under the special powers, the right to association is suspended, police don’t have to tell someone being arrested the reason or inform them of their rights. Someone arrested does not have a right to a lawyer, mass trials are allowed and there is no longer a right to a speedy trial. It is against the law in El Salvador to have any gang connections. There is a law that criminalizes the creation, distribution, or display of any visual expression that alludes to gangs. So the fact that there is a gang report from the US naming him associating with MS-13 gang members and is maybe a gang member and he maybe has gang tattoos on his hands is enough in El Salvador to imprison you for any one of those offenses.
El Salvadorans had reached their limit and decided the trade off was worth it because how miserable the conditions were when gangs were terrorizing the country killing, extorting, raping, etc. Just like we imprison people and hold people in Guantanamo Bay without a trial and without charges for over 20 years. We decided it was worth it to defend our country against terrorism.
So it’s ok to deny people due process? That’s insane. And as the past few months have shown, innocent people end up being hurt by this system. It’s why we have laws and a constitution. This is not a monarchy where the king decides who gets his head chopped off.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Kilmar Abrego Garcia is a bad hombre.
Unknown to the administration until this week: Abrego Garcia's wife, Jennifer Vasquez Sura, actually had told local police in Maryland about a total of six instances of alleged abuse from 2019-2021, according to court documents filed when Vasquez Sura sought a protective order. (DHS released the documents Wednesday.)
In 2022, Abrego Garcia was stopped in Tennessee for speeding in a vehicle owned by a convicted human smuggler. Eight other people and no luggage were in the car, according to the Department of Homeland Security.
https://www.axios.com/2025/05/01/kilmar-abrego-garcia-abuse-allegations-deport-immigration?utm
If he’s a “bad hombre” then try him in a court of law. It’s a slippery slope when you start imprisoning people (without due process) for alleged “bad behavior.”
What about the MS13 tattoos on his knuckles? That should be enough right there. no need for a trial.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why would El Salvador send an El Salvador citizen back to United States. That doesn't make sense.
Why would they imprison him when he has not been charged with any crime here or there? That doesn't make sense. The only reason they would do that is because we are paying them to. (And admittedly that doesn't make sense either, when he has not been charged with anything here or there.)
Due to extreme gang violence terrorizing the country, El Salvador passed an emergency state of exception in March 2022. They were the murder capital of the world. Under the special powers, the right to association is suspended, police don’t have to tell someone being arrested the reason or inform them of their rights. Someone arrested does not have a right to a lawyer, mass trials are allowed and there is no longer a right to a speedy trial. It is against the law in El Salvador to have any gang connections. There is a law that criminalizes the creation, distribution, or display of any visual expression that alludes to gangs. So the fact that there is a gang report from the US naming him associating with MS-13 gang members and is maybe a gang member and he maybe has gang tattoos on his hands is enough in El Salvador to imprison you for any one of those offenses.
El Salvadorans had reached their limit and decided the trade off was worth it because how miserable the conditions were when gangs were terrorizing the country killing, extorting, raping, etc. Just like we imprison people and hold people in Guantanamo Bay without a trial and without charges for over 20 years. We decided it was worth it to defend our country against terrorism.
So it’s ok to deny people due process? That’s insane. And as the past few months have shown, innocent people end up being hurt by this system. It’s why we have laws and a constitution. This is not a monarchy where the king decides who gets his head chopped off.
It is okay to deny people due process if you are in Guantanamo Bay. I don’t understand how people can ignore we imprison people without due process 90 miles offshore on a US military base. Everyone upset about this case should be upset Guantanamo Bay is still open. How about we clean house first?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why would El Salvador send an El Salvador citizen back to United States. That doesn't make sense.
Why would they imprison him when he has not been charged with any crime here or there? That doesn't make sense. The only reason they would do that is because we are paying them to. (And admittedly that doesn't make sense either, when he has not been charged with anything here or there.)
Due to extreme gang violence terrorizing the country, El Salvador passed an emergency state of exception in March 2022. They were the murder capital of the world. Under the special powers, the right to association is suspended, police don’t have to tell someone being arrested the reason or inform them of their rights. Someone arrested does not have a right to a lawyer, mass trials are allowed and there is no longer a right to a speedy trial. It is against the law in El Salvador to have any gang connections. There is a law that criminalizes the creation, distribution, or display of any visual expression that alludes to gangs. So the fact that there is a gang report from the US naming him associating with MS-13 gang members and is maybe a gang member and he maybe has gang tattoos on his hands is enough in El Salvador to imprison you for any one of those offenses.
El Salvadorans had reached their limit and decided the trade off was worth it because how miserable the conditions were when gangs were terrorizing the country killing, extorting, raping, etc. Just like we imprison people and hold people in Guantanamo Bay without a trial and without charges for over 20 years. We decided it was worth it to defend our country against terrorism.
So it’s ok to deny people due process? That’s insane. And as the past few months have shown, innocent people end up being hurt by this system. It’s why we have laws and a constitution. This is not a monarchy where the king decides who gets his head chopped off.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Kilmar Abrego Garcia is a bad hombre.
Unknown to the administration until this week: Abrego Garcia's wife, Jennifer Vasquez Sura, actually had told local police in Maryland about a total of six instances of alleged abuse from 2019-2021, according to court documents filed when Vasquez Sura sought a protective order. (DHS released the documents Wednesday.)
In 2022, Abrego Garcia was stopped in Tennessee for speeding in a vehicle owned by a convicted human smuggler. Eight other people and no luggage were in the car, according to the Department of Homeland Security.
https://www.axios.com/2025/05/01/kilmar-abrego-garcia-abuse-allegations-deport-immigration?utm
If he’s a “bad hombre” then try him in a court of law. It’s a slippery slope when you start imprisoning people (without due process) for alleged “bad behavior.”
Anonymous wrote:"We cannot give everyone a trial," sez Trump. He got a trial. It would have been better for the country if he'd gone directly to a prison in El Salvador? He's a convicted felon.
Anonymous wrote:Kilmar Abrego Garcia is a bad hombre.
Unknown to the administration until this week: Abrego Garcia's wife, Jennifer Vasquez Sura, actually had told local police in Maryland about a total of six instances of alleged abuse from 2019-2021, according to court documents filed when Vasquez Sura sought a protective order. (DHS released the documents Wednesday.)
In 2022, Abrego Garcia was stopped in Tennessee for speeding in a vehicle owned by a convicted human smuggler. Eight other people and no luggage were in the car, according to the Department of Homeland Security.
https://www.axios.com/2025/05/01/kilmar-abrego-garcia-abuse-allegations-deport-immigration?utm
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why would El Salvador send an El Salvador citizen back to United States. That doesn't make sense.
Why would they imprison him when he has not been charged with any crime here or there? That doesn't make sense. The only reason they would do that is because we are paying them to. (And admittedly that doesn't make sense either, when he has not been charged with anything here or there.)
Due to extreme gang violence terrorizing the country, El Salvador passed an emergency state of exception in March 2022. They were the murder capital of the world. Under the special powers, the right to association is suspended, police don’t have to tell someone being arrested the reason or inform them of their rights. Someone arrested does not have a right to a lawyer, mass trials are allowed and there is no longer a right to a speedy trial. It is against the law in El Salvador to have any gang connections. There is a law that criminalizes the creation, distribution, or display of any visual expression that alludes to gangs. So the fact that there is a gang report from the US naming him associating with MS-13 gang members and is maybe a gang member and he maybe has gang tattoos on his hands is enough in El Salvador to imprison you for any one of those offenses.
El Salvadorans had reached their limit and decided the trade off was worth it because how miserable the conditions were when gangs were terrorizing the country killing, extorting, raping, etc. Just like we imprison people and hold people in Guantanamo Bay without a trial and without charges for over 20 years. We decided it was worth it to defend our country against terrorism.
Anonymous wrote:Kilmar Abrego Garcia is a bad hombre.
Unknown to the administration until this week: Abrego Garcia's wife, Jennifer Vasquez Sura, actually had told local police in Maryland about a total of six instances of alleged abuse from 2019-2021, according to court documents filed when Vasquez Sura sought a protective order. (DHS released the documents Wednesday.)
In 2022, Abrego Garcia was stopped in Tennessee for speeding in a vehicle owned by a convicted human smuggler. Eight other people and no luggage were in the car, according to the Department of Homeland Security.
https://www.axios.com/2025/05/01/kilmar-abrego-garcia-abuse-allegations-deport-immigration?utm
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why would El Salvador send an El Salvador citizen back to United States. That doesn't make sense.
Why would they imprison him when he has not been charged with any crime here or there? That doesn't make sense. The only reason they would do that is because we are paying them to. (And admittedly that doesn't make sense either, when he has not been charged with anything here or there.)