It is very bizarre to be angry over someone not liking a character.

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Anonymous wrote:Remarkably, posters have derailed and ruined this thread by attacking a secondary fictional character in a show where she hasn't appeared in the last 2 episodes.

No one is attacking. It’s literally posters just saying they don’t care for her, which prompts one crazy poster to attack them personally. She does this in other threads too apparently.

You are so weird. I am a poster who you've made these allegations about in the past, and I haven't posted for many pages. More than one person disagrees with you. I guess anyone that disagrees with you in other threads is also "she?"

Reading over the last bunch of posts, people were talking about the show and not Collins, because she has been off screen and wasn't relevant to the episode discussions at all. Then someone feels the need to jump in with something negative about the character. People try to deflect with humor and get back to the show, but others insist on harping on Collins. It's a weird dynamic that has happened repeatedly in this thread.

Why does that bother you though? Different people may or may not like a character. Are they not allowed to express a differing opinion? How about Santos? Does it bother you that I don’t like Santos? My I be negative about Santos?

Ask yourself why it bothers you so much that a few people may not feel connected to Dr. Collins or don’t like her. Why does that feel like an attack on you personally? It shouldn’t. And yet you are responding as if someone attacked you personally and you just defend this character. I truly don’t get it.

DP. If you stop being so petulant about how you dislike Collins every time someone else says something positive about the character, other people will stop pointing out how petulant you are being re your dislike of the character. Voila!

DP. And likewise, if you stop taking it personally that someone doesn’t like Dr. Collins, voila! There is only an issue when one poster makes it an issue that another poster doesn’t like a character. They need to get over it - it’s a god$am$ tv show!

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Anonymous wrote:Remarkably, posters have derailed and ruined this thread by attacking a secondary fictional character in a show where she hasn't appeared in the last 2 episodes.

No one is attacking. It’s literally posters just saying they don’t care for her, which prompts one crazy poster to attack them personally. She does this in other threads too apparently.

You are so weird. I am a poster who you've made these allegations about in the past, and I haven't posted for many pages. More than one person disagrees with you. I guess anyone that disagrees with you in other threads is also "she?"

Reading over the last bunch of posts, people were talking about the show and not Collins, because she has been off screen and wasn't relevant to the episode discussions at all. Then someone feels the need to jump in with something negative about the character. People try to deflect with humor and get back to the show, but others insist on harping on Collins. It's a weird dynamic that has happened repeatedly in this thread.

Why does that bother you though? Different people may or may not like a character. Are they not allowed to express a differing opinion? How about Santos? Does it bother you that I don’t like Santos? My I be negative about Santos?

Ask yourself why it bothers you so much that a few people may not feel connected to Dr. Collins or don’t like her. Why does that feel like an attack on you personally? It shouldn’t. And yet you are responding as if someone attacked you personally and you just defend this character. I truly don’t get it.

DP. If you stop being so petulant about how you dislike Collins every time someone else says something positive about the character, other people will stop pointing out how petulant you are being re your dislike of the character. Voila!

The character hasn't been seen since March 13. Maybe we can talk about some other things, people, cases?

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Anonymous wrote:Remarkably, posters have derailed and ruined this thread by attacking a secondary fictional character in a show where she hasn't appeared in the last 2 episodes.

No one is attacking. It’s literally posters just saying they don’t care for her, which prompts one crazy poster to attack them personally. She does this in other threads too apparently.

You are so weird. I am a poster who you've made these allegations about in the past, and I haven't posted for many pages. More than one person disagrees with you. I guess anyone that disagrees with you in other threads is also "she?"

Reading over the last bunch of posts, people were talking about the show and not Collins, because she has been off screen and wasn't relevant to the episode discussions at all. Then someone feels the need to jump in with something negative about the character. People try to deflect with humor and get back to the show, but others insist on harping on Collins. It's a weird dynamic that has happened repeatedly in this thread.

Why does that bother you though? Different people may or may not like a character. Are they not allowed to express a differing opinion? How about Santos? Does it bother you that I don’t like Santos? My I be negative about Santos?

Ask yourself why it bothers you so much that a few people may not feel connected to Dr. Collins or don’t like her. Why does that feel like an attack on you personally? It shouldn’t. And yet you are responding as if someone attacked you personally and you just defend this character. I truly don’t get it.

Anonymous wrote:Predictions for the finale:
* I still guess slap dude will have been the shooter and the long wait times will get the hospital in trouble and will have been the “reason” for the shooting. Maybe by next season they are bought out by that healthcare co. Ugh I hope not.
* Robbie is going to work it somehow so that Langdon gets treatment but is allowed to come back. Robbie will see that the ER is stressful and people need more grace, but it will not be some skin of our teeth solution. Robbie will sign himself up for psych counseling. Santos and Langdon will reach tenuous detente.
* McCay is going to have to keep wearing the ankle bracelet for another year or something, huge injustice when she was just trying to do her job. Javadi will see you shouldn’t judge people on things like this, you don’t know how the system has effed them over to get them where they are.
* Mel, Whitaker, and Mo continue to be awesome.
* Collin’s comes in with emergency bleeding from miscarriage but is okay.

I agree with a lot of this. I think there will be some sort of crisis that Santos makes worse by acting impulsively/without appropriate supervision.

Collins isn't (I hope!) still going to be suffering a miscarriage 10 months later. Maybe she'll be 6 month pregnant?

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Anonymous wrote:Remarkably, posters have derailed and ruined this thread by attacking a secondary fictional character in a show where she hasn't appeared in the last 2 episodes.

No one is attacking. It’s literally posters just saying they don’t care for her, which prompts one crazy poster to attack them personally. She does this in other threads too apparently.

You are so weird. I am a poster who you've made these allegations about in the past, and I haven't posted for many pages. More than one person disagrees with you. I guess anyone that disagrees with you in other threads is also "she?"

Reading over the last bunch of posts, people were talking about the show and not Collins, because she has been off screen and wasn't relevant to the episode discussions at all. Then someone feels the need to jump in with something negative about the character. People try to deflect with humor and get back to the show, but others insist on harping on Collins. It's a weird dynamic that has happened repeatedly in this thread.

Yes you’re so right! Are you able to continue discussing the show, or are you going to keep harping on the same thing?

I was talking about the show, and came back to this mess. Why is it ok for people that don't like Collins to jump on others and continually derail, but when someone calls it out or responds, that's not ok?

Your points are well taken! Are you able to continue discussing the show? Or do you need to keep harping on this? You never answered! Would love to keep discussing this show!

Are you able to talk to people like they are other adults or do you need to keep up your role of kindergarten teacher? If you want to discuss the show, maybe you could post about it instead of condescendingly telling others what to do. The unfortunate truth is that it is very likely that this thread will always be plagued by people who just have to jump in and trash a certain character no matter the direction of the discussion. So there can be good discussion but it's always going to be disrupted.

Very confused by your rant. I haven’t told anyone what to do, just expressed a differing opinion on a character.

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Anonymous wrote:Remarkably, posters have derailed and ruined this thread by attacking a secondary fictional character in a show where she hasn't appeared in the last 2 episodes.

No one is attacking. It’s literally posters just saying they don’t care for her, which prompts one crazy poster to attack them personally. She does this in other threads too apparently.

You are so weird. I am a poster who you've made these allegations about in the past, and I haven't posted for many pages. More than one person disagrees with you. I guess anyone that disagrees with you in other threads is also "she?"

Reading over the last bunch of posts, people were talking about the show and not Collins, because she has been off screen and wasn't relevant to the episode discussions at all. Then someone feels the need to jump in with something negative about the character. People try to deflect with humor and get back to the show, but others insist on harping on Collins. It's a weird dynamic that has happened repeatedly in this thread.

Yes you’re so right! Are you able to continue discussing the show, or are you going to keep harping on the same thing?

I was talking about the show, and came back to this mess. Why is it ok for people that don't like Collins to jump on others and continually derail, but when someone calls it out or responds, that's not ok?

Your points are well taken! Are you able to continue discussing the show? Or do you need to keep harping on this? You never answered! Would love to keep discussing this show!

Are you able to talk to people like they are other adults or do you need to keep up your role of kindergarten teacher? If you want to discuss the show, maybe you could post about it instead of condescendingly telling others what to do. The unfortunate truth is that it is very likely that this thread will always be plagued by people who just have to jump in and trash a certain character no matter the direction of the discussion. So there can be good discussion but it's always going to be disrupted.

Just so I’m clear, we aren’t allowed to say we don’t like Dr. Collins, right? We can’t say that we don’t miss her. Otherwise we are accused of derailing the thread?

Are we allowed to say we don’t like other characters, or does this only apply to Dr. Collins?

Thanks for clarifying!

Interesting Esquire interview with Noah Wylie:

Part of it (whole thing is a good read):

[b]The Pitt has also grappled with what's going on with young men in America right now—loneliness, hurt, and an identity crisis. Tell me about your goals for that aspect of the series.[\b]

Misunderstood is a really good way to start. Because that became what we really wanted the storyline to be in one form or another. David is not feeling seen or heard, and he's slipping through the cracks. It triggers all sorts of paranoia and feelings of judgment and bias. We wanted to play that out to have it be misunderstood that he was not actually responsible for this shooting and yet still will be punished for what in essence is a thoughtcrime. In reality, it's cautionary behavior that needs to be addressed. It speaks to this very interesting place we're living in where there is a problem and I'm not sure what the right remedy is.

It's really hard to get all of your self-esteem from a screen and all of your context for the world through a screen. … We were supposed to be brought together by this technology. It seems that the opposite has happened. We've all been sort of fragmented into a lot of different little micro bubbles, and some of them are really lonely places. I'm not being very articulate because I'm no expert.

[b]You are articulating this well.[\b]

I'm just speaking as a father of a 22-year-old son. I've been watching him and his friends try to negotiate manhood. It's not been easy, because any expression of budding manhood can also be interpreted as budding toxic masculinity. So I've watched my son have to figure out how to be a man but not too much of a man. Enjoy camaraderie but not have it be the kind of camaraderie that could be worrisome. It's just unfair and sad. If I tried to identify one general emotion out there, you could say it’s anger.

But I don't think anger is anger. I think it's sadness. Most people at heart just feel a little heartbroken and don't know how to express that. And so we all go about getting attention however we do. Sometimes it's positive, sometimes it's negative, but it's certainly attention, and you're certainly going to be seen and you're going to be heard one way or the other. That's what's at the root of it—everybody just wanted to be acknowledged. But man, it can go some pretty abhorrent ways if ignored.

[b]I feel like young men don't feel like they can talk like how we are now—a conversation about masculinity between two men and what that means today.[\b]

It's really interesting for me to talk about what I was trying to do with Robby in a sense, which is to at least display a different form of masculinity on television. He's a good, heroic, and complex guy. He's not perfect. He's got some temper. He's got some undealt-with pain. Ultimately, he's got to come to the realization that compartmentalizing his feelings and suppressing them isn't any healthier than it is for David. There needs to be an avenue of release and a safe community for conversation and healing to take place.

There's a lot of damage that gets done from suppressing this stuff. I'm a firm believer that undealt-with trauma, pain, and anger manifests itself in disease and sickness. What people carry around with them, health-wise, is what they're not dealing with emotionally, psychologically, spiritually. There's a very strong connection there. We all need to clean our attics and basements.

[b]Even in this episode, Robby tells Mel, "Never apologize for feeling something for your patients," which is really beautiful.[\b]

That's to retain your sense of humanity. Langdon gives her the same advice. The ER is tough on sensitive people, but it needs sensitive people. It needs sensitive people very badly. So you have to retain a sense of humanity and sensitivity without becoming so empathic that you take on the problems of the world and they become your problems at your own detriment—or so desensitized for your own survival that you can't connect human to human.


https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/tv/a64368020/noah-wyle-the-pitt-interview/

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+1

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Anonymous wrote:Remarkably, posters have derailed and ruined this thread by attacking a secondary fictional character in a show where she hasn't appeared in the last 2 episodes.

No one is attacking. It’s literally posters just saying they don’t care for her, which prompts one crazy poster to attack them personally. She does this in other threads too apparently.

You are so weird. I am a poster who you've made these allegations about in the past, and I haven't posted for many pages. More than one person disagrees with you. I guess anyone that disagrees with you in other threads is also "she?"

Reading over the last bunch of posts, people were talking about the show and not Collins, because she has been off screen and wasn't relevant to the episode discussions at all. Then someone feels the need to jump in with something negative about the character. People try to deflect with humor and get back to the show, but others insist on harping on Collins. It's a weird dynamic that has happened repeatedly in this thread.

Yes you’re so right! Are you able to continue discussing the show, or are you going to keep harping on the same thing?

I was talking about the show, and came back to this mess. Why is it ok for people that don't like Collins to jump on others and continually derail, but when someone calls it out or responds, that's not ok?

Your points are well taken! Are you able to continue discussing the show? Or do you need to keep harping on this? You never answered! Would love to keep discussing this show!

Are you able to talk to people like they are other adults or do you need to keep up your role of kindergarten teacher? If you want to discuss the show, maybe you could post about it instead of condescendingly telling others what to do. The unfortunate truth is that it is very likely that this thread will always be plagued by people who just have to jump in and trash a certain character no matter the direction of the discussion. So there can be good discussion but it's always going to be disrupted.

Excellent points!!!

Anonymous wrote:Predictions for the finale:
* I still guess slap dude will have been the shooter and the long wait times will get the hospital in trouble and will have been the “reason” for the shooting. Maybe by next season they are bought out by that healthcare co. Ugh I hope not.
* Robbie is going to work it somehow so that Langdon gets treatment but is allowed to come back. Robbie will see that the ER is stressful and people need more grace, but it will not be some skin of our teeth solution. Robbie will sign himself up for psych counseling. Santos and Langdon will reach tenuous detente.
* McCay is going to have to keep wearing the ankle bracelet for another year or something, huge injustice when she was just trying to do her job. Javadi will see you shouldn’t judge people on things like this, you don’t know how the system has effed them over to get them where they are.
* Mel, Whitaker, and Mo continue to be awesome.
* Collin’s comes in with emergency bleeding from miscarriage but is okay.

I actually forgot about slap dude, that would be interesting. For awhile I wondered if it was the clown, because clowns. Now I have no idea

I agree Langdon will likely be back after rehab, but I think it will be more related to policy than personal feelings. I HOPE Robby gets therapy. I think Langdon will always be on the lookout for ways to take revenge on Santos and she will always be watching her back and watching for him to screw up. I'd love to see Langdon actually face up to his behavior but I don't know that it's consistent with the character

If McKay has to keep wearing that thing I'm going to be so mad! I'm interested to see how Javadi has changed after 10 months. I know a lot of people have found her boring, but I think when you start college at 13 and land in medical school with an overbearing, critical, superstar doctor for your mom, it's natural that you're socially immature and a bit unformed. She might be very different after 10 months in the ER.

I think Mel or Whitaker will have some kind of major setback. I hate it for the characters, but it feels like it's necessary for the storytelling.

I hope there's not a medical crisis for Collins and it can just be that she was home with her phone off. Maybe she'll have changed her mind and either be pregnant or doing another course of IVF.

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Anonymous wrote:Remarkably, posters have derailed and ruined this thread by attacking a secondary fictional character in a show where she hasn't appeared in the last 2 episodes.

No one is attacking. It’s literally posters just saying they don’t care for her, which prompts one crazy poster to attack them personally. She does this in other threads too apparently.

You are so weird. I am a poster who you've made these allegations about in the past, and I haven't posted for many pages. More than one person disagrees with you. I guess anyone that disagrees with you in other threads is also "she?"

Reading over the last bunch of posts, people were talking about the show and not Collins, because she has been off screen and wasn't relevant to the episode discussions at all. Then someone feels the need to jump in with something negative about the character. People try to deflect with humor and get back to the show, but others insist on harping on Collins. It's a weird dynamic that has happened repeatedly in this thread.

Yes you’re so right! Are you able to continue discussing the show, or are you going to keep harping on the same thing?

I was talking about the show, and came back to this mess. Why is it ok for people that don't like Collins to jump on others and continually derail, but when someone calls it out or responds, that's not ok?

Your points are well taken! Are you able to continue discussing the show? Or do you need to keep harping on this? You never answered! Would love to keep discussing this show!

Are you able to talk to people like they are other adults or do you need to keep up your role of kindergarten teacher? If you want to discuss the show, maybe you could post about it instead of condescendingly telling others what to do. The unfortunate truth is that it is very likely that this thread will always be plagued by people who just have to jump in and trash a certain character no matter the direction of the discussion. So there can be good discussion but it's always going to be disrupted.

Predictions for the finale:
* I still guess slap dude will have been the shooter and the long wait times will get the hospital in trouble and will have been the “reason” for the shooting. Maybe by next season they are bought out by that healthcare co. Ugh I hope not.
* Robbie is going to work it somehow so that Langdon gets treatment but is allowed to come back. Robbie will see that the ER is stressful and people need more grace, but it will not be some skin of our teeth solution. Robbie will sign himself up for psych counseling. Santos and Langdon will reach tenuous detente.
* McCay is going to have to keep wearing the ankle bracelet for another year or something, huge injustice when she was just trying to do her job. Javadi will see you shouldn’t judge people on things like this, you don’t know how the system has effed them over to get them where they are.
* Mel, Whitaker, and Mo continue to be awesome.
* Collin’s comes in with emergency bleeding from miscarriage but is okay.