Anonymous
Post 12/22/2024 08:31     Subject: RTO and No Childcare.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm a bit of an outlier here in that our only kid still at home is a middle schooler so I fully remember the pre-Covid times of paying for aftercare at the parochial school our kid attends. We'll make RTO work but it comes with logistical challenges and financial tradeoffs.

For neighborhood families with younger kids in public school, there are very limited after-school options even at the beginning of the school year. Incoming kindergarten parents are often scrambling and being wait listed at places.


Everyone and I mean everyone knows you can't wait until the weekend before to arrange daycare / childcare. You need to plan in advance.


Yep, lack of planning. Should have been prepared for this.
Anonymous
Post 12/22/2024 08:30     Subject: RTO and No Childcare.

Anonymous wrote:I guess that tells you that people don’t get much work done at home because they’re taking care of their kids.


Yep, which is why they are throwing such a fit.
Anonymous
Post 12/22/2024 08:29     Subject: RTO and No Childcare.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Moan, moan, moan.

Oh! the horrors of taking care of your own children.

Find opposite shifts to work. Tons of couples do this.


Every time this very reasonable suggestion (which is already being done by millions of people every day) is made, DCUM clutches its collective pearls in horror. “No! I could never do that and not be on the same schedule as my husband. What about my mental health?!?!”

You had the kids. You need the childcare in order to work. If you really can’t afford it (and just don’t want to pay for it), then share childcare with someone working different shifts or stagger with your spouse. No, it may not be “easy” to do this, or to find jobs with those schedules or to work them, but do it anyway.


Because they don't want the gravy train to end. They aren't working the hours they say they are and with RTO that cheating ends.
Anonymous
Post 12/22/2024 08:26     Subject: RTO and No Childcare.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Moms without childcare can be become child-carers. You could stay home with your own kid(s) and watch another child or two.

Benefits: you get to raise your own kids and earn money while while doing it. Win -win.


And there it is -- the actual goal of RTO is to push women back out of the workforce.


Nah. It’s because there are empty or under utilized offices all across America. People don’t care enough about women to target them.
Anonymous
Post 12/22/2024 08:14     Subject: RTO and No Childcare.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm a bit of an outlier here in that our only kid still at home is a middle schooler so I fully remember the pre-Covid times of paying for aftercare at the parochial school our kid attends. We'll make RTO work but it comes with logistical challenges and financial tradeoffs.

For neighborhood families with younger kids in public school, there are very limited after-school options even at the beginning of the school year. Incoming kindergarten parents are often scrambling and being wait listed at places.


Everyone and I mean everyone knows you can't wait until the weekend before to arrange daycare / childcare. You need to plan in advance.


You do understand that an unexpected RTO demand means you can't plan in advance of the school year, yes?
Anonymous
Post 12/22/2024 08:09     Subject: RTO and No Childcare.

Anonymous wrote:I'm a bit of an outlier here in that our only kid still at home is a middle schooler so I fully remember the pre-Covid times of paying for aftercare at the parochial school our kid attends. We'll make RTO work but it comes with logistical challenges and financial tradeoffs.

For neighborhood families with younger kids in public school, there are very limited after-school options even at the beginning of the school year. Incoming kindergarten parents are often scrambling and being wait listed at places.


Everyone and I mean everyone knows you can't wait until the weekend before to arrange daycare / childcare. You need to plan in advance.
Anonymous
Post 12/22/2024 08:08     Subject: RTO and No Childcare.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:3 years ago I did quit my job and I do watch the (feds) neighbors' kid while the parents go to work. I'm home with my own 2 kids, so why not? 8-5. Simple meals, library, park, play in the yard, nap, 2x walk/ wagon around the neighborhood, educational 60 minutes TV time while I make dinner. What's to complain about? I am paid 200/day cash. No pressure, no commuting, no boss, no deadlines, no aholes for coworkers. Parent provides food, snacks, pays daily in cash. It's terrific.

DH (fed) and I do all chores; no outsourcing.DH happy to be in office full-time (has been for last 3 years; his preference; he is very social and hated working from home.).


OK but you have to hang with kids all day. That’s pretty much why I go to work.


I hope to god you are not a mother with that attitude.


Many people are better parents because they work FT. I hope to god you understand that people are wired differently.



No point in having kids. What a loser.


Says the person calling other parents names for having a different lived experience.


English please?


Lived experience refers to the first-hand involvement or direct experiences and choices of a given person, and the knowledge that they gain from it
Anonymous
Post 12/22/2024 07:37     Subject: RTO and No Childcare.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Moms without childcare can be become child-carers. You could stay home with your own kid(s) and watch another child or two.

Benefits: you get to raise your own kids and earn money while while doing it. Win -win.


And there it is -- the actual goal of RTO is to push women back out of the workforce.


How often do you go to therapy for your paranoia?
Anonymous
Post 12/22/2024 07:35     Subject: RTO and No Childcare.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:3 years ago I did quit my job and I do watch the (feds) neighbors' kid while the parents go to work. I'm home with my own 2 kids, so why not? 8-5. Simple meals, library, park, play in the yard, nap, 2x walk/ wagon around the neighborhood, educational 60 minutes TV time while I make dinner. What's to complain about? I am paid 200/day cash. No pressure, no commuting, no boss, no deadlines, no aholes for coworkers. Parent provides food, snacks, pays daily in cash. It's terrific.

DH (fed) and I do all chores; no outsourcing.DH happy to be in office full-time (has been for last 3 years; his preference; he is very social and hated working from home.).


OK but you have to hang with kids all day. That’s pretty much why I go to work.


I hope to god you are not a mother with that attitude.


Many people are better parents because they work FT. I hope to god you understand that people are wired differently.



No point in having kids. What a loser.


Says the person calling other parents names for having a different lived experience.


English please?
Anonymous
Post 12/22/2024 00:27     Subject: RTO and No Childcare.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:3 years ago I did quit my job and I do watch the (feds) neighbors' kid while the parents go to work. I'm home with my own 2 kids, so why not? 8-5. Simple meals, library, park, play in the yard, nap, 2x walk/ wagon around the neighborhood, educational 60 minutes TV time while I make dinner. What's to complain about? I am paid 200/day cash. No pressure, no commuting, no boss, no deadlines, no aholes for coworkers. Parent provides food, snacks, pays daily in cash. It's terrific.

DH (fed) and I do all chores; no outsourcing.DH happy to be in office full-time (has been for last 3 years; his preference; he is very social and hated working from home.).


OK but you have to hang with kids all day. That’s pretty much why I go to work.


I hope to god you are not a mother with that attitude.


Many people are better parents because they work FT. I hope to god you understand that people are wired differently.



No point in having kids. What a loser.


Says the person calling other parents names for having a different lived experience.
Anonymous
Post 12/21/2024 22:37     Subject: RTO and No Childcare.

Anonymous wrote:Moms without childcare can be become child-carers. You could stay home with your own kid(s) and watch another child or two.

Benefits: you get to raise your own kids and earn money while while doing it. Win -win.


And there it is -- the actual goal of RTO is to push women back out of the workforce.
Anonymous
Post 12/21/2024 22:31     Subject: RTO and No Childcare.

Anonymous wrote:There is no one is my circle who sits and stares at a computer screen all day at their dining room table.

Go get to work like the rest of us do. Take a few (unpaid?) weeks off while you find a babysitter. Y'know, real world stuff.


Do you know any office workers?
Anonymous
Post 12/21/2024 22:15     Subject: RTO and No Childcare.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Moan, moan, moan.

Oh! the horrors of taking care of your own children.

Find opposite shifts to work. Tons of couples do this.


Every time this very reasonable suggestion (which is already being done by millions of people every day) is made, DCUM clutches its collective pearls in horror. “No! I could never do that and not be on the same schedule as my husband. What about my mental health?!?!”

You had the kids. You need the childcare in order to work. If you really can’t afford it (and just don’t want to pay for it), then share childcare with someone working different shifts or stagger with your spouse. No, it may not be “easy” to do this, or to find jobs with those schedules or to work them, but do it anyway.


Anonymous
Post 12/21/2024 21:11     Subject: RTO and No Childcare.

Anonymous wrote:Moan, moan, moan.

Oh! the horrors of taking care of your own children.

Find opposite shifts to work. Tons of couples do this.


Every time this very reasonable suggestion (which is already being done by millions of people every day) is made, DCUM clutches its collective pearls in horror. “No! I could never do that and not be on the same schedule as my husband. What about my mental health?!?!”

You had the kids. You need the childcare in order to work. If you really can’t afford it (and just don’t want to pay for it), then share childcare with someone working different shifts or stagger with your spouse. No, it may not be “easy” to do this, or to find jobs with those schedules or to work them, but do it anyway.
Anonymous
Post 12/21/2024 21:04     Subject: RTO and No Childcare.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s not a lack of childcare that’s the problem; it’s that these women want to have it both ways. They don’t want to pay anyone else to watch their children, they prefer to fleece their employers.


This! They tried to game the system and save some money. Too bad so sad


Exactly.