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at GFR they have coaches with:
a) no license listed
b) coaches with license that shows at
https://learning.ussoccer.com/directory
c) coaches listed with licenses that do not verify at https://learning.ussoccer.com/directory

the 2014 Spirit coach wins quite a lot, but only shows as having grassroots license

not sure it all matters

I know players on 14g Spirit, the coach is not why they win. Some parents complain about how aggressive the girls are trained to be vs actual skill work tbh. However, there are a couple AMAZING girls on the team that should be playing up. We'll see how they do this spring in u-11 since they pushed the whole team up instead of just one or two girls.

But yeah, coaching super important... unless you've got a few good kids that just carry a whole team, which happens everywhere.

Eventually having 3 amazing girls won't enough. That's why results at u littles shouldn't matter.

100%

It's why certain big clubs do really well at the younger ages and then fall apart when they hit 11v11.

News flash, if your coach isn't working on the whole team learning passing and proper spacing/basic soccer stuff and foot skills they are not a good coach and your kid's team is riding other kids' coattails, which will very abruptly end at some point.

And to this point, valor is one of the better clubs I've seen as far as knowing field play and passing. Kids might not be all-star/ all American athletes but at least they can pass around those kids.

Agree with this. Valor may not win a lot at the younger ages but they do pass and play out of the back. Loudoun ulittles' style of play is annoying. They just have a bunch of kids big and strong enough to boot the ball any time it's in their half of the field.

Loudoun is SO bad about this. They don't even. Rey and hide it.

I don't get parent's paying $1,000s year after year to watch a team of kids watch one kid on the field ball hog and single-handedly determine If your team wins to loses. The kick up to XYZ player and then they run straight through other team's players 90% of the time until u12 when the'big, fast, and aggressive' formula doesn't automatically win you games anymore.

I guess metals are more important than their child getting development during developmental ages, at those mega clubs, though.

Ha, yeah we were at a different club/team, but that was the formula. Kick it to the 1-2 really fast players (not big though) up top and get breakaway goals. Then U12 hit, and that formula crashed and burned. We couldn't score at all. Of course our practice field size allocation was tiny so it's not like the team could practice real tactics any way.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:similar
at GFR they have coaches with:
a) no license listed
b) coaches with license that shows at
https://learning.ussoccer.com/directory
c) coaches listed with licenses that do not verify at https://learning.ussoccer.com/directory

the 2014 Spirit coach wins quite a lot, but only shows as having grassroots license

not sure it all matters

I know players on 14g Spirit, the coach is not why they win. Some parents complain about how aggressive the girls are trained to be vs actual skill work tbh. However, there are a couple AMAZING girls on the team that should be playing up. We'll see how they do this spring in u-11 since they pushed the whole team up instead of just one or two girls.

But yeah, coaching super important... unless you've got a few good kids that just carry a whole team, which happens everywhere.

Eventually having 3 amazing girls won't enough. That's why results at u littles shouldn't matter.

100%

It's why certain big clubs do really well at the younger ages and then fall apart when they hit 11v11.

News flash, if your coach isn't working on the whole team learning passing and proper spacing/basic soccer stuff and foot skills they are not a good coach and your kid's team is riding other kids' coattails, which will very abruptly end at some point.

And to this point, valor is one of the better clubs I've seen as far as knowing field play and passing. Kids might not be all-star/ all American athletes but at least they can pass around those kids.

Agree with this. Valor may not win a lot at the younger ages but they do pass and play out of the back. Loudoun ulittles' style of play is annoying. They just have a bunch of kids big and strong enough to boot the ball any time it's in their half of the field.

Loudoun is SO bad about this. They don't even. Rey and hide it.

I don't get parent's paying $1,000s year after year to watch a team of kids watch one kid on the field ball hog and single-handedly determine If your team wins to loses. The kick up to XYZ player and then they run straight through other team's players 90% of the time until u12 when the'big, fast, and aggressive' formula doesn't automatically win you games anymore.

I guess metals are more important than their child getting development during developmental ages, at those mega clubs, though.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:similar
at GFR they have coaches with:
a) no license listed
b) coaches with license that shows at
https://learning.ussoccer.com/directory
c) coaches listed with licenses that do not verify at https://learning.ussoccer.com/directory

the 2014 Spirit coach wins quite a lot, but only shows as having grassroots license

not sure it all matters

I know players on 14g Spirit, the coach is not why they win. Some parents complain about how aggressive the girls are trained to be vs actual skill work tbh. However, there are a couple AMAZING girls on the team that should be playing up. We'll see how they do this spring in u-11 since they pushed the whole team up instead of just one or two girls.

But yeah, coaching super important... unless you've got a few good kids that just carry a whole team, which happens everywhere.

Eventually having 3 amazing girls won't enough. That's why results at u littles shouldn't matter.

100%

It's why certain big clubs do really well at the younger ages and then fall apart when they hit 11v11.

News flash, if your coach isn't working on the whole team learning passing and proper spacing/basic soccer stuff and foot skills they are not a good coach and your kid's team is riding other kids' coattails, which will very abruptly end at some point.

And to this point, valor is one of the better clubs I've seen as far as knowing field play and passing. Kids might not be all-star/ all American athletes but at least they can pass around those kids.

Agree with this. Valor may not win a lot at the younger ages but they do pass and play out of the back. Loudoun ulittles' style of play is annoying. They just have a bunch of kids big and strong enough to boot the ball any time it's in their half of the field.

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Anonymous wrote:We are at a nearby club and have had multiple Valor kids show up and practice with our ds's team this year. Two in the fall, two different kids this spring. That seems like a lot from the same place.

What team did they play for? Silver? Blue? The team matters; maybe there isn’t any movement to a higher team.

If they are all gold players from same team….

IDing is smart and free... especially if you're trying to get on a higher team.

A few kids looking is standard. Loudoun and fcv hemorrhaged players this winter to the point of pulling rec kids up to fill spots. That's not happening at Valor.

It's a money grab at low level teams for sure; Valor coaching style is much better than other local programs. As someone said already you can plow through competition with a couple really good players when they are young. Very few clubs are working on actual field play moving into 9v9 and 11v11, which at least I've seen happening at Valor.

Actually I read on here once that they were spamming CYA rec all star players to come practice with their bottom feeder teams because they were trying to fill rosters.

I missed that one apparently. Not sure about boys, but that's not what's happening in the younger girl's teams. Rosters aren't changing.

.... Now Loudoun and FCV... those have. FCV was offering free travel to try and fill 2015 and 2014 teams this winter to rec parents via email. Loudoun is notorious for backfilling all-star kids on travel teams and lost enough players in one age group to have to have movement from the top team all the way down to their fourth team with their travel kids shuffling around to fill the holes without looking like it was happening.

The message board is filled with trolls. Parents in the loudoun area all talk and if you do any supplemental training outside your club you hear all this stuff and then see it is true when you go to tournaments or play in the regular season against those clubs. Valor isn't the club with players leaving in masses and definitely not mid year.

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Anonymous wrote:We are at a nearby club and have had multiple Valor kids show up and practice with our ds's team this year. Two in the fall, two different kids this spring. That seems like a lot from the same place.

What team did they play for? Silver? Blue? The team matters; maybe there isn’t any movement to a higher team.

If they are all gold players from same team….

IDing is smart and free... especially if you're trying to get on a higher team.

A few kids looking is standard. Loudoun and fcv hemorrhaged players this winter to the point of pulling rec kids up to fill spots. That's not happening at Valor.

It's a money grab at low level teams for sure; Valor coaching style is much better than other local programs. As someone said already you can plow through competition with a couple really good players when they are young. Very few clubs are working on actual field play moving into 9v9 and 11v11, which at least I've seen happening at Valor.

Actually I read on here once that they were spamming CYA rec all star players to come practice with their bottom feeder teams because they were trying to fill rosters.

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Anonymous wrote:We are at a nearby club and have had multiple Valor kids show up and practice with our ds's team this year. Two in the fall, two different kids this spring. That seems like a lot from the same place.

What team did they play for? Silver? Blue? The team matters; maybe there isn’t any movement to a higher team.

If they are all gold players from same team….

IDing is smart and free... especially if you're trying to get on a higher team.

A few kids looking is standard. Loudoun and fcv hemorrhaged players this winter to the point of pulling rec kids up to fill spots. That's not happening at Valor.

It's a money grab at low level teams for sure; Valor coaching style is much better than other local programs. As someone said already you can plow through competition with a couple really good players when they are young. Very few clubs are working on actual field play moving into 9v9 and 11v11, which at least I've seen happening at Valor.

Anonymous wrote:We are at a nearby club and have had multiple Valor kids show up and practice with our ds's team this year. Two in the fall, two different kids this spring. That seems like a lot from the same place.

What team did they play for? Silver? Blue? The team matters; maybe there isn’t any movement to a higher team.

If they are all gold players from same team….

We are at a nearby club and have had multiple Valor kids show up and practice with our ds's team this year. Two in the fall, two different kids this spring. That seems like a lot from the same place.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:similar
at GFR they have coaches with:
a) no license listed
b) coaches with license that shows at
https://learning.ussoccer.com/directory
c) coaches listed with licenses that do not verify at https://learning.ussoccer.com/directory

the 2014 Spirit coach wins quite a lot, but only shows as having grassroots license

not sure it all matters

I know players on 14g Spirit, the coach is not why they win. Some parents complain about how aggressive the girls are trained to be vs actual skill work tbh. However, there are a couple AMAZING girls on the team that should be playing up. We'll see how they do this spring in u-11 since they pushed the whole team up instead of just one or two girls.

But yeah, coaching super important... unless you've got a few good kids that just carry a whole team, which happens everywhere.

Eventually having 3 amazing girls won't enough. That's why results at u littles shouldn't matter.

100%

It's why certain big clubs do really well at the younger ages and then fall apart when they hit 11v11.

News flash, if your coach isn't working on the whole team learning passing and proper spacing/basic soccer stuff and foot skills they are not a good coach and your kid's team is riding other kids' coattails, which will very abruptly end at some point.

And to this point, valor is one of the better clubs I've seen as far as knowing field play and passing. Kids might not be all-star/ all American athletes but at least they can pass around those kids.

They have 50 teams. Some will have kids who are good passers. They don't seem to have any philosophy or curriculum across the board.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:similar
at GFR they have coaches with:
a) no license listed
b) coaches with license that shows at
https://learning.ussoccer.com/directory
c) coaches listed with licenses that do not verify at https://learning.ussoccer.com/directory

the 2014 Spirit coach wins quite a lot, but only shows as having grassroots license

not sure it all matters

I know players on 14g Spirit, the coach is not why they win. Some parents complain about how aggressive the girls are trained to be vs actual skill work tbh. However, there are a couple AMAZING girls on the team that should be playing up. We'll see how they do this spring in u-11 since they pushed the whole team up instead of just one or two girls.

But yeah, coaching super important... unless you've got a few good kids that just carry a whole team, which happens everywhere.

Eventually having 3 amazing girls won't enough. That's why results at u littles shouldn't matter.

100%

It's why certain big clubs do really well at the younger ages and then fall apart when they hit 11v11.

News flash, if your coach isn't working on the whole team learning passing and proper spacing/basic soccer stuff and foot skills they are not a good coach and your kid's team is riding other kids' coattails, which will very abruptly end at some point.

And to this point, valor is one of the better clubs I've seen as far as knowing field play and passing. Kids might not be all-star/ all American athletes but at least they can pass around those kids.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:similar
at GFR they have coaches with:
a) no license listed
b) coaches with license that shows at
https://learning.ussoccer.com/directory
c) coaches listed with licenses that do not verify at https://learning.ussoccer.com/directory

the 2014 Spirit coach wins quite a lot, but only shows as having grassroots license

not sure it all matters

I know players on 14g Spirit, the coach is not why they win. Some parents complain about how aggressive the girls are trained to be vs actual skill work tbh. However, there are a couple AMAZING girls on the team that should be playing up. We'll see how they do this spring in u-11 since they pushed the whole team up instead of just one or two girls.

But yeah, coaching super important... unless you've got a few good kids that just carry a whole team, which happens everywhere.

Eventually having 3 amazing girls won't enough. That's why results at u littles shouldn't matter.

100%

It's why certain big clubs do really well at the younger ages and then fall apart when they hit 11v11.

News flash, if your coach isn't working on the whole team learning passing and proper spacing/basic soccer stuff and foot skills they are not a good coach and your kid's team is riding other kids' coattails, which will very abruptly end at some point.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:similar
at GFR they have coaches with:
a) no license listed
b) coaches with license that shows at
https://learning.ussoccer.com/directory
c) coaches listed with licenses that do not verify at https://learning.ussoccer.com/directory

the 2014 Spirit coach wins quite a lot, but only shows as having grassroots license

not sure it all matters

I know players on 14g Spirit, the coach is not why they win. Some parents complain about how aggressive the girls are trained to be vs actual skill work tbh. However, there are a couple AMAZING girls on the team that should be playing up. We'll see how they do this spring in u-11 since they pushed the whole team up instead of just one or two girls.

But yeah, coaching super important... unless you've got a few good kids that just carry a whole team, which happens everywhere.

Eventually having 3 amazing girls won't enough. That's why results at u littles shouldn't matter.

Anonymous wrote:similar
at GFR they have coaches with:
a) no license listed
b) coaches with license that shows at
https://learning.ussoccer.com/directory
c) coaches listed with licenses that do not verify at https://learning.ussoccer.com/directory

the 2014 Spirit coach wins quite a lot, but only shows as having grassroots license

not sure it all matters

I know players on 14g Spirit, the coach is not why they win. Some parents complain about how aggressive the girls are trained to be vs actual skill work tbh. However, there are a couple AMAZING girls on the team that should be playing up. We'll see how they do this spring in u-11 since they pushed the whole team up instead of just one or two girls.

But yeah, coaching super important... unless you've got a few good kids that just carry a whole team, which happens everywhere.

Anonymous wrote:I just checked it for myself. I'm a parent and my husband and I both got "E" licenses ages ago to coach rec. Neither of us appear. I have a current safe sport (team manager) and I don't appear for that either, so I logged in toGotSport and it is current with its green "Fulfilled" box and an expiration date in July. I know how to spell both of our names, I know the variations we "go by" though I doubt we would have used those, and I have the certificates sitting in the same place as birth certificates and car titles, so they do exist. Maybe this site does not have things going back a ways? I don't know but something is not exactly right there. I may email them and ask...

You have to create an account and register your license number along with your information. It will then do some sort of checking and then it’ll be listed under your profile. If your coach does not have a profile on that page it won’t show up.

similar
at GFR they have coaches with:
a) no license listed
b) coaches with license that shows at
https://learning.ussoccer.com/directory
c) coaches listed with licenses that do not verify at https://learning.ussoccer.com/directory

the 2014 Spirit coach wins quite a lot, but only shows as having grassroots license

not sure it all matters