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Anonymous wrote:I find it rather stupid that the drug dealer is supposed to make sure their buyers don't die. Matthew is the only one responsible for his own health.

Ultimately yes, but his assistant could have refused to inject him. Could have found rehab for him, counseling, a NA meeting. But no, the assistant chose to help him be an active addict multiple times in one day.

If someone is suicidal would you pull the trigger for them? Help them tie the rope?

He had done rehab and was in counseling. This drug was being used to treat depression and Matthew took it too far. Don't compare suicide to drug addiction.

Why didn't the assistant call Matthew's counselor? WHY inject him with ketamine, multiple times? Just why??

Call the counselor, call the rehab clinic, call whoever should be called in that situation. Don't help him inject way too much of the drug. I've lost family to addiction and suicide. Someone who od'd on their meds. I will compare them, thanks.

If he was so drugged out, how did he make his way to the hot tub and drown alone.
Stop being so self righteous. I do not feel sorry for drug addicts or the idiots that enable them. I do not believe drug addiction is an involuntary condition. Suicidal thoughts are involuntary. They are not the same regardless if you are going to say you lost family to them to make your statements hold more credibility.

I think the cause of death was ketamine OD, not drowning.

Drowning as listed as a contributing factor. You'd think one of them would have thought, hey, maybe getting in a hot tub after a large dose of drugs isn't the best idea.

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Anonymous wrote:The dealers should definitely be prosecuted. I have mixed feelings about the personal assistant. Matthew was his employer. If he refused to give him injections, the most likely scenario was that he would have been replaced by a new assistant who agreed. The assistant wasn’t in a position to refuse without risking his job. Should he have chosen to walk away instead of enable his boss? Perhaps, but he’s not solely responsible for what happened.

Are you for real? You really think a person should do anything to keep a job? A person of integrity should not rationalize bad choices.

+1 You absolutely should have the good judgment and moral character to refuse to commit a crime at your employer's request and even walk away from any job where you are being asked to do wrong and you can't change their minds.

DP but I think being a personal assistant to someone for that many years probably complicates his perspective about the job. Not that it would get him out of any legal responsibility.

+1 and I think he loved there also.

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Anonymous wrote:I find it rather stupid that the drug dealer is supposed to make sure their buyers don't die. Matthew is the only one responsible for his own health.

Ultimately yes, but his assistant could have refused to inject him. Could have found rehab for him, counseling, a NA meeting. But no, the assistant chose to help him be an active addict multiple times in one day.

If someone is suicidal would you pull the trigger for them? Help them tie the rope?

He had done rehab and was in counseling. This drug was being used to treat depression and Matthew took it too far. Don't compare suicide to drug addiction.

Why didn't the assistant call Matthew's counselor? WHY inject him with ketamine, multiple times? Just why??

Call the counselor, call the rehab clinic, call whoever should be called in that situation. Don't help him inject way too much of the drug. I've lost family to addiction and suicide. Someone who od'd on their meds. I will compare them, thanks.

If he was so drugged out, how did he make his way to the hot tub and drown alone.
Stop being so self righteous. I do not feel sorry for drug addicts or the idiots that enable them. I do not believe drug addiction is an involuntary condition. Suicidal thoughts are involuntary. They are not the same regardless if you are going to say you lost family to them to make your statements hold more credibility.

I think the cause of death was ketamine OD, not drowning.

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Anonymous wrote:The dealers should definitely be prosecuted. I have mixed feelings about the personal assistant. Matthew was his employer. If he refused to give him injections, the most likely scenario was that he would have been replaced by a new assistant who agreed. The assistant wasn’t in a position to refuse without risking his job. Should he have chosen to walk away instead of enable his boss? Perhaps, but he’s not solely responsible for what happened.

Are you for real? You really think a person should do anything to keep a job? A person of integrity should not rationalize bad choices.

+1 You absolutely should have the good judgment and moral character to refuse to commit a crime at your employer's request and even walk away from any job where you are being asked to do wrong and you can't change their minds.

DP but I think being a personal assistant to someone for that many years probably complicates his perspective about the job. Not that it would get him out of any legal responsibility.

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Anonymous wrote:The dealers should definitely be prosecuted. I have mixed feelings about the personal assistant. Matthew was his employer. If he refused to give him injections, the most likely scenario was that he would have been replaced by a new assistant who agreed. The assistant wasn’t in a position to refuse without risking his job. Should he have chosen to walk away instead of enable his boss? Perhaps, but he’s not solely responsible for what happened.

Are you for real? You really think a person should do anything to keep a job? A person of integrity should not rationalize bad choices.

+1 You absolutely should have the good judgment and moral character to refuse to commit a crime at your employer's request and even walk away from any job where you are being asked to do wrong and you can't change their minds.

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Anonymous wrote:I get that he was an addict, but seems over-the-top that he had his “personal assistant” do all the dirty work for him, including doing his injections.

Perhaps I don’t understand the logistics of ketamine injections - are self-injections logistically impossible?

It's intramuscular injections. Probably needs to rotate through a variety of injection sites if he's doing it 3+ times per day. I imagine his body would have been quite bruised, IM's are tough and require a lot of force. He probably needed help on certain injection sites (eg, butt cheek).

Thank you for the explanation. I felt sorry for the actor until I saw something today where he allegedly told his PA to make the next (and ultimately, final) injection a “big one” and to prepare the hot tub for him before leaving the house. And I just envisioned the PA as constantly scurrying around to meet his boss’s awful demands.

The assistant lived with him and had been with him since 1994. If the demands were so awful, he wouldn’t have stayed working for him for 30 years.

Just because the assistant didn’t think the demands were awful doesn’t mean they weren’t. I don’t feel at all sorry for the assistant, I was commenting on how gross it was for Perry to ask another human being to do those things for him. Having the assistant allegedly dose him up and “prepare the hot tub” before embarking o various other tasks is just…gross.

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Anonymous wrote:I get that he was an addict, but seems over-the-top that he had his “personal assistant” do all the dirty work for him, including doing his injections.

Perhaps I don’t understand the logistics of ketamine injections - are self-injections logistically impossible?

It's intramuscular injections. Probably needs to rotate through a variety of injection sites if he's doing it 3+ times per day. I imagine his body would have been quite bruised, IM's are tough and require a lot of force. He probably needed help on certain injection sites (eg, butt cheek).

Thank you for the explanation. I felt sorry for the actor until I saw something today where he allegedly told his PA to make the next (and ultimately, final) injection a “big one” and to prepare the hot tub for him before leaving the house. And I just envisioned the PA as constantly scurrying around to meet his boss’s awful demands.

The assistant lived with him and had been with him since 1994. If the demands were so awful, he wouldn’t have stayed working for him for 30 years.

Anonymous wrote:V curious how much this assistant is paid. To completely sell your soul like that…

No amount of money is worth the guilt a normal person would live with forever.

V curious how much this assistant is paid. To completely sell your soul like that…

Anonymous wrote:The dealers should definitely be prosecuted. I have mixed feelings about the personal assistant. Matthew was his employer. If he refused to give him injections, the most likely scenario was that he would have been replaced by a new assistant who agreed. The assistant wasn’t in a position to refuse without risking his job. Should he have chosen to walk away instead of enable his boss? Perhaps, but he’s not solely responsible for what happened.

But this is most of us in most jobs. If your manager or employers asks you to do something illegal and you do it, that's not a defense if you're found out and prosecuted for it. It's illegal even if the personal assistant was being told to do and could be fired for not doing so.

I mean that sucks and it's a hard situation but not relevant in a legal sense.

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Anonymous wrote:I get that he was an addict, but seems over-the-top that he had his “personal assistant” do all the dirty work for him, including doing his injections.

Perhaps I don’t understand the logistics of ketamine injections - are self-injections logistically impossible?

It's intramuscular injections. Probably needs to rotate through a variety of injection sites if he's doing it 3+ times per day. I imagine his body would have been quite bruised, IM's are tough and require a lot of force. He probably needed help on certain injection sites (eg, butt cheek).

Thank you for the explanation. I felt sorry for the actor until I saw something today where he allegedly told his PA to make the next (and ultimately, final) injection a “big one” and to prepare the hot tub for him before leaving the house. And I just envisioned the PA as constantly scurrying around to meet his boss’s awful demands.

I don’t understand this specific addiction. He had already been unconscious from this drug, he had frozen up, he was clearly being injected again and again.

It just felt so good to him when he had a large dose? Or he was trying to kill himself or flirt with death? Is this behavior the same as people who “drink themselves to death”? Something about this is so bizarre

Anonymous wrote:The dealers should definitely be prosecuted. I have mixed feelings about the personal assistant. Matthew was his employer. If he refused to give him injections, the most likely scenario was that he would have been replaced by a new assistant who agreed. The assistant wasn’t in a position to refuse without risking his job. Should he have chosen to walk away instead of enable his boss? Perhaps, but he’s not solely responsible for what happened.

Are you for real? You really think a person should do anything to keep a job? A person of integrity should not rationalize bad choices.

Anonymous wrote:The dealers should definitely be prosecuted. I have mixed feelings about the personal assistant. Matthew was his employer. If he refused to give him injections, the most likely scenario was that he would have been replaced by a new assistant who agreed. The assistant wasn’t in a position to refuse without risking his job. Should he have chosen to walk away instead of enable his boss? Perhaps, but he’s not solely responsible for what happened.

Whether it was a desire to hold onto the salary paid by Perry or because he had some stake in the drug transactions themselves, the personal assistant was motivated by greed and not by the fiduciary duty and best interests calculus owed to Perry.

He’s an addict, and addicts relapse, and the PA should have refused to participate - that was his moral duty.

I feel sorry for Matthew Perry. Nobody chooses addiction, even if they take drugs the first time voluntarily. Some people suffer really horrible addiction and no, it’s not a moral failing, we have abundant evidence from neuroscience establishing beyond a shadow of doubt that the addict brain reacts differently than a brain of a person without the same characteristics. It’s biological - hormonal. It’s just more science denial to assert that addiction is not a medical condition or that it is entirely within the power of the addict.

The dealers should definitely be prosecuted. I have mixed feelings about the personal assistant. Matthew was his employer. If he refused to give him injections, the most likely scenario was that he would have been replaced by a new assistant who agreed. The assistant wasn’t in a position to refuse without risking his job. Should he have chosen to walk away instead of enable his boss? Perhaps, but he’s not solely responsible for what happened.