Anonymous
09/18/2021 10:25
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Social media is toxic and incredibly damaging to young people (especially girls); the research establishes this fact beyond all dispute.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/facebook-knows-instagram-is-toxic-for-teen-girls-company-documents-show-11631620739?mod=latest_headlines
While Gabbie is a 22 year old adult, we can agree she is mentally ill and fairly immature.
She really should not have been spending her time on social media - let alone making it such a focus.
I'm the one who thought both of them should have been doing something productive with their lives. That said I have no problem with her social media accounts. They're nice and the content is actually well produced and thought out.
But she had no focus other than 'I want to be a social media star'. That's not how it works. You need a pull - something that draws an audience. You either need to be hot enough to start your own OnlyFans (and she wasn't) or you need something to divert sexual interests to hobbys - like being a mom of 10 kids pulling her hair out or the owner of the GrumpyCat.
My teens seem drawn to mostly video game social media, and someone called Mr. Beast on YouTube (he seems harmless enough, though a bit fixated on large amounts of money).
Anonymous
09/18/2021 10:24
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Every time one of these young women gets killed, the internet spends days/weeks judging them prior to the discovery of the body. It is a modern day, sick sport.
Reminds me of the thread on the couple who died with their baby. These are tragedies people. For the victims and their families.
Don't sit smugly behind your keyboard with maybe 10% of the relevant information, and declare what they are like or what they should have done. It is unseemly to the pale.
Reminds me of the thread on the couple who died with their baby. These are tragedies people. For the victims and their families.
Don't sit smugly behind your keyboard with maybe 10% of the relevant information, and declare what they are like or what they should have done. It is unseemly to the pale.
Anonymous
09/18/2021 10:22
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Shorter 8:14 : I now realize Brian killed her but refuse to stop defending him and blaming her, for some bizarre reason
Exactly. Hers made me laugh with the “she could have walked out the forest into a mental institution.” Cognitive dissonance is real folks.
A very isolated institution where none of the staff have realized that there is a massive search going on for her and thought to mention to the police that they have a patient matching the description. Or I guess she has enlisted them in her conspiracy of silence. Oh, and they also apparently offer free services.
I’m sure she’ll just claim it’s all somehow because of HIPPA though.
The wouldn’t have to be isolated. If an adult is committed to an institution, they can not give out any information legally.
The Privacy Rule permits a HIPAA covered entity, such as a hospital, to disclose certain protected health information, including the date and time of admission and discharge, in response to a law enforcement official’s request, for the purpose of locating or identifying a suspect, fugitive, material witness, or missing person. See 45 CFR § 164.512(f)(2).
cite: https://www.hhs.gov/hipaa/for-professionals/faq/2097/if-law-enforcement-officer-brings-patient-hospital-or-other-mental-health-facility-be-placed.html
Correct, in response to an officers request. They’d need to know she is there. It is 100% possible she checked herself in somewhere and no one knows. Not probable, but is possible.
Anonymous
09/18/2021 10:15
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:Social media is toxic and incredibly damaging to young people (especially girls); the research establishes this fact beyond all dispute.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/facebook-knows-instagram-is-toxic-for-teen-girls-company-documents-show-11631620739?mod=latest_headlines
While Gabbie is a 22 year old adult, we can agree she is mentally ill and fairly immature.
She really should not have been spending her time on social media - let alone making it such a focus.
I'm the one who thought both of them should have been doing something productive with their lives. That said I have no problem with her social media accounts. They're nice and the content is actually well produced and thought out.
But she had no focus other than 'I want to be a social media star'. That's not how it works. You need a pull - something that draws an audience. You either need to be hot enough to start your own OnlyFans (and she wasn't) or you need something to divert sexual interests to hobbys - like being a mom of 10 kids pulling her hair out or the owner of the GrumpyCat.
Anonymous
09/18/2021 10:15
Subject: Re:Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
The boyfriend is now missing. No one has seen him since Tuesday and police have opened a missing person investigation.
Anonymous
09/18/2021 10:14
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Shorter 8:14 : I now realize Brian killed her but refuse to stop defending him and blaming her, for some bizarre reason
Exactly. Hers made me laugh with the “she could have walked out the forest into a mental institution.” Cognitive dissonance is real folks.
A very isolated institution where none of the staff have realized that there is a massive search going on for her and thought to mention to the police that they have a patient matching the description. Or I guess she has enlisted them in her conspiracy of silence. Oh, and they also apparently offer free services.
I’m sure she’ll just claim it’s all somehow because of HIPPA though.
The wouldn’t have to be isolated. If an adult is committed to an institution, they can not give out any information legally.
The Privacy Rule permits a HIPAA covered entity, such as a hospital, to disclose certain protected health information, including the date and time of admission and discharge, in response to a law enforcement official’s request, for the purpose of locating or identifying a suspect, fugitive, material witness, or missing person. See 45 CFR § 164.512(f)(2).
cite: https://www.hhs.gov/hipaa/for-professionals/faq/2097/if-law-enforcement-officer-brings-patient-hospital-or-other-mental-health-facility-be-placed.html
Anonymous
09/18/2021 10:12
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:Social media is toxic and incredibly damaging to young people (especially girls); the research establishes this fact beyond all dispute.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/facebook-knows-instagram-is-toxic-for-teen-girls-company-documents-show-11631620739?mod=latest_headlines
While Gabbie is a 22 year old adult, we can agree she is mentally ill and fairly immature.
She really should not have been spending her time on social media - let alone making it such a focus.
Well, thankfully she’s been murdered by a nice young man. That’ll teach her not to use social media.
Anonymous
09/18/2021 10:10
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:Oh FFS. 🙄
Right? I honestly hope this person is a family member of his because otherwise…yikes.
Anonymous
09/18/2021 10:09
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Social media is toxic and incredibly damaging to young people (especially girls); the research establishes this fact beyond all dispute.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/facebook-knows-instagram-is-toxic-for-teen-girls-company-documents-show-11631620739?mod=latest_headlines
While Gabbie is a 22 year old adult, we can agree she is mentally ill and fairly immature.
She really should not have been spending her time on social media - let alone making it such a focus.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/facebook-knows-instagram-is-toxic-for-teen-girls-company-documents-show-11631620739?mod=latest_headlines
While Gabbie is a 22 year old adult, we can agree she is mentally ill and fairly immature.
She really should not have been spending her time on social media - let alone making it such a focus.
Anonymous
09/18/2021 10:08
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:That’s your DC elitism speaking. Not everyone goes to college. Who’s to say she wasn’t going to go after she returned?
Also, Thousands of people tour/Road trip/camp/backpack the US in a van or RV every year. Doesn’t make you homeless. It’s not just for millennials.
My friend from high school didn’t go straight to college and screwed around for a couple of years. She followed a minor league baseball player to spring training in Canada. She lived with me for a bit. Worked at hooters. She’s now the CFO of a small bank and making 450k.
You are so dam snobby and judgey.
DP.
Just 6.7 % of the population earns some sort of college degree, worldwide. A greater percentage attempt college, but fail to complete any degree.
Oh yeah, nice touch adding in populations from Afghanistan and Sri Lanka to your totals. Of course its that low globally.
Now how low is it for Americans who have every privilege in life?
I'll answer for you: Nearly 94 million, or 42%, of Americans ages 25 and over have a college degree of some type.
Anonymous
09/18/2021 10:08
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Oh FFS. 🙄
Anonymous
09/18/2021 10:05
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Shorter 8:14 : I now realize Brian killed her but refuse to stop defending him and blaming her, for some bizarre reason
Exactly. Hers made me laugh with the “she could have walked out the forest into a mental institution.” Cognitive dissonance is real folks.
A very isolated institution where none of the staff have realized that there is a massive search going on for her and thought to mention to the police that they have a patient matching the description. Or I guess she has enlisted them in her conspiracy of silence. Oh, and they also apparently offer free services.
I’m sure she’ll just claim it’s all somehow because of HIPPA though.
The wouldn’t have to be isolated. If an adult is committed to an institution, they can not give out any information legally.
Anonymous
09/18/2021 10:02
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:That’s your DC elitism speaking. Not everyone goes to college. Who’s to say she wasn’t going to go after she returned?
Also, Thousands of people tour/Road trip/camp/backpack the US in a van or RV every year. Doesn’t make you homeless. It’s not just for millennials.
My friend from high school didn’t go straight to college and screwed around for a couple of years. She followed a minor league baseball player to spring training in Canada. She lived with me for a bit. Worked at hooters. She’s now the CFO of a small bank and making 450k.
You are so dam snobby and judgey.
Okay here's a less elitist question - why aren't either of these two 22/23-year-old's in trade school? Military service? On-the-job medical training?
Because they’re having fun traveling the country before slaving away for 30 years
If they weren't in school or trade/job training - surely they've been 'having fun' since they turned 18? 5 years wasn't enough?
Based on the way it’s going to end, I’d say at least she didn’t waste her last 5 years not having fun.
Anonymous
09/18/2021 09:58
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:That’s your DC elitism speaking. Not everyone goes to college. Who’s to say she wasn’t going to go after she returned?
Also, Thousands of people tour/Road trip/camp/backpack the US in a van or RV every year. Doesn’t make you homeless. It’s not just for millennials.
My friend from high school didn’t go straight to college and screwed around for a couple of years. She followed a minor league baseball player to spring training in Canada. She lived with me for a bit. Worked at hooters. She’s now the CFO of a small bank and making 450k.
You are so dam snobby and judgey.
Okay here's a less elitist question - why aren't either of these two 22/23-year-old's in trade school? Military service? On-the-job medical training?
Np so kids that age aren't allowed to travel? This isn't a new thing and in fact JFK talks about "touring" Europe! Life is more about trade school/college. Soon enough life will be drudgery.
Here's a thought...maybe if they weren't living in a 30-square foot van in the desert and calling home to beg their parents to send them takeout and actually being responsible with the pursuit of education or a career, one wouldn't be dead (presumably) and the other on the run for murder (presumably).
So? Lots of people do this and dont end up being murdered. People are human and make mistakes and clearly hindsight 20/20. Sounds like you want to rationalize how it could never happen to your family members so you are being unfairly judgmental
DP.
It is true that many do this without being murdered. John Steinbeck travelled the US in a similar size camper with his dog Charlie; he even wrote a book about it.
But we all focus on the trips that turn into disasters - like that kid in Alaska who tried to live off the land while camping in an old school bus.
Or this immature 22/23 year old couple, who both suffer from mental illness.
Maybe they ought to have sought treatment before cooping themselves up together in a tiny space under challenging conditions , while daily trying to portray an unreal, care-free, super happy, la la land internet image of their trip.
And sadly, I feel obliged to add the disclaimer for certain nit wits on this board: no, this does not mean I believe she deserved to die (if she is even dead).
Again, thanks so much for your *very specific formatting* that gives you away as the prolific Brian-booster from the entire thread.
Anonymous
09/18/2021 09:56
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:That’s your DC elitism speaking. Not everyone goes to college. Who’s to say she wasn’t going to go after she returned?
Also, Thousands of people tour/Road trip/camp/backpack the US in a van or RV every year. Doesn’t make you homeless. It’s not just for millennials.
My friend from high school didn’t go straight to college and screwed around for a couple of years. She followed a minor league baseball player to spring training in Canada. She lived with me for a bit. Worked at hooters. She’s now the CFO of a small bank and making 450k.
You are so dam snobby and judgey.
DP.
Just 6.7 % of the population earns some sort of college degree, worldwide. A greater percentage attempt college, but fail to complete any degree.