All this talk on this thread about Russian bots.

Are there ukie bots here too? Or maybe neither?

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Anonymous wrote:Hard working Americans that lay sheet rock today, frame homes, and roof, should not have to pay taxes to support a war effort that wealthy Ukranians turn their back on.

Ukraine is a not a country is a former province with a gas station.

Spoken like a true Russian. Ukrainians are people. People who want to be free of Russian tyranny. People who want to determine their own fate.

It's a concept that Russians serving their government wouldn't understand. They're just slaves, for all intents and purposes.

DP and I am Ukrainian. I totally support PP and a lot of Ukrainians sick and tired of this ongoing money laundering. Everyone in Ukraine knows the war will stop as soon as Americans will stop pumping money into it.

What part of Ukraine? Russian or Ukrainian speaking?

Are you prepared to become a Russian satellite town? And to get thrown in jail for disagreeing with Putin?

lol so you don't think there are people in jail today for disagreeing with Zelensky?

There are. Or in exile. You cannot disagree with Ermak's regime without been called pro-Putin. Even on this board a slightest concern about Zelenskiy's policies results in Vlad name calling.

Citation Vlad - and Russian state media is not credible .

Zelensky has public support ratings that most democratically elected presidents can only dream of.

That said, I hope he retires soon after the war ends. Power corrupts which is why US has two term limit.

Vlad, you cannot read Ukrainian? It is just slightly different than Russian.

https://suspilne.media/526537-vaks-prodovziv-termin-utrimanna-pid-vartou-eksgolovi-verhovnogo-sudu-knazevu/

https://www.slovoidilo.ua/2023/12/08/novyna/polityka/pidozryuvanyj-suddya-kyyivskoho-apelyaczijnoho-sudu-vyjshov-z-pid-varty

Good that Ukraine continues to root out corruption. They are leaving Russia far behind. Sadly Russia does absolutely nothing about its own corruption and in fact gets worse by the day, with Putin as chief corrupt oligarch and thief-in-charge.

Agree - I am
Impressed they are trying to tackle corruption while fighting for dear life and freedom in Russia’s war of choice/ Imperial land grab …

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Anonymous wrote:Hard working Americans that lay sheet rock today, frame homes, and roof, should not have to pay taxes to support a war effort that wealthy Ukranians turn their back on.

Ukraine is a not a country is a former province with a gas station.

Spoken like a true Russian. Ukrainians are people. People who want to be free of Russian tyranny. People who want to determine their own fate.

It's a concept that Russians serving their government wouldn't understand. They're just slaves, for all intents and purposes.

DP and I am Ukrainian. I totally support PP and a lot of Ukrainians sick and tired of this ongoing money laundering. Everyone in Ukraine knows the war will stop as soon as Americans will stop pumping money into it.

What part of Ukraine? Russian or Ukrainian speaking?

Are you prepared to become a Russian satellite town? And to get thrown in jail for disagreeing with Putin?

lol so you don't think there are people in jail today for disagreeing with Zelensky?

There are. Or in exile. You cannot disagree with Ermak's regime without been called pro-Putin. Even on this board a slightest concern about Zelenskiy's policies results in Vlad name calling.

Citation Vlad - and Russian state media is not credible .

Zelensky has public support ratings that most democratically elected presidents can only dream of.

That said, I hope he retires soon after the war ends. Power corrupts which is why US has two term limit.

Vlad, you cannot read Ukrainian? It is just slightly different than Russian.

https://suspilne.media/526537-vaks-prodovziv-termin-utrimanna-pid-vartou-eksgolovi-verhovnogo-sudu-knazevu/

https://www.slovoidilo.ua/2023/12/08/novyna/polityka/pidozryuvanyj-suddya-kyyivskoho-apelyaczijnoho-sudu-vyjshov-z-pid-varty

Good that Ukraine continues to root out corruption. They are leaving Russia far behind. Sadly Russia does absolutely nothing about its own corruption and in fact gets worse by the day, with Putin as chief corrupt oligarch and thief-in-charge.

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Anonymous wrote:Hard working Americans that lay sheet rock today, frame homes, and roof, should not have to pay taxes to support a war effort that wealthy Ukranians turn their back on.

Ukraine is a not a country is a former province with a gas station.

Spoken like a true Russian. Ukrainians are people. People who want to be free of Russian tyranny. People who want to determine their own fate.

It's a concept that Russians serving their government wouldn't understand. They're just slaves, for all intents and purposes.

DP and I am Ukrainian. I totally support PP and a lot of Ukrainians sick and tired of this ongoing money laundering. Everyone in Ukraine knows the war will stop as soon as Americans will stop pumping money into it.

What part of Ukraine? Russian or Ukrainian speaking?

Are you prepared to become a Russian satellite town? And to get thrown in jail for disagreeing with Putin?

lol so you don't think there are people in jail today for disagreeing with Zelensky?

Most likely they were not arrested for "disagreeing with Zelensky" but for something very different. Gonzalo Lira for example was arrested for giving away Ukrainian troop positions to Russia but dishonest propagandists lied about that and claimed it was merely because he didn't agree with Zelenskyy. And by the way, spelling it "Zelensky" is a giveaway - that's how Russians write it. They are sloppy propagandists.

You are incorrect. Zelenskiy's family is from Donbass area and Zelenskiy is not a Ukrainian last name. He tries to look more Ukrainian by substituting "I" sound by "y", but it does not make him more Ukrainian unfortunately. His first foreign passport spelling was Zelenskiy.

What else does your file say?

A lot. And yours?

The Kremlin chatbot files just keep churning more and more dumb garbage out...

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Anonymous wrote:Hard working Americans that lay sheet rock today, frame homes, and roof, should not have to pay taxes to support a war effort that wealthy Ukranians turn their back on.

Ukraine is a not a country is a former province with a gas station.

Spoken like a true Russian. Ukrainians are people. People who want to be free of Russian tyranny. People who want to determine their own fate.

It's a concept that Russians serving their government wouldn't understand. They're just slaves, for all intents and purposes.

DP and I am Ukrainian. I totally support PP and a lot of Ukrainians sick and tired of this ongoing money laundering. Everyone in Ukraine knows the war will stop as soon as Americans will stop pumping money into it.

What part of Ukraine? Russian or Ukrainian speaking?

Are you prepared to become a Russian satellite town? And to get thrown in jail for disagreeing with Putin?

lol so you don't think there are people in jail today for disagreeing with Zelensky?

Most likely they were not arrested for "disagreeing with Zelensky" but for something very different. Gonzalo Lira for example was arrested for giving away Ukrainian troop positions to Russia but dishonest propagandists lied about that and claimed it was merely because he didn't agree with Zelenskyy. And by the way, spelling it "Zelensky" is a giveaway - that's how Russians write it. They are sloppy propagandists.

You are incorrect. Zelenskiy's family is from Donbass area and Zelenskiy is not a Ukrainian last name. He tries to look more Ukrainian by substituting "I" sound by "y", but it does not make him more Ukrainian unfortunately. His first foreign passport spelling was Zelenskiy.

Lol look at you flailing and defensively trying to shift the goal posts away...

You were caught with the very Russian spelling of "Zelensky" but now you're falsely trying to pretend you were saying "Zelenskiy" which is more consistent with Ukrainian and Belarussian spelling - and even there you are wrong and your attempts at attributing it to being a Donbas thing or trying to suggest he wants to sound more Ukrainian is a swing and a miss. His family is Jewish, and like many Jews living in Slavic lands, they adapted the Slavic word for their Ashkenazi family name, in Zelenskyy's case that being Grün (green).

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Anonymous wrote:Hard working Americans that lay sheet rock today, frame homes, and roof, should not have to pay taxes to support a war effort that wealthy Ukranians turn their back on.

Ukraine is a not a country is a former province with a gas station.

Spoken like a true Russian. Ukrainians are people. People who want to be free of Russian tyranny. People who want to determine their own fate.

It's a concept that Russians serving their government wouldn't understand. They're just slaves, for all intents and purposes.

DP and I am Ukrainian. I totally support PP and a lot of Ukrainians sick and tired of this ongoing money laundering. Everyone in Ukraine knows the war will stop as soon as Americans will stop pumping money into it.

What part of Ukraine? Russian or Ukrainian speaking?

Are you prepared to become a Russian satellite town? And to get thrown in jail for disagreeing with Putin?

lol so you don't think there are people in jail today for disagreeing with Zelensky?

Most likely they were not arrested for "disagreeing with Zelensky" but for something very different. Gonzalo Lira for example was arrested for giving away Ukrainian troop positions to Russia but dishonest propagandists lied about that and claimed it was merely because he didn't agree with Zelenskyy. And by the way, spelling it "Zelensky" is a giveaway - that's how Russians write it. They are sloppy propagandists.

You are incorrect. Zelenskiy's family is from Donbass area and Zelenskiy is not a Ukrainian last name. He tries to look more Ukrainian by substituting "I" sound by "y", but it does not make him more Ukrainian unfortunately. His first foreign passport spelling was Zelenskiy.

What else does your file say?

A lot. And yours?

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Anonymous wrote:Hard working Americans that lay sheet rock today, frame homes, and roof, should not have to pay taxes to support a war effort that wealthy Ukranians turn their back on.

Ukraine is a not a country is a former province with a gas station.

Spoken like a true Russian. Ukrainians are people. People who want to be free of Russian tyranny. People who want to determine their own fate.

It's a concept that Russians serving their government wouldn't understand. They're just slaves, for all intents and purposes.

DP and I am Ukrainian. I totally support PP and a lot of Ukrainians sick and tired of this ongoing money laundering. Everyone in Ukraine knows the war will stop as soon as Americans will stop pumping money into it.

What part of Ukraine? Russian or Ukrainian speaking?

Are you prepared to become a Russian satellite town? And to get thrown in jail for disagreeing with Putin?

lol so you don't think there are people in jail today for disagreeing with Zelensky?

Wel Vlad / Putin is in his own league for locking dissenters away and murdering any potential rivals. Also Ukraine is trying to move towards being part of EU and a liberal democracy with checks and balances.
Putin is not only moving Russia further and further into an autocratic power vacuum but spending billions to undermine Western democracies so that Russia can dominate the global stage. He has no morals or concern for basic human decency let alone tolerance for diversity of opinion.

Let's pretend that three constitution court judges were not caught with $30k bribe two weeks ago. That is the way Ukraine does their check and balances.

Citation please.

I said they are trying to move in that direction. Clearly it will take time. Given they are in middle of Russia’s unnecessary war that has placed unbelievable strain on their formal judicial, Government, business and all systems, it is not surprising there are bribes.

Putin and his protege Trump play by the same hand book - commit crimes to get what they want and accuse everyone else of doing what they do as if that makes it OK.

Did you mean Biden? It is not Trump's family who is receiving kickbacks from all the money transfers to Ukraine.

It is not Biden’s either Vlad. And there are 90 felony counts and growing for Trump’s many criminal misdeeds.

There is a reason what Russian state media is lauding Trump and the Republicans .

Russian state media will say anything to continue bribing Bidens. I would not pay much attention to what Russian state media say.

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Anonymous wrote:Hard working Americans that lay sheet rock today, frame homes, and roof, should not have to pay taxes to support a war effort that wealthy Ukranians turn their back on.

Ukraine is a not a country is a former province with a gas station.

Spoken like a true Russian. Ukrainians are people. People who want to be free of Russian tyranny. People who want to determine their own fate.

It's a concept that Russians serving their government wouldn't understand. They're just slaves, for all intents and purposes.

DP and I am Ukrainian. I totally support PP and a lot of Ukrainians sick and tired of this ongoing money laundering. Everyone in Ukraine knows the war will stop as soon as Americans will stop pumping money into it.

What part of Ukraine? Russian or Ukrainian speaking?

Are you prepared to become a Russian satellite town? And to get thrown in jail for disagreeing with Putin?

lol so you don't think there are people in jail today for disagreeing with Zelensky?

Wel Vlad / Putin is in his own league for locking dissenters away and murdering any potential rivals. Also Ukraine is trying to move towards being part of EU and a liberal democracy with checks and balances.
Putin is not only moving Russia further and further into an autocratic power vacuum but spending billions to undermine Western democracies so that Russia can dominate the global stage. He has no morals or concern for basic human decency let alone tolerance for diversity of opinion.

Let's pretend that three constitution court judges were not caught with $30k bribe two weeks ago. That is the way Ukraine does their check and balances.

Citation please.

I said they are trying to move in that direction. Clearly it will take time. Given they are in middle of Russia’s unnecessary war that has placed unbelievable strain on their formal judicial, Government, business and all systems, it is not surprising there are bribes.

Putin and his protege Trump play by the same hand book - commit crimes to get what they want and accuse everyone else of doing what they do as if that makes it OK.

Did you mean Biden? It is not Trump's family who is receiving kickbacks from all the money transfers to Ukraine.

It is not Biden’s either Vlad. And there are 90 felony counts and growing for Trump’s many criminal misdeeds.

There is a reason what Russian state media is lauding Trump and the Republicans .

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Anonymous wrote:Hard working Americans that lay sheet rock today, frame homes, and roof, should not have to pay taxes to support a war effort that wealthy Ukranians turn their back on.

Ukraine is a not a country is a former province with a gas station.

Spoken like a true Russian. Ukrainians are people. People who want to be free of Russian tyranny. People who want to determine their own fate.

It's a concept that Russians serving their government wouldn't understand. They're just slaves, for all intents and purposes.

DP and I am Ukrainian. I totally support PP and a lot of Ukrainians sick and tired of this ongoing money laundering. Everyone in Ukraine knows the war will stop as soon as Americans will stop pumping money into it.

What part of Ukraine? Russian or Ukrainian speaking?

Are you prepared to become a Russian satellite town? And to get thrown in jail for disagreeing with Putin?

Majority of Eastern Ukraine and south is already Russian towns. It has been 9 years for Crimea, over 4 years for eastern part and almost 2 years for southern part. They had plenty time to prepare and to adjust.

You sound Russian referring to these occupied peoples as “they”

This is what happening in Ukraine now: the government shutting down any voices who are questioning this war and calling them Russians and pro-Putin.

Wow this will win them republicans support. They like that type of thing.

Unfortunately, as we in America have discovered, foreign countries (not just Russia) are able to artificially destabilize elections in favor of fringe elements. Certain members of congress in both the Republican and (let's be clear here) Democratic parties are subject to this influence.

I believe the FBI must obtain a FISA warrant monitoring Congressional contacts with foreign governments or agents. That assumes the person is a known foreign government official or agent, which is why countries like Russia are so keen on inserting as many "cultural" mission staff into the U.S.

If you want to reduce the number of election issues, I believe that it is necessary to eliminate as many Russian "consulates" in the US as possible. It should be a law that anytime a country "spies" or is caught influencing an election in the US that it's barred from anything but maintaining a minimal diplomatic staff of less than 100 personnel to support UN and Washington DC locations. All others (California, Texas, the New York facility outside NYC) should all be IMMEDIATELY shut down, imho.

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Anonymous wrote:Hard working Americans that lay sheet rock today, frame homes, and roof, should not have to pay taxes to support a war effort that wealthy Ukranians turn their back on.

Ukraine is a not a country is a former province with a gas station.

Spoken like a true Russian. Ukrainians are people. People who want to be free of Russian tyranny. People who want to determine their own fate.

It's a concept that Russians serving their government wouldn't understand. They're just slaves, for all intents and purposes.

DP and I am Ukrainian. I totally support PP and a lot of Ukrainians sick and tired of this ongoing money laundering. Everyone in Ukraine knows the war will stop as soon as Americans will stop pumping money into it.

What part of Ukraine? Russian or Ukrainian speaking?

Are you prepared to become a Russian satellite town? And to get thrown in jail for disagreeing with Putin?

Majority of Eastern Ukraine and south is already Russian towns. It has been 9 years for Crimea, over 4 years for eastern part and almost 2 years for southern part. They had plenty time to prepare and to adjust.

You sound Russian referring to these occupied peoples as “they”

This is what happening in Ukraine now: the government shutting down any voices who are questioning this war and calling them Russians and pro-Putin.

Wow this will win them republicans support. They like that type of thing.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hard working Americans that lay sheet rock today, frame homes, and roof, should not have to pay taxes to support a war effort that wealthy Ukranians turn their back on.

Ukraine is a not a country is a former province with a gas station.

Spoken like a true Russian. Ukrainians are people. People who want to be free of Russian tyranny. People who want to determine their own fate.

It's a concept that Russians serving their government wouldn't understand. They're just slaves, for all intents and purposes.

DP and I am Ukrainian. I totally support PP and a lot of Ukrainians sick and tired of this ongoing money laundering. Everyone in Ukraine knows the war will stop as soon as Americans will stop pumping money into it.

What part of Ukraine? Russian or Ukrainian speaking?

Are you prepared to become a Russian satellite town? And to get thrown in jail for disagreeing with Putin?

lol so you don't think there are people in jail today for disagreeing with Zelensky?

Most likely they were not arrested for "disagreeing with Zelensky" but for something very different. Gonzalo Lira for example was arrested for giving away Ukrainian troop positions to Russia but dishonest propagandists lied about that and claimed it was merely because he didn't agree with Zelenskyy. And by the way, spelling it "Zelensky" is a giveaway - that's how Russians write it. They are sloppy propagandists.

You are incorrect. Zelenskiy's family is from Donbass area and Zelenskiy is not a Ukrainian last name. He tries to look more Ukrainian by substituting "I" sound by "y", but it does not make him more Ukrainian unfortunately. His first foreign passport spelling was Zelenskiy.

What else does your file say?

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Anonymous wrote:Hard working Americans that lay sheet rock today, frame homes, and roof, should not have to pay taxes to support a war effort that wealthy Ukranians turn their back on.

Ukraine is a not a country is a former province with a gas station.

Spoken like a true Russian. Ukrainians are people. People who want to be free of Russian tyranny. People who want to determine their own fate.

It's a concept that Russians serving their government wouldn't understand. They're just slaves, for all intents and purposes.

DP and I am Ukrainian. I totally support PP and a lot of Ukrainians sick and tired of this ongoing money laundering. Everyone in Ukraine knows the war will stop as soon as Americans will stop pumping money into it.

What part of Ukraine? Russian or Ukrainian speaking?

Are you prepared to become a Russian satellite town? And to get thrown in jail for disagreeing with Putin?

lol so you don't think there are people in jail today for disagreeing with Zelensky?

Most likely they were not arrested for "disagreeing with Zelensky" but for something very different. Gonzalo Lira for example was arrested for giving away Ukrainian troop positions to Russia but dishonest propagandists lied about that and claimed it was merely because he didn't agree with Zelenskyy. And by the way, spelling it "Zelensky" is a giveaway - that's how Russians write it. They are sloppy propagandists.

You are incorrect. Zelenskiy's family is from Donbass area and Zelenskiy is not a Ukrainian last name. He tries to look more Ukrainian by substituting "I" sound by "y", but it does not make him more Ukrainian unfortunately. His first foreign passport spelling was Zelenskiy.

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Anonymous wrote:Hard working Americans that lay sheet rock today, frame homes, and roof, should not have to pay taxes to support a war effort that wealthy Ukranians turn their back on.

Ukraine is a not a country is a former province with a gas station.

Spoken like a true Russian. Ukrainians are people. People who want to be free of Russian tyranny. People who want to determine their own fate.

It's a concept that Russians serving their government wouldn't understand. They're just slaves, for all intents and purposes.

DP and I am Ukrainian. I totally support PP and a lot of Ukrainians sick and tired of this ongoing money laundering. Everyone in Ukraine knows the war will stop as soon as Americans will stop pumping money into it.

What part of Ukraine? Russian or Ukrainian speaking?

Are you prepared to become a Russian satellite town? And to get thrown in jail for disagreeing with Putin?

lol so you don't think there are people in jail today for disagreeing with Zelensky?

There are. Or in exile. You cannot disagree with Ermak's regime without been called pro-Putin. Even on this board a slightest concern about Zelenskiy's policies results in Vlad name calling.

Citation Vlad - and Russian state media is not credible .

Zelensky has public support ratings that most democratically elected presidents can only dream of.

That said, I hope he retires soon after the war ends. Power corrupts which is why US has two term limit.

Vlad, you cannot read Ukrainian? It is just slightly different than Russian.

https://suspilne.media/526537-vaks-prodovziv-termin-utrimanna-pid-vartou-eksgolovi-verhovnogo-sudu-knazevu/

https://www.slovoidilo.ua/2023/12/08/novyna/polityka/pidozryuvanyj-suddya-kyyivskoho-apelyaczijnoho-sudu-vyjshov-z-pid-varty

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Anonymous wrote:Hard working Americans that lay sheet rock today, frame homes, and roof, should not have to pay taxes to support a war effort that wealthy Ukranians turn their back on.

Ukraine is a not a country is a former province with a gas station.

Spoken like a true Russian. Ukrainians are people. People who want to be free of Russian tyranny. People who want to determine their own fate.

It's a concept that Russians serving their government wouldn't understand. They're just slaves, for all intents and purposes.

DP and I am Ukrainian. I totally support PP and a lot of Ukrainians sick and tired of this ongoing money laundering. Everyone in Ukraine knows the war will stop as soon as Americans will stop pumping money into it.

What part of Ukraine? Russian or Ukrainian speaking?

Are you prepared to become a Russian satellite town? And to get thrown in jail for disagreeing with Putin?

Majority of Eastern Ukraine and south is already Russian towns. It has been 9 years for Crimea, over 4 years for eastern part and almost 2 years for southern part. They had plenty time to prepare and to adjust.

You sound Russian referring to these occupied peoples as “they”

This is what happening in Ukraine now: the government shutting down any voices who are questioning this war and calling them Russians and pro-Putin.

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Anonymous wrote:Hard working Americans that lay sheet rock today, frame homes, and roof, should not have to pay taxes to support a war effort that wealthy Ukranians turn their back on.

Ukraine is a not a country is a former province with a gas station.

Spoken like a true Russian. Ukrainians are people. People who want to be free of Russian tyranny. People who want to determine their own fate.

It's a concept that Russians serving their government wouldn't understand. They're just slaves, for all intents and purposes.

DP and I am Ukrainian. I totally support PP and a lot of Ukrainians sick and tired of this ongoing money laundering. Everyone in Ukraine knows the war will stop as soon as Americans will stop pumping money into it.

What part of Ukraine? Russian or Ukrainian speaking?

Are you prepared to become a Russian satellite town? And to get thrown in jail for disagreeing with Putin?

lol so you don't think there are people in jail today for disagreeing with Zelensky?

Wel Vlad / Putin is in his own league for locking dissenters away and murdering any potential rivals. Also Ukraine is trying to move towards being part of EU and a liberal democracy with checks and balances.
Putin is not only moving Russia further and further into an autocratic power vacuum but spending billions to undermine Western democracies so that Russia can dominate the global stage. He has no morals or concern for basic human decency let alone tolerance for diversity of opinion.

Let's pretend that three constitution court judges were not caught with $30k bribe two weeks ago. That is the way Ukraine does their check and balances.

Citation please.

I said they are trying to move in that direction. Clearly it will take time. Given they are in middle of Russia’s unnecessary war that has placed unbelievable strain on their formal judicial, Government, business and all systems, it is not surprising there are bribes.

Putin and his protege Trump play by the same hand book - commit crimes to get what they want and accuse everyone else of doing what they do as if that makes it OK.

Did you mean Biden? It is not Trump's family who is receiving kickbacks from all the money transfers to Ukraine.