Looks like Germany may have to take on emergency debt to keep Ukraine funded:
https://www.rt.com/news/589016-germany-declare-emergency-ukraine-scholz/

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Anonymous wrote:Hard working Americans that lay sheet rock today, frame homes, and roof, should not have to pay taxes to support a war effort that wealthy Ukranians turn their back on.

Ukraine is a not a country is a former province with a gas station.

Spoken like a true Russian. Ukrainians are people. People who want to be free of Russian tyranny. People who want to determine their own fate.

It's a concept that Russians serving their government wouldn't understand. They're just slaves, for all intents and purposes.

DP and I am Ukrainian. I totally support PP and a lot of Ukrainians sick and tired of this ongoing money laundering. Everyone in Ukraine knows the war will stop as soon as Americans will stop pumping money into it.

What part of Ukraine? Russian or Ukrainian speaking?

Are you prepared to become a Russian satellite town? And to get thrown in jail for disagreeing with Putin?

Majority of Eastern Ukraine and south is already Russian towns. It has been 9 years for Crimea, over 4 years for eastern part and almost 2 years for southern part. They had plenty time to prepare and to adjust.

And yet the vast majority of Ukrainians support the war defense efforts and believe they should fight until they get Crimea back (see Pew research cited above). The vast majority of them do not want to be a satellite Russian outpost and see their language, culture and political future as not Russian. They do not appear to be either prepared or adjusted to this violent proposal

You sound dumb.
82% Russian. 10% Crimean Tatar. 3% Russian and Ukrainian equally.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org › wiki
Demographics of Crimea - Wikipedia

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Anonymous wrote:Hard working Americans that lay sheet rock today, frame homes, and roof, should not have to pay taxes to support a war effort that wealthy Ukranians turn their back on.

Ukraine is a not a country is a former province with a gas station.

Spoken like a true Russian. Ukrainians are people. People who want to be free of Russian tyranny. People who want to determine their own fate.

It's a concept that Russians serving their government wouldn't understand. They're just slaves, for all intents and purposes.

DP and I am Ukrainian. I totally support PP and a lot of Ukrainians sick and tired of this ongoing money laundering. Everyone in Ukraine knows the war will stop as soon as Americans will stop pumping money into it.

What part of Ukraine? Russian or Ukrainian speaking?

Are you prepared to become a Russian satellite town? And to get thrown in jail for disagreeing with Putin?

lol so you don't think there are people in jail today for disagreeing with Zelensky?

There are. Or in exile. You cannot disagree with Ermak's regime without been called pro-Putin. Even on this board a slightest concern about Zelenskiy's policies results in Vlad name calling.

Citation Vlad - and Russian state media is not credible .

Zelensky has public support ratings that most democratically elected presidents can only dream of.

That said, I hope he retires soon after the war ends. Power corrupts which is why US has two term limit.

Where does Arestovych live these days? Just one example.

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Anonymous wrote:Hard working Americans that lay sheet rock today, frame homes, and roof, should not have to pay taxes to support a war effort that wealthy Ukranians turn their back on.

Ukraine is a not a country is a former province with a gas station.

Spoken like a true Russian. Ukrainians are people. People who want to be free of Russian tyranny. People who want to determine their own fate.

It's a concept that Russians serving their government wouldn't understand. They're just slaves, for all intents and purposes.

DP and I am Ukrainian. I totally support PP and a lot of Ukrainians sick and tired of this ongoing money laundering. Everyone in Ukraine knows the war will stop as soon as Americans will stop pumping money into it.

What part of Ukraine? Russian or Ukrainian speaking?

Are you prepared to become a Russian satellite town? And to get thrown in jail for disagreeing with Putin?

lol so you don't think there are people in jail today for disagreeing with Zelensky?

There are. Or in exile. You cannot disagree with Ermak's regime without been called pro-Putin. Even on this board a slightest concern about Zelenskiy's policies results in Vlad name calling.

Citation Vlad - and Russian state media is not credible .

Zelensky has public support ratings that most democratically elected presidents can only dream of.

That said, I hope he retires soon after the war ends. Power corrupts which is why US has two term limit.

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Anonymous wrote:Hard working Americans that lay sheet rock today, frame homes, and roof, should not have to pay taxes to support a war effort that wealthy Ukranians turn their back on.

Ukraine is a not a country is a former province with a gas station.

Spoken like a true Russian. Ukrainians are people. People who want to be free of Russian tyranny. People who want to determine their own fate.

It's a concept that Russians serving their government wouldn't understand. They're just slaves, for all intents and purposes.

DP and I am Ukrainian. I totally support PP and a lot of Ukrainians sick and tired of this ongoing money laundering. Everyone in Ukraine knows the war will stop as soon as Americans will stop pumping money into it.

What part of Ukraine? Russian or Ukrainian speaking?

Are you prepared to become a Russian satellite town? And to get thrown in jail for disagreeing with Putin?

lol so you don't think there are people in jail today for disagreeing with Zelensky?

Wel Vlad / Putin is in his own league for locking dissenters away and murdering any potential rivals. Also Ukraine is trying to move towards being part of EU and a liberal democracy with checks and balances.
Putin is not only moving Russia further and further into an autocratic power vacuum but spending billions to undermine Western democracies so that Russia can dominate the global stage. He has no morals or concern for basic human decency let alone tolerance for diversity of opinion.

Let's pretend that three constitution court judges were not caught with $30k bribe two weeks ago. That is the way Ukraine does their check and balances.

Citation please.

I said they are trying to move in that direction. Clearly it will take time. Given they are in middle of Russia’s unnecessary war that has placed unbelievable strain on their formal judicial, Government, business and all systems, it is not surprising there are bribes.

Putin and his protege Trump play by the same hand book - commit crimes to get what they want and accuse everyone else of doing what they do as if that makes it OK.

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Anonymous wrote:Hard working Americans that lay sheet rock today, frame homes, and roof, should not have to pay taxes to support a war effort that wealthy Ukranians turn their back on.

Ukraine is a not a country is a former province with a gas station.

Spoken like a true Russian. Ukrainians are people. People who want to be free of Russian tyranny. People who want to determine their own fate.

It's a concept that Russians serving their government wouldn't understand. They're just slaves, for all intents and purposes.

DP and I am Ukrainian. I totally support PP and a lot of Ukrainians sick and tired of this ongoing money laundering. Everyone in Ukraine knows the war will stop as soon as Americans will stop pumping money into it.

What part of Ukraine? Russian or Ukrainian speaking?

Are you prepared to become a Russian satellite town? And to get thrown in jail for disagreeing with Putin?

lol so you don't think there are people in jail today for disagreeing with Zelensky?

Wel Vlad / Putin is in his own league for locking dissenters away and murdering any potential rivals. Also Ukraine is trying to move towards being part of EU and a liberal democracy with checks and balances.
Putin is not only moving Russia further and further into an autocratic power vacuum but spending billions to undermine Western democracies so that Russia can dominate the global stage. He has no morals or concern for basic human decency let alone tolerance for diversity of opinion.

Let's pretend that three constitution court judges were not caught with $30k bribe two weeks ago. That is the way Ukraine does their check and balances.

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Anonymous wrote:Hard working Americans that lay sheet rock today, frame homes, and roof, should not have to pay taxes to support a war effort that wealthy Ukranians turn their back on.

Ukraine is a not a country is a former province with a gas station.

Spoken like a true Russian. Ukrainians are people. People who want to be free of Russian tyranny. People who want to determine their own fate.

It's a concept that Russians serving their government wouldn't understand. They're just slaves, for all intents and purposes.

DP and I am Ukrainian. I totally support PP and a lot of Ukrainians sick and tired of this ongoing money laundering. Everyone in Ukraine knows the war will stop as soon as Americans will stop pumping money into it.

What part of Ukraine? Russian or Ukrainian speaking?

Are you prepared to become a Russian satellite town? And to get thrown in jail for disagreeing with Putin?

lol so you don't think there are people in jail today for disagreeing with Zelensky?

There are. Or in exile. You cannot disagree with Ermak's regime without been called pro-Putin. Even on this board a slightest concern about Zelenskiy's policies results in Vlad name calling.

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Anonymous wrote:Hard working Americans that lay sheet rock today, frame homes, and roof, should not have to pay taxes to support a war effort that wealthy Ukranians turn their back on.

Ukraine is a not a country is a former province with a gas station.

Spoken like a true Russian. Ukrainians are people. People who want to be free of Russian tyranny. People who want to determine their own fate.

It's a concept that Russians serving their government wouldn't understand. They're just slaves, for all intents and purposes.

DP and I am Ukrainian. I totally support PP and a lot of Ukrainians sick and tired of this ongoing money laundering. Everyone in Ukraine knows the war will stop as soon as Americans will stop pumping money into it.

What part of Ukraine? Russian or Ukrainian speaking?

Are you prepared to become a Russian satellite town? And to get thrown in jail for disagreeing with Putin?

lol so you don't think there are people in jail today for disagreeing with Zelensky?

Most likely they were not arrested for "disagreeing with Zelensky" but for something very different. Gonzalo Lira for example was arrested for giving away Ukrainian troop positions to Russia but dishonest propagandists lied about that and claimed it was merely because he didn't agree with Zelenskyy. And by the way, spelling it "Zelensky" is a giveaway - that's how Russians write it. They are sloppy propagandists.

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Anonymous wrote:Hard working Americans that lay sheet rock today, frame homes, and roof, should not have to pay taxes to support a war effort that wealthy Ukranians turn their back on.

Ukraine is a not a country is a former province with a gas station.

Spoken like a true Russian. Ukrainians are people. People who want to be free of Russian tyranny. People who want to determine their own fate.

It's a concept that Russians serving their government wouldn't understand. They're just slaves, for all intents and purposes.

DP and I am Ukrainian. I totally support PP and a lot of Ukrainians sick and tired of this ongoing money laundering. Everyone in Ukraine knows the war will stop as soon as Americans will stop pumping money into it.

What part of Ukraine? Russian or Ukrainian speaking?

Are you prepared to become a Russian satellite town? And to get thrown in jail for disagreeing with Putin?

lol so you don't think there are people in jail today for disagreeing with Zelensky?

*cough*NAVALNY*cough*

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Anonymous wrote:Hard working Americans that lay sheet rock today, frame homes, and roof, should not have to pay taxes to support a war effort that wealthy Ukranians turn their back on.

Ukraine is a not a country is a former province with a gas station.

Spoken like a true Russian. Ukrainians are people. People who want to be free of Russian tyranny. People who want to determine their own fate.

It's a concept that Russians serving their government wouldn't understand. They're just slaves, for all intents and purposes.

DP and I am Ukrainian. I totally support PP and a lot of Ukrainians sick and tired of this ongoing money laundering. Everyone in Ukraine knows the war will stop as soon as Americans will stop pumping money into it.

What part of Ukraine? Russian or Ukrainian speaking?

Are you prepared to become a Russian satellite town? And to get thrown in jail for disagreeing with Putin?

Majority of Eastern Ukraine and south is already Russian towns. It has been 9 years for Crimea, over 4 years for eastern part and almost 2 years for southern part. They had plenty time to prepare and to adjust.

They are squatters, tens of thousands of opportunistic and greedy Russians living in the homes of the people their invasion and war displaced.

Russia had a population of 144 million, 2/3rds of which were in the 15-64 age range (conscript-able/workforce age), of approximately 96M. Russia has about 26M children ages 0 to 15 and 24.5M (17%) are 65+. There are 42M pensioners in Russia. Assuming all elderly are pensioners, that means there are about 17.5M pensioners within the workforce/conscript-able range that need to be removed from the 96M, leaving 78.5M. Approximately half are women (generally non-conscript-able), leaving about 39M conscript-able / workforce males. In 2022, about 37M men (and 35M women) worked in Russia. That means 11M men weren't in the workforce. That somewhat jives with the Central Bank's assertion that Russia has record low unemployment of 3%, once you take out ~2% for those in jail, mental institutions, those that fled the country, etc.

If Ukrainian casualty reports are accurate (e.g. ~380K), that is about 1% (1 out of every 100 working / conscriptable males in Russia).

Think about this a moment. 1% of income-earning males in Russia are gone. That productivity, their offspring, the income for family and relatives - poof. That 1% loss doesn't represent Russian military combat effectiveness loss, it represents the overall productivity loss of the country itself. Now multiply this by x10 of the lives they affected (approximately 3.8 million friends, children, wives or other relatives, or 3% of Russia effected by trauma, shock, horror, etc.). Russia has a land area of 6.6M sq miles. That means Russia has a population density of about 22 people per square mile. That's about the same population density as Idaho (and makes Nevada or Nebraska seem buff by comparison).

What if half of all US Idaho state residents had to pay for pensions for the other half of Idaho's population. If you took away 1% of that 50% of working/conscript-able males to occupy, say New Hampshire, how would Idaho do? What if they couldn't control New Hampshire and took 2% of Idaho's males? For Russia to 'win' militarily in Ukraine, that's exactly what has to happen. Additionally, they would have to do that for a long period of time (training troops, fighting in the war, etc.).

To show how truly stupid Kremlin planners are, New Hampshire is about 9,350 sq mi with the same population density of Ukraine. Ukraine is about 233,062 sq mi, or about 25 "New Hampshire's big". If the Kremlin doesn't have the troops to 'win' now, after Putin's re-election in March, it will be clear that full mobilization will be necessary to militarily 'win' in Ukraine. It also means those troops would need to indefinitely occupy Ukraine, since the majority of Ukrainians would never accept Russian rule again. The only way to quickly disengage a massive Russian occupation force would be to commit mass genocide of the local Ukrainian population or use nuclear weapons. The Ukrainians know this, which is why they'll never surrender - even if they receive no exernal aid from the West.

Win or lose militarily, I think Russia is doomed. Any Russian supporting the Russian Government right now is a total fool.

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Anonymous wrote:Hard working Americans that lay sheet rock today, frame homes, and roof, should not have to pay taxes to support a war effort that wealthy Ukranians turn their back on.

Ukraine is a not a country is a former province with a gas station.

Spoken like a true Russian. Ukrainians are people. People who want to be free of Russian tyranny. People who want to determine their own fate.

It's a concept that Russians serving their government wouldn't understand. They're just slaves, for all intents and purposes.

DP and I am Ukrainian. I totally support PP and a lot of Ukrainians sick and tired of this ongoing money laundering. Everyone in Ukraine knows the war will stop as soon as Americans will stop pumping money into it.

What part of Ukraine? Russian or Ukrainian speaking?

Are you prepared to become a Russian satellite town? And to get thrown in jail for disagreeing with Putin?

Majority of Eastern Ukraine and south is already Russian towns. It has been 9 years for Crimea, over 4 years for eastern part and almost 2 years for southern part. They had plenty time to prepare and to adjust.

Sure it is, when you offer bargain basement prices on other people's houses.
https://news.yahoo.com/800-000-russian-citizens-illegally-035858422.html

This is how Russians do things. They kill off or force move people then steal their homes. For Russians living in poverty it's a great deal. It's like getting Public Housing close to one of the handful of "warmer beach resort areas" near Russia.

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Anonymous wrote:Hard working Americans that lay sheet rock today, frame homes, and roof, should not have to pay taxes to support a war effort that wealthy Ukranians turn their back on.

Ukraine is a not a country is a former province with a gas station.

Spoken like a true Russian. Ukrainians are people. People who want to be free of Russian tyranny. People who want to determine their own fate.

It's a concept that Russians serving their government wouldn't understand. They're just slaves, for all intents and purposes.

DP and I am Ukrainian. I totally support PP and a lot of Ukrainians sick and tired of this ongoing money laundering. Everyone in Ukraine knows the war will stop as soon as Americans will stop pumping money into it.

What part of Ukraine? Russian or Ukrainian speaking?

Are you prepared to become a Russian satellite town? And to get thrown in jail for disagreeing with Putin?

lol so you don't think there are people in jail today for disagreeing with Zelensky?

Wel Vlad / Putin is in his own league for locking dissenters away and murdering any potential rivals. Also Ukraine is trying to move towards being part of EU and a liberal democracy with checks and balances.
Putin is not only moving Russia further and further into an autocratic power vacuum but spending billions to undermine Western democracies so that Russia can dominate the global stage. He has no morals or concern for basic human decency let alone tolerance for diversity of opinion.

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Anonymous wrote:Hard working Americans that lay sheet rock today, frame homes, and roof, should not have to pay taxes to support a war effort that wealthy Ukranians turn their back on.

Ukraine is a not a country is a former province with a gas station.

Spoken like a true Russian. Ukrainians are people. People who want to be free of Russian tyranny. People who want to determine their own fate.

It's a concept that Russians serving their government wouldn't understand. They're just slaves, for all intents and purposes.

DP and I am Ukrainian. I totally support PP and a lot of Ukrainians sick and tired of this ongoing money laundering. Everyone in Ukraine knows the war will stop as soon as Americans will stop pumping money into it.

What part of Ukraine? Russian or Ukrainian speaking?

Are you prepared to become a Russian satellite town? And to get thrown in jail for disagreeing with Putin?

lol so you don't think there are people in jail today for disagreeing with Zelensky?

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Anonymous wrote:Hard working Americans that lay sheet rock today, frame homes, and roof, should not have to pay taxes to support a war effort that wealthy Ukranians turn their back on.

Ukraine is a not a country is a former province with a gas station.

Spoken like a true Russian. Ukrainians are people. People who want to be free of Russian tyranny. People who want to determine their own fate.

It's a concept that Russians serving their government wouldn't understand. They're just slaves, for all intents and purposes.

DP and I am Ukrainian. I totally support PP and a lot of Ukrainians sick and tired of this ongoing money laundering. Everyone in Ukraine knows the war will stop as soon as Americans will stop pumping money into it.

What part of Ukraine? Russian or Ukrainian speaking?

Are you prepared to become a Russian satellite town? And to get thrown in jail for disagreeing with Putin?

Majority of Eastern Ukraine and south is already Russian towns. It has been 9 years for Crimea, over 4 years for eastern part and almost 2 years for southern part. They had plenty time to prepare and to adjust.

And yet the vast majority of Ukrainians support the war defense efforts and believe they should fight until they get Crimea back (see Pew research cited above). The vast majority of them do not want to be a satellite Russian outpost and see their language, culture and political future as not Russian. They do not appear to be either prepared or adjusted to this violent proposal