Anonymous
Post 08/30/2025 00:42     Subject: Re:Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift engaged!
I used to love Taylor Swift and wish I could be happy for her engagement, but…..

What stands out to me in this moment is Taylor’s silence. In the Miss Americana documentary, she was politically outspoken and willing to risk her brand by speaking about women’s rights and elections. But now, through ICE raids, the rollback of reproductive rights, an increase in gun violence, devastating conflicts in the Middle East and so on, she has been strategically quiet. Instead, she spent airtime talking about bread recipes rather than the issues she once championed.

Her choices seem calculated, and everything feels like a business transaction. Even her engagement, rolled out in Ralph Lauren, timed perfectly before her album release and the NFL season, reads like a campaign rather than a personal milestone. The NFL itself, heavily conservative, benefits from her association just as her brand benefits from the sport’s audience.

Hovering over it all is the political undertone: Trump’s positive remarks on her engagement, the careful neutrality being crafted between her, the White House, and her fanbase. It reads like the story of a woman who traded her once-powerful voice for commercial safety.
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2025 22:12     Subject: Re:Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift engaged!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He's legit ugly af.



Neither of these men is Travis Kelce, you moron.


Man, no. But the young man on the L is a teen Travis Kelce indeed.
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2025 21:05     Subject: Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift engaged!
I'm getting a good giggle out of reading the unhinged hate posts here and have to wonder if the uber-critics of Taylor Swift apply their same "standards" to someone like Beyonce.
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2025 20:58     Subject: Re:Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift engaged!
Anonymous wrote:He's legit ugly af.



Neither of these men is Travis Kelce, you moron.
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2025 20:54     Subject: Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift engaged!
Anonymous wrote:She needs to put hurt feelings aside and be there for her godchildren.


Anonymous
Post 08/29/2025 20:53     Subject: Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift engaged!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She created another album while being on an exhausting sold out tour. Say what you want, but she’s a bad ass


In other words, ghostwriters, musicians, and producers created another album and she gets to stamp her name on it.


DP. Still peddling the fiction that she doesn't write and create her own music? She does. Of course her producers help arrange it, etc. But she writes the lyrics and melody. And if she has collaborators, they're ALWAYS credited.
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2025 20:52     Subject: Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift engaged!
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Anonymous wrote:Imagine my "shock" when my boyfriend gave me this ring I picked out and the photographer I hired filmed it. *Make shocked face*


While both of us were wearing summer/fall 2025 Ralph Lauren. And we released the footage, with a 'teachers' caption, the day before my boyfriend's American Eagle 'back to school' ad.

Americans are hopelessly gullible.


You’re gullible if you believe they didn’t have a private engagement before this. He didn’t just roll up with that ring, this was made for mass consumption and more likely than not wasn’t even the real proposal. But, why are you so mad about it? This is what they do.


So it was fake but it was fake for the fans? Why? To milk fans and make money? But I thought they were both so rich, they don't have to fake or do anything for money? These are two soulless, scheming, money-grubbing celebs. I think both of them have sold their souls and are so far gone they don't know what is real, what is fake. Their life is a simulation at this point.


I agree, but I would also say that this is all Taylor has ever known. This is why she was exploited. Her entire tween and teen years were sold to her fans by her parents. If you have ever read that email her dad sent that was written when she was like 12 or so. He basically said he worked so hard to make her famous and (and he didn’t know what her talent was yet), but that she would be famous for SOMETHING (acting, modeling, etc). And that he crafted her own web site at age 12 to generate fans etc. Couple that with her Mom setting up secret parties with fans so Taylor could “see what teenage life was like” and you have a girlhood exploited.

She is like Truman in the Truman Show and she doesn’t even know it.


Definitely her childhood was different. She was being primed for stardom but it’s hard for me to see this as a bad thing. I remember when Britney was coming up it was before social media, but her mom had this blog which was like a journal, capturing all of B’s travel and tours and her life. It seemed very happy and wonderful. But we started seeing cracks pretty early.

Taylor is pretty far into this life and I’m not seeing those cracks. She truly seems to love her craft and I can’t imagine how amazing it would be to just be able to write songs that people can’t wait to listen to and watch performed in concert. She just came off a tour of what 149 concerts… That the fans went wild over… And that she seemed to clearly enjoy doing and it takes a lot of stamina and hard work and heart to put out. That wasn’t fake or manufactured.

I’m not saying a lot of the marketing is not, well marketing, but painting this picture as if she is some puppet doesn’t really work anymore. I’m sure her parents did a lot in the beginning, but she now really has agency over her life and career and she seems well adjusted, stable and dare I say happy.

I guess I don’t see where you can criticize her parents. I think if we end up with 35-year-olds who seem this happy and well adjusted we’d be happy as parents.



Well said. She is level-headed and grounded, no doubt thanks to her stable upbringing and loving parents. Some people just can't stand to admit that for whatever reason.
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2025 19:37     Subject: Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift engaged!
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Anonymous wrote:It’s funny that some people think they just cracked the code on how money is made. Oh no she made money by sitting at an NFL game! She made money wearing clothes at her engagement! She’s selling tshirts and making money! She had a concert and made money on tickets and merchandise! It’s almost like wherever Taylor goes she makes money. What a shock.


??? So we all agree that she makes money showing up at NFL games and when she is I. The public eye- great! I’m cool with that.


It doesn’t matter where Taylor goes. As long as she stays in the public eye and makes appearances once in awhile. She is the product.

I'm not a TS fan, but her showing up at Chiefs games made me interested in watching football. The nfl should pay her because she increases ratings.


It is mutually beneficial- for the NFL and Taylor. The money flows both directions but anyway you look at it. It is flowing from us to much richer people.
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2025 19:33     Subject: Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift engaged!
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:It’s funny that some people think they just cracked the code on how money is made. Oh no she made money by sitting at an NFL game! She made money wearing clothes at her engagement! She’s selling tshirts and making money! She had a concert and made money on tickets and merchandise! It’s almost like wherever Taylor goes she makes money. What a shock.


??? So we all agree that she makes money showing up at NFL games and when she is I. The public eye- great! I’m cool with that.


It doesn’t matter where Taylor goes. As long as she stays in the public eye and makes appearances once in awhile. She is the product.


Well yes and no. She is the product. But It would follow that the bigger and more diverse the audience the more money she would pull. So a national
TV setting pulling in old fans (swifties) and new ones (nfl families and men) would give her a bigger platform and even more money than just insta.
Men aren’t buying her merchandise


I think the bakeries made more money off the NFL association by selling all those “Go Taylor’s Boyfriend” cakes last year. But as long as the NFL isn’t selling a Taylor Swift jersey men and NFL fans aren’t buying more it’s just the usual fans who follow her wherever she goes.
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2025 19:33     Subject: Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift engaged!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s funny that some people think they just cracked the code on how money is made. Oh no she made money by sitting at an NFL game! She made money wearing clothes at her engagement! She’s selling tshirts and making money! She had a concert and made money on tickets and merchandise! It’s almost like wherever Taylor goes she makes money. What a shock.


??? So we all agree that she makes money showing up at NFL games and when she is I. The public eye- great! I’m cool with that.


It doesn’t matter where Taylor goes. As long as she stays in the public eye and makes appearances once in awhile. She is the product.

I'm not a TS fan, but her showing up at Chiefs games made me interested in watching football. The nfl should pay her because she increases ratings.
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2025 19:29     Subject: Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift engaged!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s funny that some people think they just cracked the code on how money is made. Oh no she made money by sitting at an NFL game! She made money wearing clothes at her engagement! She’s selling tshirts and making money! She had a concert and made money on tickets and merchandise! It’s almost like wherever Taylor goes she makes money. What a shock.


??? So we all agree that she makes money showing up at NFL games and when she is I. The public eye- great! I’m cool with that.


It doesn’t matter where Taylor goes. As long as she stays in the public eye and makes appearances once in awhile. She is the product.


Well yes and no. She is the product. But It would follow that the bigger and more diverse the audience the more money she would pull. So a national
TV setting pulling in old fans (swifties) and new ones (nfl families and men) would give her a bigger platform and even more money than just insta.
Men aren’t buying her merchandise
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2025 19:21     Subject: Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift engaged!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s funny that some people think they just cracked the code on how money is made. Oh no she made money by sitting at an NFL game! She made money wearing clothes at her engagement! She’s selling tshirts and making money! She had a concert and made money on tickets and merchandise! It’s almost like wherever Taylor goes she makes money. What a shock.


??? So we all agree that she makes money showing up at NFL games and when she is I. The public eye- great! I’m cool with that.


It doesn’t matter where Taylor goes. As long as she stays in the public eye and makes appearances once in awhile. She is the product.


Well yes and no. She is the product. But It would follow that the bigger and more diverse the audience the more money she would pull. So a national
TV setting pulling in old fans (swifties) and new ones (nfl families and men) would give her a bigger platform and even more money than just insta.
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2025 19:07     Subject: Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift engaged!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s funny that some people think they just cracked the code on how money is made. Oh no she made money by sitting at an NFL game! She made money wearing clothes at her engagement! She’s selling tshirts and making money! She had a concert and made money on tickets and merchandise! It’s almost like wherever Taylor goes she makes money. What a shock.


??? So we all agree that she makes money showing up at NFL games and when she is I. The public eye- great! I’m cool with that.


It doesn’t matter where Taylor goes. As long as she stays in the public eye and makes appearances once in awhile. She is the product.
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2025 19:02     Subject: Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift engaged!
Anonymous wrote:It’s funny that some people think they just cracked the code on how money is made. Oh no she made money by sitting at an NFL game! She made money wearing clothes at her engagement! She’s selling tshirts and making money! She had a concert and made money on tickets and merchandise! It’s almost like wherever Taylor goes she makes money. What a shock.


??? So we all agree that she makes money showing up at NFL games and when she is I. The public eye- great! I’m cool with that.
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2025 18:58     Subject: Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift engaged!
It’s funny that some people think they just cracked the code on how money is made. Oh no she made money by sitting at an NFL game! She made money wearing clothes at her engagement! She’s selling tshirts and making money! She had a concert and made money on tickets and merchandise! It’s almost like wherever Taylor goes she makes money. What a shock.